Cheers Meat for you comments. I have taken body part measurements today along with bf% so I will post up what they were before and now. I have been looking into that 4-AD and came across some powered 4-AD on discount supps is that any good or should I order some caps from the states?

SOF that’s good she is treating as a bit of an adventure. Kids are tough and she will only need a little reassurance that everything will be ok and that she will still see ya.

Lo ya I suppose you should get posting like a spam ho so you can see my hulk posses pmsl!!!!!!!!!!

That’s good re the sides thing, are you feeling stronger? Have your lifts gone up? How about body weight?

Anyway I have almost shaken my cold off now just a little bit of the sniffles and I carnt hear at all out of my right ear but my left ear is fully clear lol!!!

Squats 105/5 110/5 115/5
Chins 12/12/10
Dips 12/12/12

Another good session today I think. Squats are going well but as I have said before I think I make major ground with my legs. This is primarily due to me not training very intensely at k-b for around a year and I am now kicking it back up a gear and trained on and off with weights for a 10 month period.

On a side note I only did 2 am cardio sessions this week due to my cold and I have kept my cals high at around 5-6 thousand per day. I was thinking of dropping them as wanted to cut but I am enjoying my increased strength so am gona play it by ear as I am still loosing b/f.

Overall I feel good bar the cold and am now a little disappointed that the M-Dien power train is coming to an end in one week but am looking forward to see what my Methoxy Tren/Epi concoction will bring.

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**** forgot my measurements.

BF has fell from 24% to 21.1%. body weight dropped from 16 stone in the first week to 15 stone 10 and has now shot upto 16 stone 1lb.

Neck 19 19
Waist 39 39
Chest 48 45.5
Bicep R 16 16.5
Bicep L 16 16.5
Thigh R 27 26
Thigh L 27 26
Calf R 17 16.5
Calf L 17 16.5

As you can see Meat you are right that my arms have increased in size and bf has not increased it has actually dropped.

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well done mate,did i read right u are ending the m-dien after 1 week?u must be mad its only now getting started!4ad is good stuff but i would recommend u do it transdermal as with the caps u will not get much as the liver destroys it as its unmethlayted,the dermal route is a bit messy and a bit of a chore but effective.

Taz, my daughter is staying with me tonight and we have had a really nice day together. She has always been such a happy little girl and seems to be staying that way. As long as she does then I'll be ok.

No difference with the SD at 30mg today and yesterday - no sides to report and will be interested to see what I weigh tomorrow night at the gym. Going off the mirror I thought I looked a bit fuller today and as a result had to measure my biceps. Delighted to find I have added half an inch since Monday morning!!

Looks like the M-Dien is equally potent and has definitely had a good effect on you so far. I will definitely be incorporating that in my next cycle based upon your results. Keep up the good work.

From the look of your measurements mate, your chest should be looking a lot better. Well done on the losses so far

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Pity we didn't vid Rack going from pink and healthy with a touch of brown to white, then green then that death grey colour reserved for the severely traumatised.

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Meat I have been on M-Dien for 2 weeks and I plan staying on for 1 more week making it 3 weeks on. I will then start on EPI AT 20/20/30/30/30 STACKED WITH Methoxy Tren at 6/6/6/6/6. I do have another bottle of M-dien and I suppose I could run that at 16 for another 3 weeks with the epi and then just do 2 week of EPI and Methoxy Tren stack. But I was kinda looking forward to giving 2 diff substances a try. What are your thoughts?

What do you mean by Transdermal? Are you referring to using some sort of a patch with it?

Also Meat I saw your results from your Shic, Breidge, Shic 6 week cycle. Id just like to say good job and I hope I can get that kinda result at the end of my cycle.

S0F it sounds like it’s a fairly amicable break up which is always so much easier. Plus no point in making a song and a dance about it.

Half inch is no mean feat mate I too am in the extra ½ inch possy lol!!!!!

Cheers bud. Ya I like M-Dien a lot although have nothing else to compare it too. But strength is going up, fat coming down all the important measurements are going in the right direction all in all.

Cheers Rack.

Its strange cause I have lost a little size on the chest from when I started but you are right it looks much better. It looks better than it did whilst wearing shirts aswell which confused me. But I suppose my shirts are feeling tighter as I am getting bigger in other places.

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But I suppose my shirts are feeling tighter as I am getting bigger in other places.

This is one thing that annoys me about training, you soon grow out of all your nice designer clothes... looks like cycle is going well, keep it up!!!

What do you mean by Transdermal? Are you referring to using some sort of a patch with it?

Most transdermals are mixed with a carrier(http://www.1fast400.com/p820_Transport_Matrix_DermaBolics.html) you then squirt and rub in, a lot of the prohormones like 1AD, 4AD etc have very poor oral bioavailability and transdermal is the most effective way of utilising them.

 
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hey taz,

good journal, subscribed. got all the same compounds in the press you have. might run the same cycle so keep the updates coming. think i will start after the ire v wales 6-nations game. cant wait to start. it will be my first cycle also.

the mtrn epi stack should be dynamite, have read some logs giving some great strength increases on the mtrn.

i would definately keep the mdein going with the epi and trn mate the gains from mdien keep coming into week 4 i wouldnt stop now. as anabolic jay said u mix the powder with a thick oil and rub it into ur skin,this way it gets into your body missing the liver,im sure the oil is available form discount-supplements ill have a look for u now.

the carrier oil is not on their site anymore but its still around,can be quite expensive though,if u want test maybe injections would be a better option?

