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2012/01/20 11:58:53 (permalink)

Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice )

hi people, really quick and probably annoying question but can you please check to see if this cycle is ok.
Many thanks

Probably be running test e 500 week 1-10

I want to run arimidex and nolva throughout cycle possibly week 2-12

Then I have ROHM pct capsules for pct weeks 13-17

So basically I have test e, arimidex, ROHM capsules and Nolva

If u think I could or should re arrange it slightly please tell me.

Many thanks in advance
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 12:22:04 (permalink)
Cycle looks fine mate, I wouldn't run Arimidex unless you suffer badly with bloat and cannot control it using usual methods alone, Nolvadex will be more than enough for any possible gyno. Can't comment on the PCT caps, never used them but would prefer to stick to Nolvadex and or Clomid for PCT personally.
 
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 12:31:42 (permalink)
Thanks for reply buddy, much appreciated.

Well the caps are ROHM caps and they contain nolva, clomid and I believe HCG.
I'll be taking them at 2 caps Ed for the first week then 1 caps Ed for the next 3 weeks.
I believe each cap contains 20mg nolva and 50mg clomid.

Yea I wasn't sure about arimidex and nolva but I wanna be safe as I do get bloated and hate a tiny gyno bump from ph cycle a few years back.

Any idea how I should Dose the nolva and arimidex through out the cycle (I.e. Nolva one day arimidex the next) and is 2 weeks best to wait to start PCT for 4 weeks??

Thanks again to all
post edited by BritishKnights - 2012/01/20 12:39:41
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 12:39:54 (permalink)
If you have an existing gyno you would be much better just running the Nolva for protection as it has a long and proven track record of not only protecting against it, but actually reversing it completely, plenty of studies to prove it mate. Arimidex also reduces the effects of Nolvadex so isn't the best choice to accompany it mate.
I would run the Nolvadex throughout the cycle at 20mg/day from day 1 mate.
 
2 weeks after final injection is perfect to begin PCT mate.
 
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 12:50:40 (permalink)
Top man. Really appreciate the responses, as u don't know me from Adam it's really kind of u to help me out, there's so many conflicting cycles and ideas out there on it.

So it would be a simple

(Week 1-10)500 each week of test E split in to 2 250 shots Monday and thursday

(Week 1- end of week 12) 20mg nolva Ed upped to 40 if gyno is present

(Week 13(beginning of)- week 17) ROHM pct caps, twice a day for first week, once a day for following 3 weeks.


Just to put my mind at rest does that look spot on???

Thanks again

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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 12:58:39 (permalink)
No problem, looks good to me mate, enjoy the cycle and keep us posted with progress
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 13:03:48 (permalink)
Thanks mate, will do.

Can't believe how quick I got a decent response., this will be my new forum as opposed to bodybuilding.com

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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 13:27:49 (permalink)
Welcome to the forum mate
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 16:29:46 (permalink)
As big fella said armed ex runs against Nolva so avoid running both, as does letrozole. Have you experienced gyno before? If not then maybe you'd be better of running the test alone and keeping check on symptoms of gyno such as sore or itchy nipples then kick in Nolva if you need to intra course, just thinking of you maximising your gains.

Also what values are you going to run your PCT at?
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 17:27:41 (permalink)
Hi mate. Thanks for the advice,.

PCT is as I said the capsules that contain 50mg clomid, 20mg nolva and some Pt141 or something similar.

I'll be taking 2 caps per day from 2 weeks after last shot for 10 days then one cap a day after that.
So effectively it will be

Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

Look ok mate??


Thanks for reply, much appreciated
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 17:35:36 (permalink)
Sorry I misread that bit.

Yes it looks good to me mate, you should see some decent gains with that course especially if its your first and if your diet and training is spot on too. Good luck with it.
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 17:37:23 (permalink)
Also may I just add, for the last 4 days I've been taking these ROHM pct capsules ( not intending to start jabs for another week yet) to see how I react. I'd never taken clomid before and because I've seen many Internet stories about clomid and depression, I thought I'll be safe and take a double dose for a week to see if it affects me mentally as I had 1 bout of depression earlier in my life.

Anyway from the ROHM capsules as a standalone for 4-5 days as a precaution all I've noticed is hot flushes, increased balls size and my mood being a bit snappy.

