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Hey guys, i soon will start my first Test e cycle. Itll be 250mg e7d and the length will be between 10 and 16 weeks, i decide that while on. Ive done an OT only cycle last summer, so ive got a little experience with gear. My PCT included Clomifen that i dont want to use again because i didnt feel that great while using it. Tamoxifen is no option because im using Sertraline (antidepressant) which uses the same enzyms as Tamoxifen. A friend of mine said i could use Aromasin as PCT and too if some gyno is coming up. What do you guys think about that ? What amount would you suggest to take as PCT and for Gyno ? greetings Spogi
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Re:Test only
19 February 2010 22:56
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<message edited by mega on 19 February 2010 23:34>
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Re:Test only
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Hey mega, thanks for your quick reply. Isnt it bad to use 12,5mg aromsin thoughout the whole cycle ? As i read the problem could be that the estrogen gets too low which causes other problems. Nolva would work, thats really sad, but im happy that i found out. Otherwise there would have been a bad present :). I think im going to get some clomid and just try it with aromasin for PCT. So if i got it, you would use 12.5mg aromasin ed throughout the whole cycle + 5 weeks after the last inject ? (which would be 3 weeks after Test then). How much Clomid would be neccessary ? 50mg ed for 3 weeks ? greetings spogi
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Re:Test only
19 February 2010 23:09
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I meant "Nolva wouldnt work...."
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Re:Test only
20 February 2010 10:09
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how heavy are you already pal? and whats your bf% i'm asking purley because i started my cycle with fairly high bf and 300mg a week just wasn't quite enough for me. but if you are fairly lean then 250mg will be ok. not amazing, but ok. just my opinion.
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Re:Test only
20 February 2010 11:42
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Hey Dude, my weight is 90kg with an 15,2% BF (183cm high). Right now im doing a diet (anabolic diet of ketogenic diet) with nearly no carbs (about 20g/day). Ill get the bodyfat a little more down before i start my cycle. I think 250mg e7d is good to start with, as i recognize it isnt enough, i can get it up to 250mg e5d. Do you also have any suggestions with respect to aromasin ? greetings spogi
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Re:Test only
21 February 2010 10:38
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i wouldn't have thought that you need to run aromasin on a low dose test cycle. give it a go at 250mg, you may be surprised.
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Re:Test only
21 February 2010 10:43
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hello spogi you should just up the dose to 500mg every week, i dont think you will notice much at all on such a low dose if you do run 500mg a week then just use 12.5mg or aromasin or .5mg of adex ED im using .5mg of adex ED but for my pct i will be using 12.5mg aromasin as it helps get natural test levels back up more quickly i really do think you would be wasting your time on 250 a week
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Re:Test only
21 February 2010 10:49
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chris182 hello spogi you should just up the dose to 500mg every week, i dont think you will notice much at all on such a low dose if you do run 500mg a week then just use 12.5mg or aromasin or .5mg of adex ED im using .5mg of adex ED but for my pct i will be using 12.5mg aromasin as it helps get natural test levels back up more quickly i really do think you would be wasting your time on 250 a week mate of mine has just finished 10 weeks @ 300mg, he's done very well off it. i agree that 500mg is now the minimum i'd run(of test-e/c) but some guys respond well to low doses. at the end of the day its up to you spogi.
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Re:Test only
21 February 2010 11:01
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suppose it also depends on your gear if its dosed correctly
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Re:Test only
21 February 2010 17:04
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Hey guys, thanks for your answers. Well, i just want to start low dose, with 250mg e7d. When i think it isn enough, i still can get up with the dose. A friend of my is using the same dose at the moment and while in week 6 he gained around 5kg and has great strenght gains. I dont think it is necessary to begin with such a high dose. But ari or aro isnt required with such low dose ? would it be ok to use as PCT alone ? so 250mg e7d and PCT with e.g. arimidex only ? what would be the dose than ? and what dose should i take if gyno probs occur ? greetings spogi
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Re:Test only
23 February 2010 09:49
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nobody ?
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