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Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?!

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2012/06/17 10:00:39 (permalink)

Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?!

Just started a 12 week Sustanon 250 and Boldenone cycle, 2 doses of 2 x 1ml of each per week, just wondering is it worth introducing some arimidex or any other estrogen control tabs too prevent any form of gyno with this course?
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/17 11:12:35 (permalink)
    your better off with deca IMO 12 weeks of eq is not much; 16 weeks min
     
    how much mg of eq per ml ; 300? if so the dose is fine justs ideally needs to be run slightly longer
     
    to asnwer your orginal question just keep some nolvadex on hand and check yourself ED if you see/feel symptoms start taking the nolvadex
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/17 12:00:25 (permalink)
    Sust and deca is too much of a mass bulk plus the sides such as deca dick doesn't appeal too me lol.
     
    I'm after a lean bulk, which is why i've considered testing a sustanon and boldenone stack as i've seen peoples gains supposedly the boldenone counter acts the huge bloat of sust and creates a more vascular posture. The boldenone is 250mg per ml the Sust is a 250mg per ml too, I have actually considered extending the course too a 16 week, currently at week 2 atm
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/17 14:34:09 (permalink)
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    Sust and deca is too much of a mass bulk plus the sides such as deca dick doesn't appeal too me lol.

    I'm after a lean bulk, which is why i've considered testing a sustanon and boldenone stack as i've seen peoples gains supposedly the boldenone counter acts the huge bloat of sust and creates a more vascular posture. The boldenone is 250mg per ml the Sust is a 250mg per ml too, I have actually considered extending the course too a 16 week, currently at week 2 atm

     
    ahh kk,,, defo extend to 16 weeks also i thought the eq was at 300mg per week,,, i think you need to up the dose of the eq to 750 PW if you have enough
     
    i ran a 24 week course at 900 mg EQ with good results; many ppl will say 600mg PW is the sweet spot for eq
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/17 14:44:07 (permalink)
    I have run eq at 600pwk an 900 pwk and didn't notice any difference from both courses gained not much mass and was very slow don't think I will use eq again! But you should make your course that little longer 16 weeks at least

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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/17 15:01:39 (permalink)
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    I have run eq at 600pwk an 900 pwk and didn't notice any difference from both courses gained not much mass and was very slow don't think I will use eq again! But you should make your course that little longer 16 weeks at least

     
    cut or bulk ; what did you stack it with , test?
     
     
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 07:49:44 (permalink)
    They were both bulk and the first was with sus the second was with test e

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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 10:06:40 (permalink)
    I wouldn't bother with an AI mate, only need Nolvadex if gyno did become an issue which is fairly unlikely.
     
    You do not NEED to run EQ for 16 weeks to be effective, it is fine as planned. I have run 6 week courses with good results and there is no reason why they wouldn't be either.
     
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 11:59:51 (permalink)
    Boldenone has a Undeclynate ester tho unless your using a shorter estered version?

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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 12:25:18 (permalink)
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    Boldenone has a Undeclynate ester tho unless your using a shorter estered version?

    Yes so it is slow releasing but not that slow that it needs to be run for longer than 12 weeks?
     
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 12:50:43 (permalink)
    Depending on how your body takes the stuff then maybe 12 weeks will be enough from my experience I was dissapointed at the end of a 16 week cycle

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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 15:41:09 (permalink)
    The Undecylenate ester will still acheive peak blood levels in around 4 to 5 weeks assuming straight dosing, so doesn't take much longer to peak than Enanthate or Cypionate etc.
     
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 21:42:34 (permalink)
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    The Undecylenate ester will still acheive peak blood levels in around 4 to 5 weeks assuming straight dosing, so doesn't take much longer to peak than Enanthate or Cypionate etc.

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    yes but why stop a course when the steroid you are injecting has only just kicked in
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 22:02:10 (permalink)
    Yeah i am on the Undecylenate Ester, Pharma Grade 250mg per 1ml twice a week with 1ml Sustanon 250 Pharma Grade in the same barrell, I will most probababley run it for 12 weeks depending on how great the gains are, Cheers Big fella always got great advice!
     
