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2010/08/13 16:31:54 (permalink)

Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle

Hi Guys,

I'm 27, 191cm (6ft3) and 84.5 KG (186 lb)

I'm researching my next cycle and I've got something like this in mind http://www.steroiddotcom/intermediatecycle3.php that i found on steroid dot com.

One worrying thing is that there seems to be no PCT included. 


I'm looking to pack on lean muscle and improve strength and endurance so I can train more frequently. As well as resistance training I spend most of my time training Krav Maga, which is basically mixed martial arts, drills, technique, cardio, bodyweight, etc.

Whats your opinions on the cycle for what I want to do? Would you change anything or recommend something different? 


week 1-4
Test 500mgs
Equi 400mgs
Dbol 25mgs



week 5-8 
Test 500mgs
Equi 400mgs



week 9-12 
Test 500mgs
Equi 400mgs
Anavar 50mgs



post edited by SlammerJammerMan - 2010/08/13 17:16:13
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 16:50:16 (permalink)
    i wud use 600mg eq most ppl say its a min dose, and im sure your var dose is below the norm also, think 60mg+

    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 17:11:39 (permalink)
    forget the var for four weeks its a waste, switch it to winny @ 50mg ed. Apart from that it looks fine to me, just need to sort pct which id opt for nolva and clomid combo.
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 17:29:32 (permalink)
    stone14

    i wud use 600mg eq most ppl say its a min dose, and im sure your var dose is below the norm also, think 60mg+



    Ah yeah sorry that was a typo i meant to say 50mg of the anavar. I've edited my post! 


    So you would bump up the eq to 600mg? This is my 3rd course that I have run and so far i've been told that less is more and to save the higher dosages for later on down the line. 
    post edited by SlammerJammerMan - 2010/08/13 18:27:42
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 17:36:27 (permalink)
    arnold84

    forget the var for four weeks its a waste, switch it to winny @ 50mg ed. Apart from that it looks fine to me, just need to sort pct which id opt for nolva and clomid combo.



    I've tried winny before and wanted to give the anavar a go as i've heard a lot of good things about it!


    So for PCT: 
    Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg 
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg 
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg



    ???
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 17:45:03 (permalink)
    ^^^that looks alright for PCT mate. I would be tempted to go up to 80mg on the Nolva day one... but thats just me:D
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 18:28:06 (permalink)
    var for that length of time wopuld be a waste imo either extend it for 6wk at least or choose another med
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 18:33:45 (permalink)
    i guess i could do 4 weeks dbols then 8 weeks var. Doesn't give my liver much of a break thought from the orals. 
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 21:44:36 (permalink)
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    arnold84

    forget the var for four weeks its a waste, switch it to winny @ 50mg ed. Apart from that it looks fine to me, just need to sort pct which id opt for nolva and clomid combo.



    I've tried winny before and wanted to give the anavar a go as i've heard a lot of good things about it!


    So for PCT: 
    Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg 
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg 
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg



    ???


    Your be very disappointed with anavar at that dose and duration, ive ran anavar quite afew times the minimum id personally run is 60mg ed for atleast 8 weeks, it really start to shine at 6 weeks ++. If you fancy trying something else for then try tbol
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 23:16:52 (permalink)

    Thanks for the advice guys, loving the fact that most of the advice so far has been, take more!    haha


    So with adjustments:


    week 1-4
     
    Test 500mgs 
    Equi 600mgs 
    Dbol 25mgs 


    week 5-12  
    Test 500mgs 
    Equi 600mgs 
    Anavar 60mgs 


    PCT:  
    Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 80mg  
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg  
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg 


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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 23:33:19 (permalink)
    i'd take the anavar out completely and save for next cycle.
    It's only your 3rd cycle and you want to see how you get on with the test & eq, the more meds you add the harder to tell whats doing what with respect to results.

    MRE
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/13 23:45:04 (permalink)
    Well the thinking behind it was to do something like winstrol or anavar for 4 weeks at the end of the cycle to harded up and help keep results.

    Let me term it a different way then, what would be the best med to take towards the end of a cycle (last 4 weeks) that will harded up and help me keep the results?
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/14 00:01:48 (permalink)
    Winstrol.

    However, using meds to harden, cut, rip, lean, isn't correct, it's down to diet to harden.

    To keep results after cycle is down to PCT to get the test back online and shorten the catabolic state after discontinuing meds, to keep gains. adding extra meds alongside existing ones will not help this IMO.

    MRE
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/14 00:23:52 (permalink)
    So much conflicting information out there. Thats why its good to speak to people who have been there before on these forums!

    So i'm going to cut out the anavar then and just stick with a little winstrol 

    week 1-4  
    Test 500mgs  
    Equi 600mgs  
    Dbol 25mgs 
     

    week 5-8   
    Test 500mgs  
    Equi 600mgs  
      





    week 9-12   
    Test 500mgs  
    Equi 600mgs  
    Winny 50mgs



    PCT:   
    Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 80mg   
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg   
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg 
     



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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/14 00:52:45 (permalink)
    Or?

    You could run winny weeks 12-16, as you cant start PCT till week 16 anyway due to the long ester with EQ.

    Thats what i would do anyway, hope it helps, it would look like this;

    week 1-4   
    Test 500mgs   
    Equi 600mgs   
    Dbol 25mgs 
      

    week 5-12    
    Test 500mgs   
    Equi 600mgs  
      
     
     

    week 12-16
    winny 50mg ED 

    week 16 -19

    PCT:    
    Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 80mg    
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg    
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg 
     
     



    MRE
    post edited by MRENIGMA - 2010/08/14 00:54:04
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/14 00:55:20 (permalink)
    might even copy and paste that for my next cycle 
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/14 01:56:23 (permalink)
    I think we must be working on making the perfect cycle here! 

    Reading up on the half lifes of test and EQ and when to start PCT.
    From what i gather Test is 2 weeks after and EQ is 2-3 weeks. So it makes sense to start the PCT 2 weeks after.

    So tweak it again and we might just have a perfect cycle:
    week 1-4    
    Test 500mgs    
    Equi 600mgs    
    Dbol 25mgs 
       

    week 5-10     
    Test 500mgs    
    Equi 600mgs  



    week 10-12     
    Test 500mgs    
    Equi 600mgs    
    winny 50mg ED   

    week 12-14 
    winny 50mg ED  

    week 14 -17
     
    PCT:     
    Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 80mg     
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg     
    Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg


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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/14 02:13:43 (permalink)
    tu che!!! Looks spot on mate, think EQ half life is 3 - 4 weeks, but levels are low enough to start pct 2 weeks after last shot IIRC

    When you starting??

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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/14 02:20:11 (permalink)
    Well were not allowed to talk about sources here so lets just say as soon as santa comes with all his presents for me!!! haha
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    Re:Testosterone and Equipoise Cycle 2010/08/14 10:17:45 (permalink)
    I've just finished a sust and eq cycle, 350 sust Pw and 300 EQ.

    Running a nolva PCT currently.

    Gains were awesome, If i ran it over again though i'd double the EQ dose to 600mg and go with 500mg of sust. I don't seem to be dropping any weight during pct and have stayed bang on the same weight for about the last 10 days, even though i appear to be leaning out, I dropped 3kg initially over the first 4 or 5 days but ill assume that was mostly water so i'd say it's looking like i'll keep hold of the majority which is fantastic.

    Fantastic first cycle, Really enjoyed it. The appetite can be a killer initially but it dies down.

    good luck with it, Should give you some great gains!

    http://www.ugm.org.uk 
    Another interesting place!

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