Lol AJ. You know I buy 2 sizes now of my shirts one xl and one xxl just so I have clothes that fit when bulking and cutting lol!!!!!
Cheers for the link bud I will check it out when I get home.
Hi Larry K cheers for dropping in.

Thanks for the comments on my journal. I can recommend the M-Dien as no sides bar feeling a little tiered and the results are proving good solid ones.

That’s good to know others have had good experiences.

Meat so you think I should run M-Dien for one extra week along side EPI and Methoxy Tren?

Do you think 4-AD would have a place in this cycle? As I don’t feel like libido has taken a hit at all yet but tiredness is p**sing me off a little.

Cheers for looking at the oil.

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i would run it for at least another week mate probably 3,as an epi trn and mdien combo will be amazing.u dont need the 4ad if u are feeling ok,maybe some caffine tabs or energy drinks to help with the tiredness,i use tescos own brand red bull knock off,love the stuff.

Ok Meat this is gona take a little thought I think as is messing with my later planned cycles a little. The following is my planned cycles todate which work around exams and holidays etc so I can not extend them past what I have planned already.

First Cycle Weeks
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
M-Dien 16 16 16
EPI 20 20 30 30 30
Meth Tren 6 6 6

Followed by 3 weeks PCT and 2 weeks off. I may used that Cissus drol over these 2 weeks.

Second Cycle Weeks
1 2 3 4 5 6
EPI 30 30 30 30 30 30
Meth Tren 6 6 6 6 6 6

Followed by 3 weeks PCT and 1 week off

Third Cycle Weeks
1 2 3 4 5 6
SD 20 30 30
M-Dien 6 6 6

Followed by 3 weeks PCT. I would then break from using Orals through to maybe November where I would possible run a short 3 week cycle before xmas.

The above would mean the purchase of 2 more bottles of Methoxy Tren, 1 bottle of SD and what ever pct additional I would run like Mass FX, HDX2, Retain 2 or cissus drol (if its any good).

I could mod my 1st cycle to look like this:

First Cycle Weeks
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
M-Dien 16 16 16 16 16 16
EPI 20 20 30 30 30
Meth Tren 6 6 6 6 6 6

Followed by 3 weeks PCT and 2 weeks off. I may used that Cissus drol over these 2 weeks.

This would deplete my stock of orals completely lol!!!! Meaning I would need 2 new 6 week cycles. I am game for doing this crazy first cycle but I am a little unsure how I will ever if ever reconstruct the effectiveness I will get from this cycle. Not that it is the be all and end all……….

But still your thoughts on the above please???? Oh and re test, I am not sure I am fully researched on it enough yet to plus as I don’t train in a gym I am unlikely to build any contacts within that respect.

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ok seeing as this is your first cycle,maybe it would be best if u stick to the original cycle as planned,u can always on the second cycle ramp thing up if needed,u will not need 3 steroids for a first cycle. drop the mdien or run for 1 more week,then carry on with the epi mtrn as planned and save the rest for the next cycle.also i have some reliable contacts for u if u want,let me know ill pm u the details.

I will stick to original plan then and run M-Dien for 1 more week and then switch to EPI and Meth Tren. I may run the Meth Tren for the full 5 weeks though rather than 3 but I will wait and see how I get on with it. Meat you have post bud.

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Meat as you may know I too am on my first cycle. Today is day 8 of SD (30mg per day after 5 days at 20mg). I plan on switching to Epi for 4/5 weeks from day 22. Like Taz I also have Alri Methoxy-TRN in my cupboard and wonder if you think it would be better to add the Methoxy-TRN to the Epi (as Taz is doing) or not? What difference would it make in your opinion? Would 6mg per day be sufficient. I have been natural throughout (trained on and off for 20+ years) but have decided I cannot get any bigger naturally. I am about 19st 5 at the moment (bodyfat too high 25%+) so think I will be ok running more than one compound as a first cycle.

Taz - looks like we are taking a similar path this year; our "medicine cupboards" seem to be full of the same things!! Off to gym later. Will report back re weight etc. Still no sides whatsoever.

I carnt comment from experiance yet until next week. But I like the idea of the strenght and fat dropping abilities of this stack so I would give it the

And say do it.

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Seeing as the misses is sitting an exam and I was at a loose end I decided to hit the punch bag for a few mins. Nothing too crazy but I did five 1 min stints on my bag with around 30 secs break inbetween (HIIT Style).

I was breathing throuigh my ass by the end of it lol!!!! I am gona keep pushing on this every week to help keep my stamina in check. Id be happy at being able to get it up to say eight 1min 30 sec rounds. I may even film a few of em when my fittness improves so everyone can have a laugh at me knocking my bag around.

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back at u taz! sof i would add the trn with th epi as thay compliment each other very nicely,u will have the musclebuilding and anti-e effects of the epi,and the stregth and muscle hardening effects of the trn they make for a lovely cycle! 6mg is plenty.

any thoughts on diet through this cycle meat?