Just thought I'd share that
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 18:19:51 (permalink)
Increased ball size is always a happy effect although makes your dick look smaller LOL
A lot of the 'emotional' feeling associated with Clomid is also down to the fact it is used at the end of a cycle and estrogen levels are high as androgen levels fall, but you will be fine I am sure mate, just avoid watching anything like Watership Down or you will end up in floods of tears like many of us have over the years LOL
 
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 18:30:03 (permalink)
Ha ha,

Hopefully Ill be fine, it's just cos I suffered depression once before and had to take Prozac, I thought I'll try this clomid first to make sure I don't get bad mental affects.

But yea you're right I'm sure at the end of the cycle it's because of hormone imbalances.

Am I right in thinking clomid has a short half life so if at the end of the cycle I did get bad affects I could stop taking it and up the nolva dosage and the clomid affects would stop within two days??

I know I sound paranoid, I just never wanna suffer depression ever again in my life lol
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 18:39:49 (permalink)
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Ha ha,

Hopefully Ill be fine, it's just cos I suffered depression once before and had to take Prozac, I thought I'll try this clomid first to make sure I don't get bad mental affects.

But yea you're right I'm sure at the end of the cycle it's because of hormone imbalances.

Am I right in thinking clomid has a short half life so if at the end of the cycle I did get bad affects I could stop taking it and up the nolva dosage and the clomid affects would stop within two days??

I know I sound paranoid, I just never wanna suffer depression ever again in my life lol

Definitely mate, if you suffer anything like that stop its dosing straight away. Nolvadex does seem much better tolerated by majority of users regarding emotional effects post cycle so any doubt switch mate. Also some people find AI's like Aromasin are all they can cope with so might be worth looking at sourcing some incase you don't react well to Nolva/Clomid in terms of side effects emotionally etc.
 
Sorry to hear you have suffered depression mate, that is something that noone should go through and I sincerely hope you never do again!
 
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/20 21:41:22 (permalink)
Thanks mate, yea I wouldn't wish depression on any one. It truely is a terrible thing. I honestly believe my bout of depression was down to life stress and life style. I had to do a CBT course which I think would prevent me suffering it anymore.

If I dis get any effects coming on during the PCT from clomid would u suggest switching to Nolva at 40mg Ed for the PCT or worst case just arimidex?

Also can u confirm that clomid does have a short half life and is out of your system within a few days?? I think knowing that it was a short term thing if I did get any bad sides I'd just be able to muddle on through so long as it's only related to the substance , which it would be.


Thanks again mate
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/21 20:22:31 (permalink)
Hey, 2 more questions about my cycle If someone wouldn't mind giving me a few answers please I'd be very thankful.

1- if as mentioned earlier I suffered depression on my PCT from the ROHM pills, how would I dose a nolva only PCT??


2- doing 500mg of test e a week, I'll be splitting it in to 2 jabs of 250mg a week 3-4 days apart. Is it fine to run the same dose of 500mg per week for 10 weeks??


Trying to keep the course simple.

Thanks again for any replys
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/22 07:44:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
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Hey, 2 more questions about my cycle If someone wouldn't mind giving me a few answers please I'd be very thankful.

1- if as mentioned earlier I suffered depression on my PCT from the ROHM pills, how would I dose a nolva only PCT??


2- doing 500mg of test e a week, I'll be splitting it in to 2 jabs of 250mg a week 3-4 days apart. Is it fine to run the same dose of 500mg per week for 10 weeks??


Trying to keep the course simple.

Thanks again for any replys

Nolva only PCT run 60mg on first day, then 10 days at 40mg/day followed by 10 further days at 20mg/day mate.
 
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/22 10:14:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpful
Test E 250mg Mon
Test E 250mg Thurs
Nolva run 2nd week after cycle
40/20/20/10
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Re:Test Enanthate cycle and PCT(advice ) 2012/01/22 10:29:26 (permalink)
Vapor and big fella thanks again for replys. Very helpful.


On the off chance of gyno during my cycle despite the fact Ill be taking 20mg if nolva through out, would u suggest getting arimidex or upping nolva to 40 untill gyno disappears?
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