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The Return of the jedi-This is not Sparta. This. Is. Madness.(now incl. Race to 100kg OHP)

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RE: The Return of the jedi 11 September 2009 11:22 (permalink)
I know what you mean, when i started squatting, I was told that I was going "too deep" but found it easier on the knees. Since being pushed to go heavier but not as deep I dont think I've as much progress tbh, and certainly find it harder to go back to going "deep".
 
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    RE: The Return of the jedi 12 September 2009 10:13 (permalink)
    Friday legs.

    Fronts. (hands placed a bit wider = not choking self quite as much)
    60 x 12
    80 x 8 x 3  (heels on plates for max. depth  -sshhhhhhh don't tell Ding)

    Back Squat (legs already feeling a bit wibbly)
    60 x 10
    110 x 8 (not fancying it so far)
    140 x 6 (below parallel there was probably a couple more available which is not bad after the fronts)
    110 x 12/10/8 (all below parallel)

    Leg Press
    stack x 12/10/8

    At which point proceedings had to be halted due to banging tension headache.
    Not that I felt I was missing much as legs were done.

    In other news am now already out to 12st 5 and panicking. I'm not going to cut the cals just yet, knees not so sore this week so will crack on with some cardio next week.
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      RE: The Return of the jedi 13 September 2009 17:49 (permalink)
      jedi
      In other news am now already out to 12st 5 and panicking.

      OMG!!1
      you better watch out, another 3 and a half stone and you'll be as fat as me.


      SQ:230 BP:160:) DL:250 OHP:120


       
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        RE: The Return of the jedi 14 September 2009 10:24 (permalink)
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        jedi
        In other news am now already out to 12st 5 and panicking.

        OMG!!1
        you better watch out, another 3 and a half stone and you'll be as fat as me.


        Well, if someone could guarantee that at 16st I could pull a 250 deadlift I might give it a go.
        As there are no such guarantees forthcoming, I'm already back on the cardio and conditioning. Went to the gym yesterday for 3machine cardio which was tedious in the extreme and then also tried out the sauna/steam room. Wanting to avoid a Chandler from friends situation I dusted down my Speedos.
        They just about sorta almost still fit but the results were, quite frankly, pornographic. I shared the sauna with the 3 very hairy moustachioed gentlemen
        *gulp.
        It was somewhat uncomfortable as an experience due more to being eye-raped than the heat The steam room was ace though, like sitting in a boiling fog.
        In a spaceship.
        Today I feel squeeeeeeeaky clean.


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          RE: The Return of the jedi 14 September 2009 10:28 (permalink)
          Nice work on the squats mate.
           
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            RE: The Return of the jedi 14 September 2009 10:41 (permalink)
            ^Cheers mate.
            I thought they'd crept by unnoticed and I was actually quite pleased with that session.
            MadJack is threatening another moment of madness with attempts at 10 x 140 at some point in the near future (i.e. this week) and I was just dipping a toe in the water. I am fairly confident of maybe, probably 8 but after that all bets are off. I felt poorly for a week after the 15 x 120 but do think the CNS shock has healed and to the better now, so it might be worth the effort. Maybe.
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              RE: The Return of the jedi 14 September 2009 11:26 (permalink)
              Guage of intensity, or indeed insanity..


              Quoted Dante (AKA Doggcrapp)

              This is how I show someone the intensity they should be putting into every exercise and it really opens some eyes up quickly in the people I train.

              Either next quad workout or next time you dont feel like doing your normal leg workout, be true to yourself and take the number of plates you load up on the leg press for a hardcore 10 reps deep ---cut it exactly in half and do one set of 50 reps deep. So if your bragging to everyone that you can do 12 plates on each side for 10 then guess what your going to be doing - 6 a side for 50. And you know what-- everyone reading this can do the 50 reps, it just comes down to who has the most balls or not.

              You cannot lock your knees the whole set and you cannot rest your hands on your knees either. I try to get 25 first and then pause at the top (with knees slightly bent) and take 5 deep breaths and then get 10 more (5 deep breaths) and 5 more.(im at 40 now)..then the last 10 reps is pure tortuous hell...i usually do 3 reps (take 3 breaths)3 more reps, 3 more breaths, then 2 reps (3 deep breaths) and finally the last 2 reps=50 reps. Your legs will be absolutely destroyed and you better start stretching or walking the next day is going to be an adventure.

              My best ever was about 3 years ago I got 7 plates a side for 50 and i go deep (knees to armpits deep). The people that I have seen who cannot make it to 50 are people who dont have the mental fortitude to take pain and get pissed off or someone who starts to cramp. But youll learn alot from that one set, you will learn the intensity it takes to approach every set on every other bodypart and exercise you do.

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                RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 09:36 (permalink)
                Chest n tri's

                Flat Bench
                110kg x 7 +2 slight spot
                110kg x 6 + 2slight spot
                110kg x 5
                100 x 5 80 x 5 60 x 8

                Flat Dumbbell pre exhaust
                34kg x 15

                Incline Fly
                24kg x 12/10/8

                Chest Dips
                15/12/10

                Skull/Close Grip
                35kg x 8 each
                35kg x 8 x 6
                35kg x 6 x 6

                Some pulldowns but triceps burned out.


