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Test Prop and Winny Cycle 28 January 2012 04:21 (permalink)
I've not posted on here for a long while so you probably don't know who I am, but i've done a few steroid cycles, and recently got back into the gym and couldn't resist doing a steroid cycle. I'm on Test Prop 100mg eod and winny 50mgs a day. My idea was to harden up and get more define. I've actually put on a bit of weight, i'm trying to eat 6 to 7 small high protein meals a day, including weigh protein in 2 of them meals.
 
I've bloated out so obviously test prop has given me a bit of water bloat. Would it be worth running Nolva? If so how many mgs a day?  My nipples are feeling a tiny bit tender but I've had gyno before and its not as painful or sore and I didn't want to effect gains, I think its paranoia as I've had before!
 
One more Question I was due for an Injection yesterday, but I got food poising, not too bad as I feel a tad better now, so I basically had 2 protein drinks yesterday and vitamins that's it and couldn't do my injection. Should I Take 100mgs Winny tabs today or just carry on as normal? Also Shall I do 200mg of Test prop today (as I missed my shot yesterday) then do eod 100mg as normal?
 
Sorry got something else. If I do take Nolva or Arimidex (which evers better?) Can I still use Nolva 2 days after my course is finished or stick with clomid for PCT (I hate clomid btw)
 
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    Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 28 January 2012 22:05 (permalink)

    i went with 150mg shot and 8 winny tabs (as I couldn't swallow one down Saturday due to some stomach bug I put down to some dodgy food) Today I've felt much better so tomorrow will do 7, then back to 5 a day and 150mg Test day after next then back to 100mg eod.
     
    Anyone any advice re my other questions please?
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      Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 28 January 2012 23:16 (permalink)
      Nolva won't do anything for bloat, arimidex is what you need, or simply just drink more water.

      I don't know anything about winny from personal experience But I thought that it reduced water retention on its own so something sounds a bit off if you have bloat on a prop and winny cycle. Someone else needs to comment on this

      If you have tingly nipples taking an ai won't do any harm to get that under control, nolva will do the trick as well but bloating on a prop and winny cycle I think is unusual.

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        Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 29 January 2012 10:31 (permalink)
        I find Nolva helps with bloat personally. Yes start Nolva mate. 40 mg per day at first untill it eases. 
         
        As minger says Winny should help with gyno as it's DHT based but if you think you have it take the Nolva, it should sort it.
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          Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 29 January 2012 13:59 (permalink)
          some posts edited to reflect misunderstanding
           

           
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            Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 31 January 2012 06:25 (permalink)
            Thanks guys, well I've worked out its not water bloat i'm just gaining a lot more mass than I thought I would on this sort of cycle but my bodys hard so its not a bloat issue. the nipple thing must be paranoia as its gone away. Its lack of cardio also, which i've picked up on in the last few days and my abs are starting to show:)
             
            Proviron also helps keep gyno away so I've heard so that and winny should be fine.
             
            I'm going to start another thread if I get no replys, but i'll ask the question here 1st.
            I was going to do an 8 week cycle because winny is harsh on the liver but I want to change that now to a 12 week cycle as. Is it wise to run Winny for 12 weeks? I'm taking milk thistle but I do enjoy the occasional drink. I own a bar in Thailand I cant get away from it, though i've cut right down since i've started training again
             
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              Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 31 January 2012 06:52 (permalink)
              Winny and prop shouldnt cause too much bloat.
               
              Try less carbs, more water, less sodium and more potassium first of all.
               
              Failing that you could look into adex or possible letro to help with the water if its really causing you an issue. To be honest the only thing that annoys me about serious bloat is how difficult it makes cardio


               
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                Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 31 January 2012 08:46 (permalink)
                I wouldn't do winny for 12 weeks m8
                 
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                  Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 31 January 2012 12:08 (permalink)
                  Why not run the winny for 8 weeks mate. If you can handle the joint pain for that long, I know I can't but love the med. Oh your on test that eases the joint pain for me. Think it's due to estrogen. 
                   
                  I would still just use Nolva personally. It helps bloat too in some people, if that doesn't do the trick get adex.
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                    Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 31 January 2012 13:01 (permalink)
                    OK mate, I was thinking the same. Can I run the test prop for another month on its own, or add something. Or should I stop at the 8 week mark with the winny then start running clomid?
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                      Re:Test Prop and Winny Cycle 31 January 2012 15:57 (permalink)
                      isnt test prop meant to be the best  to reduce water retention?
                       
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