TESTP/HALOTESTIN/SUPER TREN 2000

hows this cycle look? my goal is to harden up and gain as much strength as possible. what kind of gains could i expect from this cycle if diet is clean and about 500cals over maintanence? 


 
weeks 1-6 100mg test porp
weeks 1-5 40mg halotestin ED (20mg for breaksfast and 20mg 1-2 hours pre workout)
weeks 1-4 0.5mg Super Tren 2000 (M-Tren) ED 1-2 hours pre workout
250I.U HCG intramusclar every 3 days up until one week before PCT
20mg accutane ED for 6 months to prevent acne
weeks 1-6 50mg proviron
  
 
cycle support by anabolic innovations throughtout entire cycle
LIV.52 throughout entire cycle
policosanol throughout enitre cycle (helping with colestrol)
 
 
PCT 6 weeks
 
Clomid and nolvadex tapering down the dose each week
ZMA every night and melatonin
CEL-TECH HARDCORE CREATINE
start using a good preworkout supplement again (depends on which one i decide to try)
Universal m-Stack Test booster
Universal animal PAK
Cellucor P6 test booster 
reduce xt for cortisol control
Post cycle support by anabolic innovations
 
I AM EXTREMLY STICK WITH MY DIET AND KNOW WHAT IM DOING IN THAT AREA... I DONT DRINK OR SMOKE AND WILL BE SLEEPING 8 HOURS A NIGHT AND EATING A SOLID 6 MEALS A DAY.
 
TRAINING WIL BE 4 DAYS A WEEK
 
MONDAYS & THURSDAYS - PUSH AND LEGS
TUESDAYS & fRIDAYS - PULL AND ABS
WEDNESDASY - OFF
SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS - OFF

by the way my stats are 235 pounds 12% bodyfat at 6ft 1inches
 

Why would you want to gain a load of strength and not the muscle first?
 
For me I don't care about my strength after all I'm wanting to gain muscle and I'm not weightlifting but bodybuilding.
 
Anyway you are going to damage your joints or do some other type of injury if you gain a load of strength without the frame to support it.
 
Strength should come with the muscle gains you make on a cycle.
 
Talk about OTT on what you have put down. First of all you don't add meds just incase you may get that side. You would only take meds when needed.
 
Have you used before? if so what? Have you used halo or methtren before? Have you really done some homework before coming up with this cycle?
 
Just click delete on all that crap you have put under PCT save your money and time and 6 weeks for PCT please you are over doing everything you put down.
 
Do you have acne? What's the proviron for?
 
The whole cycle sucks if i'm honest and I would just forget about what you have put down and do a nice test/dbol cycle which maybe the cycle you are looking for.
 
Training sucks also...

what the fuuu.....
 
seriously, just the useless suppliments you have listed under PCT must be adding up to a couple hundred quid.  its ridiculous.
 
the cycle is poor.  100mg test prop?  per what, per day, per week?? 
 
and i have no idea what you would want to combine those two orals, i mean if you were a power lifter or stongman then having the goals of adding strength would be obvious, and we could help with that, but your clearly not, because of that 'training routine'
 
im loath to even call it a training routine to be honest, its that poor, very poor.  full body routines, or push pull legs, etc etc i can get on borad with, but yours just makes no sense!
 
and im sorry to say mate, given your training programme, and what you have proposed with the cycle and all the other suppliments you think you need to run,  i find it highly unlikely that you really do have a good knowledge of diet, and know what your doing.
 
honestly, were not trying to shoot you down, but what you have proposed is ridiculous bud!  visit the training section, and get a decent routine sorted out,  and id also suggest the diet section too, just to check what your doing.  Try that for a couple of months, and in the meantime, read some of the articles and threads on here, and get a better understanding of steroids and PCT meds, and how it all works.

I respect if you guys think i have chosen the wrong cycle, but i think u arnt entirely correct in judging me like you have. the push pull routine has been my favourite routine for a while and i have tried a fair amount in the past since i havebeen trained for almost 6 years.

this is my 2nd cycle...my first cycle was a pro hormone called hdrol, i took it for 6 weeks and gained well about 20lbs and didn even use a serm in PCT (beacuse i couldnt get ahold of one), PCT was just test boosters, creatine, pre workout sups, lots of rest good diet and routine which what was responsible for me keeping  90% of my gains. (proving the fact that I do know how to train, eat and rest)

i then did some research during my time off gear and found out about PCT, ect.

i then waited about 2 months to do my next cycle after pct which what sust 750mg per week with dbol kick start and a tren a, test prop finish off.
 
ths cycle was about 16 week and i gain loads. i was ripped and had good muscle size density. i used HCG during this cycle aswell injecting in intra muscular.


