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2012/02/19 12:32:37 (permalink)

Test and deca cycle

Allrite just finished 12 week cycle of test e 500 a week n had some solid gains. In pct at the mo so see how much I keep when its done. Going to start another cycle in the summer and I want to do test and deca, so any suggestions on cycle length/dose etc. I already have hcg and nolva aswel. Should I do hcg throughout? Any help or links wil be appreciated. Also I gained nearly 2.5 stone from first cycle and didnt get any bloat, acne or 'roid rage' is this just down 2 me as an individual or because my diet was spot on or both.
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    stone14
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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/19 14:07:40 (permalink)
    1-12 500mg test
    1-12 400mg deca
     
    yes imo run hcg throughout 500iu 2-3x ew
     
    pct would start 3weeks after last deca inj tho so i dont no if you want to add something like winstrol in for 4weeks at the end to keep the cycle going till you react your pct time, or drop the deca week 10 and start pct 2weeks after your last test e inj..... or are you using sustanon?

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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/19 15:51:59 (permalink)
    Thanks mate. Was going to run test enth but not decided yet. I like the sound of the winstrol at the end also. This will only be my second cycle, is 3 differen types too much? If not would I drop the test and deca after week 12 theb run winstrol alone for 4weeks? If so would I up cardio and lower carbs at that stage?
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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/19 16:28:01 (permalink)
    I'm going for a sus and deca cycle next and was also wondering if I should run something with it along the lines of nolva to combat bloating, gyno, cramps etc.


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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/19 17:18:20 (permalink)
    You want a ai really not nolva mate
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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/19 17:19:54 (permalink)
    With test-e you stop the deca 2 weeks before you finish the test then start pct 2 weeks after your last test jab.

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    post edited by Minger - 2012/02/19 17:22:19
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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/19 17:39:42 (permalink)
    Minger

    You want a ai really not nolva mate

     
    any recommendations as to which one?


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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/19 18:30:53 (permalink)
    Arimidex or aromasin mate, letrozole will do it but it can be a tad strong for some ppl
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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/20 18:40:10 (permalink)
    ok thanks


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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/21 17:06:22 (permalink)
    Hey minger you seem to know alot what you recon for my cycle then. Deca 10weeks test e 12weeks and nolva pct. Do you think I should include armidex? And what about hcg? Use throughout or blast it before pct?
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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/21 17:41:21 (permalink)
    I would use hcg from week 2 in to ur cycle. At a dosage from 250-500iu 2 times a week.
     
    What is ur question about armidex ?? If i understand u right. Then i would use it during ur cycle. And not use nolva as a anti e.

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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/21 17:47:39 (permalink)
    Deca I'd run for 12 weeks if you can, test for 14 then hit the nolva pct 2 weeks after your last test jab. Deca is very slow acting and won't really become apparent until week 6 so I run the cycle a wee bit longer to make the most of it.

    If your gyno prone like I am then arimidex 1/2 pil every other day.

    Hcg will help your recovery so to keep things ticking over 500iu a week is plenty from week 4 but it's up to you, it's the deca that's very suppressive so you want to run the hcg whilst this is in your system.

    Hope this helps and good luck with your cycle.

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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/21 18:02:17 (permalink)
    Hmm strange what u say Minger. My first and second cycle was test e and deca. I did gain alot on both cycles. And did keep about half of what i did gain from both cycles. Both cycles was only 6 weeks. So i think its strange that u say that the deca wont work before week 6.
     
    And Minger the body will be shut down before week 3. So why start using hcg at week 4 ? I thought the main thing about hcg was to keep things going. Before the body is totally shut down..

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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/21 18:10:53 (permalink)
    cheers for the info.


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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/21 20:58:59 (permalink)
    Deconate is a damn slow acting ester I can't possibly see how you got much from a 6 week cycle you'd just be peaking as you come off, it produces slow gains so I can only assume that most of your gains were from the test.

    If you had used npp which is the short ester nandrolone then possibly but not deca durabolin.

    Excerpt from the steroid profile

    Deca-Durabolin is known for producing quality weight gains, but it has to be used for 12 weeks at a minimum, judging from members feedback, as well as my own personal experience. This shouldnt cause any problems, since it is a very mild drug in terms of side-effects.

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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/21 21:01:15 (permalink)
    Hcg can be used anytime during a cycle, if you don't use it till the end then you use more over a shorter period, at the end of the day it just keeps the htpa side of things ticking over and your nuts from shrinking.

    I've used it half way through my cycles every time with great success.

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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/22 06:16:22 (permalink)
    I heare what u say Minger. And i not say that u are wrong. The deca i did use was from Norma. And it was durabolin and not npp.

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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/22 20:33:59 (permalink)
    Good to see a little debate going. Ok say if I do a 14 week cycle, test for 14, deca for 12, what doses are we talking. 500ml test e, split into 2x 250, and the deca? And hcg 500iu once a week or in 2? And can I mix any of them? And armidex eod at like 25mg?
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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/22 21:08:13 (permalink)
    Deca@300mg per week
    Test @ 500mg per week

    Arimidex 1/2 eod
    HCG 500iu once a week

    Tamoxifen for pct

    You are good to go!

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    Re:Test and deca cycle 2012/02/22 21:17:09 (permalink)
    Hey Minger, Just whilst your here - Would it be ok to use Aromasin instead of Arimidex with the test/deca cycle? If so, at what dosage? And, would you start the AI's from day one?
     
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    post edited by Sciatic - 2012/02/22 21:18:13
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