                Well, first time out on 110 and results were a bit less impressive than I'd hoped. Basically a good clue as to why I can't make the 140 on Thursdays. A 1rm calculator usually wants about 10 reps on 110 to equal 140 so I'm a few weeks away by that reckoning. Will drop down to 130 this week (probably) and try and get those reps up next Monday. Bit disappointed.
                Major effort on the dips but this fried me out a bit for the skulls/close grip, I always get intensely annoyed if I can't finish the reps on that
                ...especially when my training partner beats me

                edit: forgot to mention to Valhalla;
                50 reps? The guy is a lightweight I mean if he'd done 60 reps I might've been impressed
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                  RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 10:09 (permalink)
                  Nothing like getting angry during a workout! It gaurantees at least 1 great set after tempers flare.

                  I too have suffered with friend Tri's/Bi's following max efforts on Chest and back respectively. I cant wait unitl I have thge oppertunity to move arms to their own day.

                  Im impressed with your flat bench, impressive no's.

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                    RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 10:41 (permalink)
                    Valhalla

                    Im impressed with your flat bench, impressive no's.


                    Freudian slip reveals truth.
                    Not going to be impressed until that first set is at or close to double figures with no spotting.

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                      RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 11:10 (permalink)
                      Which 1rm calc are you using jedi?
                      I use the following formulae which has been pretty accurate for me.

                      'weight (kg)' x 'reps' x 0.0333 + 'weight' = 1rm

                      In your case, 110 X 10 X 0.0333 + 110 = 146.6kg
                      9 reps = 142.9kg
                      8 reps = 139.3kg


                      And so if these calcs are usually accurate with you, your closer than you think
                       
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                        RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 11:17 (permalink)
                        baaaahhhhhhhh, please dont be the guy who uses a calculator for a workout!!!

                        i beg you!!
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                          RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 11:21 (permalink)
                          For us mere mortals IB it's a handy way to ensure your making progress.
                           
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                            RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 11:31 (permalink)
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                            Which 1rm calc are you using jedi?
                            I use the following formulae which has been pretty accurate for me.

                            'weight (kg)' x 'reps' x 0.0333 + 'weight' = 1rm

                            In your case, 110 X 10 X 0.0333 + 110 = 146.6kg
                            9 reps = 142.9kg
                            8 reps = 139.3kg


                            And so if these calcs are usually accurate with you, your closer than you think


                            I use this one;
                            Clicketty
                            which has 9 x 110 as 139 which is still less than 140 so 10 x 110 for the win.
                            I prefer your numbers

                            IB I wouldn't say I use a calculator for workouts more I use it every now and again to try and work out why I can't press 140 on the bench. I've tried pretty much all the possible permutations but apparently, whichever way you figure it
                            ...you still have to actually lift the weight at some point


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                              RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 11:40 (permalink)
                              ok...

                              when i was a nipper i used to train with my dads workmate.
                              i struggled like a b1tch to get 60kg on bench and it wasn't shifting. So he decided to help out the next week by adding 70kg to the bar and making me attempt to press it.

                              Of course it required a lot of spotting assistance but as soon as the bar went up he smashed off the extra 10kg and made me go for the 60kg straight away.
                              Low and behold i was pressing the 60kg without help as it was a lightyear difference in weight.
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                                RE: The Return of the jedi 15 September 2009 12:09 (permalink)
                                I've already posted in no13's journal that I might switch to failing 150
                                Seriously though, there is something in it.

                                I also think 3 x 130 would be a very good indicator of readiness for 140.
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                                  RE: The Return of the jedi 16 September 2009 07:45 (permalink)
                                  This journal is becoming more and more like nightmare math homework........
                                   
                                  poor diet addled brain cannot possibly engage in such weighty convos.....so.....
                                   
                                  Good training Mr Jedi, keep it up, carry on.........
                                   
                                   
                                   
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                                    RE: The Return of the jedi 16 September 2009 09:02 (permalink)
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                                    Good training Mr Jedi, keep it up, carry on.........


                                    Ahhhh yes...well...errrrr...about that

                                    Training cancelled last night.
                                    The aches and pains situation was just getting beyond a joke and I made an executive decision to..........rest

                                    It was surprisingly hard work.



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                                      RE: The Return of the jedi 16 September 2009 11:22 (permalink)
                                      I think that was probbo a WISE move Mr Jedi.......
                                       
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                                        RE: The Return of the jedi 17 September 2009 10:23 (permalink)
                                        A WISE man would probably have extended the rest to last night as well.

                                        Shoulders
                                        Standing Press
                                        50kg x 12
                                        60kg x 9
                                        60kg x 7

                                        Hammer Front Raise
                                        16kg x 12/10/8

                                        Viking Lateral Raise
                                        14kg x 12/10/8 -just, they are deffo harder than conventional

                                        Rear Fly
                                        12kg x 12/10/8

                                        Wanted 10 x 60 standing press but just couldn't do the last rep due to shaking worse than Elvis in an earthquake.
                                        Maybe slightly unsettled by my ever increasing male fan-base. First the steam room eye-raping and then, last night, lad on the Smith machine piped up "You're massive you.." cue bewildered jedi not knowing where to look.

                                        Later, balance was restored when in the steam room hot* ladies gave me a round of 'woots' and 'kerrrikeys'




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