pct consisted of clomid nolva, more pre workout supplements, creatine and high calorie diet. and i kept most of my gains beacuse i stayed motivated and trained and eated properly.... in fact i actually went up in weight but i think that was due to the higher calories i was eating in order to not lose any muscle. honestly guys i am not a useless idiot. i actually dnt look that much worse than wen i was on my last cycle, just a tiny lil more bodyfat i suppose.


in these two cycle i gained and kept loads of size/muscle but i wasnt as happy with strength gains thats why i opted for these compounds.

please guys dnt judge me like that i am planning on competein in a year or so time. just building the body that has potential in the meantime.


i want a short cycle that will help me gain strength and i wil research some routines to help achieve these results better. tust me i knw about diet dnt make me type out every lil gram of chicken, steak, fish, rice, potato, oatmeal, broccoli, nuts etc that i eat every day just trust me on this im not a newb... still have some learning to do but that why im still in the game. And I accept any positive criticisms coz there may well be thing im doing wrong.
 
 
Just please help me design a cycle, id lie to use halotestin and super tren 200 if that is ok. I do have a bit of acne and always have since puperty that’s why I added Accutane in there but I dnt hae to if it is too much for my liver along with these other two harsh compounds

Fair comments mate and didn't mean to have a go at you lol I was trying to watch UFC at that sh!tty time in the morning...
 
Why not just use tren and test together?
 
Using halo and methytren will be very hard on your body together mainly your liver. Halo is a hard drug anyway mate and it does sweet fa for gains and can be hit or miss for strength. Some people rate it some don't. It's really a pre con drug or for weightlifters.
 
If you are phone to acne them two meds could be a nightmare for you.
 
You can buy a product which is a mix of test prop, methytren and Mast - MTPM
maybe worth looking at if you really want to use methytren, a bit safer and great for a little 6 week cycle

sounds good but i used TREN ACETATE in my last cyce so i was kinda hoping to run some halo since it is soo good for strength . and right now i hunger strength increase!!! hehehe
 
lets say i dropped the accutane and the super tren...
 
testp 100mg ED
HALOTESTIN 40mg ED
DBOL 20MG everyday
arimidex 0.5mg E3D
 
im worried about liver here tho since both dbol and halo are liver straining... im happy enough to take loads of liver and organ supports, drink lots of water eat realy healthy (i do that anyway) its just hard to tell how damagin they realy would be....
 
what you think?
 
 

That's miles better but wouldn't run dbol and halo. Pick one and roll with that.
 
40mg of halo is high mate and I would take 20mg morning and 20mg about one hour before you workout.
 
You could add tren a if you wanted. If you are only doing the cycle for 6 weeks can't see why not.
 
Like you've said keep water intake high and add some LIV-52 and you'll be g2g

What about one rip?

2ml x 3 a week.

Add in halo or m tren pre workout if you wish, I personally couldnt manage both together, not because of my liver just purely because if I used both of those is probably end up chewing someone's face off for doing curls in the squat rack.

I'd rather add the dbol in post workout and eat a fvck load of food afterwards.

Yeah Sawdust that's what I was thinking
 
You can get a test prop, methytren and Mast - MTPM with halo or dbol could be the one.
 
Or like you said rip product and add the halo or methytren preworkout

good work fellows nice information

whos halo is it?

#Hench


whos halo is it?

 
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Cheers guys iv decided what to run so here goes. Please tell me what u think.

Money is not an issue so i will be running every single liver and kindey protectir you can think of for a long time even while off. Liv52, cycle support, extra milk thisthle extract, dandeloin root extract, artichoke extract, cranberry juice, lots of mineral water, boldo leaves extract, astratagus, etc


Sust 250 2ml per week
One rip 1 ml x3 per week for 6 weeks
Halotestin40mg ED for 4weeks
Super tren 2000 (m-tren) 1ml 90mins preworkout for 5 weeks
Dbol kick start
Anavar 50mg ED for 6 weeks
75mg proviron ED
10mg accutane for acne prevention


I'll stay on the test a lil longer after stoping everything else with the intention of tapering down my test levels to allow myself to adjust to training with the extra muscle n strength while having lower test levels before starting PCT to then go natrual.

 
1ml of the supertren is far too much.
 
try 0.25ml
 
It's certainly not for the faint hearted or unexperienced -
 
very potent stuff.. sides crept up on me fast and knocked my lipid values and liver values out after 2 weeks of use at 0.25ml ED.
 
 

Still think it's a lot for a 2nd cycle but would be interesting to see how you do so report back
 
Problem is If you've not used high anabolic androgenic roids before you could be in for a bumpy ride...
 
Good Luck

As per mick on the super tren, id recommend 0.5ml though, diving in at a ml might be too much too soon.

See how you get on with a lower dose.

Personally I think it looks like a kid in a sweet shop approach and is total overkill but I got giddy on my 2nd one too so can't lecture you on it.... You'll learn yourself ;)