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Test only 19 February 2010 22:52 (permalink)
Hey guys,

i soon will start my first Test e cycle. Itll be 250mg e7d and the length will be between 10 and 16 weeks, i decide that while on.
Ive done an OT only cycle last summer, so ive got a little experience with gear. My PCT included Clomifen that i dont want to use again because i didnt feel that great while using it. Tamoxifen is no option because im using Sertraline (antidepressant) which uses the same enzyms as Tamoxifen.
A friend of mine said i could use Aromasin as PCT and too if some gyno is coming up.

What do you guys think about that ? What amount would you suggest to take as PCT and for Gyno ?

greetings Spogi

 
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    Re:Test only 19 February 2010 22:56 (permalink)

    <message edited by mega on 19 February 2010 23:34>
     
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      Re:Test only 19 February 2010 23:08 (permalink)
      Hey mega,

      thanks for your quick reply. Isnt it bad to use 12,5mg aromsin thoughout the whole cycle ? As i read the problem could be that the estrogen gets too low which causes other problems.

      Nolva would work, thats really sad, but im happy that i found out. Otherwise there would have been a bad present :).

      I think im going to get some clomid and just try it with aromasin for PCT.

      So if i got it, you would use 12.5mg aromasin ed throughout the whole cycle + 5 weeks after the last inject ? (which would be 3 weeks after Test then).
      How much Clomid would be neccessary ? 50mg ed for 3 weeks ?

      greetings spogi
       
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        Re:Test only 19 February 2010 23:09 (permalink)
        I meant "Nolva wouldnt work...."


         
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          Re:Test only 20 February 2010 10:09 (permalink)
          how heavy are you already pal? and whats your bf%

          i'm asking purley because i started my cycle with fairly high bf and 300mg a week just wasn't quite enough for me.

          but if you are fairly lean then 250mg will be ok. not amazing, but ok.

          just my opinion.
           
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            Re:Test only 20 February 2010 11:42 (permalink)
            Hey Dude,

            my weight is 90kg with an 15,2% BF (183cm high). Right now im doing a diet (anabolic diet of ketogenic diet) with nearly no carbs (about 20g/day). Ill get the bodyfat a little more down before i start my cycle. I think 250mg e7d is good to start with, as i recognize it isnt enough, i can get it up to 250mg e5d.

            Do you also have any suggestions with respect to aromasin ?

            greetings spogi
             
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              Re:Test only 21 February 2010 10:38 (permalink)
              i wouldn't have thought that you need to run aromasin on a low dose test cycle. give it a go at 250mg, you may be surprised.
               
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                Re:Test only 21 February 2010 10:43 (permalink)
                hello spogi

                you should just up the dose to 500mg every week, i dont think you will notice much at all on such a low dose

                if you do run 500mg a week then just use 12.5mg or aromasin or .5mg of adex ED

                im using .5mg of adex ED but for my pct i will be using 12.5mg aromasin as it helps get natural test levels back up more quickly

                i really do think you would be wasting your time on 250 a week
                 
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                  Re:Test only 21 February 2010 10:49 (permalink)
                  chris182


                  hello spogi

                  you should just up the dose to 500mg every week, i dont think you will notice much at all on such a low dose

                  if you do run 500mg a week then just use 12.5mg or aromasin or .5mg of adex ED

                  im using .5mg of adex ED but for my pct i will be using 12.5mg aromasin as it helps get natural test levels back up more quickly

                  i really do think you would be wasting your time on 250 a week


                  mate of mine has just finished 10 weeks @ 300mg, he's done very well off it.

                  i agree that 500mg is now the minimum i'd run(of test-e/c) but some guys respond well to low doses.

                  at the end of the day its up to you spogi.
                   
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                    Re:Test only 21 February 2010 11:01 (permalink)
                    suppose it also depends on your gear if its dosed correctly
                     
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                      Re:Test only 21 February 2010 17:04 (permalink)
                      Hey guys,

                      thanks for your answers. Well, i just want to start low dose, with 250mg e7d. When i think it isn enough, i still can get up with the dose. A friend of my is using the same dose at the moment and while in week 6 he gained around 5kg and has great strenght gains. I dont think it is necessary to begin with such a high dose.

                      But ari or aro isnt required with such low dose ? would it be ok to use as PCT alone ? so 250mg e7d and PCT with e.g. arimidex only ? what would be the dose than ? and what dose should i take if gyno probs occur ?

                      greetings spogi


                       
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                        Re:Test only 23 February 2010 09:49 (permalink)
                        nobody ?
                         
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