    I have Tamoxifen ready to rumble incase of emergencys whilst on course IF Gyno does occur, shall i run 20mg a day throughout the course?
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/18 23:12:31 (permalink)
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    Yeah i am on the Undecylenate Ester, Pharma Grade 250mg per 1ml twice a week with 1ml Sustanon 250 Pharma Grade in the same barrell, I will most probababley run it for 12 weeks depending on how great the gains are, Cheers Big fella always got great advice!

    I have Tamoxifen ready to rumble incase of emergencys whilst on course IF Gyno does occur, shall i run 20mg a day throughout the course?

     
    no just keep on hand just incase
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/19 04:51:49 (permalink)
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    I wouldn't bother with an AI mate, only need Nolvadex if gyno did become an issue which is fairly unlikely.

    You do not NEED to run EQ for 16 weeks to be effective, it is fine as planned. I have run 6 week courses with good results and there is no reason why they wouldn't be either.

    Bigfella.

     
    This is one of the few times I've seen anyone say you can go below 12 weeks for EQ, so thanks for that Bigfella . I plan to run it soon with Test E for about 12-14 weeks, but everyone keeps saying it doesn't "kick in" until week 10 and some say to run it upwards of 20 weeks. If Deca has a similarly long half life, then why do some people run Deca for 8 weeks with good results...would it not be the same for EQ? (Maybe the effects are so mild people just assume it isn't doing anything?)
     
    If anyone else wants to chime in on this, feel free

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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/19 04:53:36 (permalink)
    Lightweight123

    Just started a 12 week Sustanon 250 and Boldenone cycle, 2 doses of 2 x 1ml of each per week, just wondering is it worth introducing some arimidex or any other estrogen control tabs too prevent any form of gyno with this course?

    If you're very susceptible to gyno then it's great to have arimidex on hand for 0.5mg EOD until soreness subsides. Otherwise the nolva is fine, as pointed out earlier

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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/19 07:04:17 (permalink)
    Night hawk people will run deca for a shorter time and have good results for 1 the deconate ester is shorter and 2 gains off deca are much more rapid u can't really compare deca to eq because results off both steroids are very different!

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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/19 07:36:46 (permalink)
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    Bigfella

    The Undecylenate ester will still acheive peak blood levels in around 4 to 5 weeks assuming straight dosing, so doesn't take much longer to peak than Enanthate or Cypionate etc.

    Bigfella.


    yes but why stop a course when the steroid you are injecting has only just kicked in

    How has it just kicked in? The steroid begins releasing from the very first injection and is working and active from that moment on, if the correct dose is run gains are seen quickly (this is what many get wrong with EQ). The ester involved is not that much slower releasing then Cypionate etc so there is absolutely no need to run it for 4 months to get good results, remember as it is slow to peak, it is also slow to leave so stays active for a good length of time. Long cycles equal diminishing returns as the body attempts to achieve homeostasis so are not productive at all, better to get the dose right and keep cycles to a shorter length for maximum results.
     
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    Re:Sustanon 250 & Boldenone Cycle Any need for estrogen control?! 2012/06/19 20:28:44 (permalink)
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    TheMagicBoy

    Bigfella

    The Undecylenate ester will still acheive peak blood levels in around 4 to 5 weeks assuming straight dosing, so doesn't take much longer to peak than Enanthate or Cypionate etc.

    Bigfella.


    yes but why stop a course when the steroid you are injecting has only just kicked in

    How has it just kicked in? The steroid begins releasing from the very first injection and is working and active from that moment on, if the correct dose is run gains are seen quickly (this is what many get wrong with EQ). The ester involved is not that much slower releasing then Cypionate etc so there is absolutely no need to run it for 4 months to get good results, remember as it is slow to peak, it is also slow to leave so stays active for a good length of time. Long cycles equal diminishing returns as the body attempts to achieve homeostasis so are not productive at all, better to get the dose right and keep cycles to a shorter length for maximum results.

    Bigfella.

     
    ok 
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