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The Return of the jedi-This is not Sparta. This. Is. Madness.(now incl. Race to 100kg OHP)

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Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 10 November 2009 08:27 (permalink)
Mate, that post about last nights training made me crease up!!!  I miss training with someone LOL!
 
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    Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 10 November 2009 09:59 (permalink)
    I've got two of 'em to deal with though
    SAFFA karate was me telling Jackman about feeling I'd bruised the bone, kind of clavicle meets acromion process (i.e. just behind my front delt) doing the front squats and was I meant to have the bar that far back. Ding stepped in to illustrate correct place for the bar;
    "You want it to sit just yee-er." whilst chopping meaty paw directly into the bruised area.
    FFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....I thought I was going to faint

    In other news my bulk attempt continues to go from bad to worse.
    Attempts to eat my way out of the stall in weight gain are not going well. I am now having to surrender on the milk front. I've gone regular-lactose reduced-goat's milk but now none of them seem to be agreeing with me so will have to go milk free for a bit. Fkksake, it's tricky to bulk when all you seem to be doing is eliminating edible foodgroups. On the other hand if digestive issues ease it might mean I get more out of the stuff I can eat.


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      Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 10 November 2009 10:12 (permalink)
      Did you say you suffered from coeliac mate?  Sorry if not but it seemed to ring a bell.

      Thought this might help you with some ideas
      http://www.mealplansite.com/medical-coeliac.aspx
       
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        Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 10 November 2009 10:12 (permalink)
        Bah... don't talk to me about digestive issues... half of the stuff I eat still comes out 30mins later, at least it's semi-solid now /win

        As for getting the calories in.... nuts! peanuts, hazels, almonds, peanut butter and so on.

        I usually put 30-50g of ground almonds into my shake at night, adds about another 300kcals alone. Maybe worth a try?

         
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          Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 10 November 2009 10:13 (permalink)
          Obviously you'd be eating more than the above though lol
           
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            Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 10 November 2009 14:29 (permalink)
            At WHAT point did I give you the impression I'd like to see MORE Jedi.....hmmmm? Boys.....tsk....

            Anyhoo....I miss training with someone else too, if only for the comedy value...although I get my Liz fix on a Friday, which gets me through the weekend!

            Perhaps I should advertise for candidates vis a vis partnerage?

             
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              Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 10 November 2009 17:19 (permalink)
              Rack, yes mate coeliac although technically undiagnosed as I won't do the 10 weeks back on gluten for the blood test and also it is confirmed by the toe eruption thing anyway. The diet sheet looked good mate.

              No.13 I started the nuts yesterday mate, great minds etc.
              'Course unkind folk may read more into the fact that I seem to tolerate both nuts and bananas conspicuously well.

              ChrissieG you mentioned 'vertically challenged', have you learnt nothing from Cheryl Cole's discourse on;
              "...too much of anything can make you sick."

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                Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 10 November 2009 17:57 (permalink)
                jedi

                No.13 I started the nuts yesterday mate, great minds etc.
                'Course unkind folk may read more into the fact that I seem to tolerate both nuts and bananas conspicuously well.




                 
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                  Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 11 November 2009 09:21 (permalink)
                  Back n bi's last night, no deadlifts as legs and back are still shattered from Friday legs. Hopefully this will pay off for powerlifting on Thursday

                  Chins
                  12-10-8
                  Still not hyper-extending at the bottom but now lowering slowly to just above that point then trying to hit an explosive rep. Felt quite good/hard.

                  Hammer Strength High Pulldown.
                  120kg x 12-10-8
                  Like this machine and have missed it to be honest.

                  Close Grip Pulldown
                  77kg x 12-10-8

                  Oly Curls
                  50kg x 9-7-5

                  Incline Db Curls
                  14kg x 14-12-10
                  First time I've thought about going heavier

                  Seated Curl
                  35kg x 11-9-7

                  Wanted to vid these as a form check. Turns out I'm doing them pretty good, much better than the last time they were video-ed. I do NOT feel the need to go any heavier on that though will just keeping working up the reps and form.

                  Calves
                  70kg x 12 x 8 sets Pumpppppp

                  We all did impromptu weigh-in after the workout and found I was a pound up!??? Just around 12-7 with my shoes on but last time I used the gym scales I was definitely a pound less. So there is still hope for the bulk. In fact, Jackman and Ding form an alliance and stage a boardroom coup of jedi industries, deciding that I shall continue doing what I'm doing re the lean bulk not just until Xmas but for some weeks after, or I hit 13stone in fairly good condition. I would be delighted to hit 13st in this condition but think it unlikely to be fair. Course a pound or two on each calf would take care of most of it.


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                    Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 11 November 2009 09:43 (permalink)
                    Daz like startling whites slightly take attention off near perfect form....and yes, think the weight was about right (going by facial expression)

                    Still at the calves....good show. Mine are positively WEEDY in comparison to ahem...some ladies...but am fearful of bulking them too much...as would really nause up my boot wardrobe as most of them barely fit me as it is!

                    Have mentioned the FABBA abba....challenge to Liz. mwuhahaha and can confirm that we WILL be videoing the spectacle on Friday. Of course, whether said video actually makes it to the screen is totally dependent (bearing in mind we are girlies) HOW we look whislt doing moves!! Although last weeks unladylike weighted hypers that made me look like Kate Bush on gear found their way on here!

                     
                     
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                      Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 11 November 2009 09:58 (permalink)
                      I'll try and video the lifted tucks tonight but it is indeed the kind of thing that has to visit the editing room before being released to the public. It is hard to balance making likelihood of crash landings quite high and then there is the question of the facial grimacing
                      They are ab-solutely the best thing for abs though.
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                        Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 11 November 2009 10:01 (permalink)
                        Yes, they are indeedy doody HARD......and after the Roman Porn ab move I have planned.....followed by Pass the Ball.....jeez....things will get errrr....interesting
                         
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                          Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 12 November 2009 01:21 (permalink)
                          jedi

                          Wanted to vid these as a form check.

                          yeees, of course you did.
                          and you posted the vid so we could "check your form" too.

                          what size are them thar gunz anyhow?


                          SQ:230 BP:160:) DL:250 OHP:120


                           
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                            Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 12 November 2009 09:12 (permalink)
                            I am shocked that you would doubt my scientific motives

                            If you compare to the first seated curl vid, the angle of the back of my upper arm remains fairly constant in this one whereas it was being driven back/more vertical on the negative portion of the rep in the first vid. Which is how it should be, preferably even stricter than in the latest vid.

                            I was planning more pics and vids to brighten up the place but you've made me go a bit shy now. Will dust off my 'burka for men'.
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                              Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 12 November 2009 09:44 (permalink)
                              Shoulders

                              Seated Dumbbell Press
                              3 sets upgraded from pitiful to merely poor

                              Standing Lateral Raise Superset
                              4 different pairs of 'bells -2 sets of

                              Rear Delt Standing Cable
                              peg3? x 12-12-12

                              Arnold Press/V-Press Superset
                              24kg/16kg
                              12/12
                              10/10
                              8/8



                              Abs
                              Dragon Flag
                              8-4-3

                              Lifted Bench Tucks
                              video may follow as no-one seem to know what they are

                              Getting a bit better on the seated dumbbellsthink the key to success is getting them balanced. Probably no coincidence that the least balanced arm is the dicky shoulder, it probably lacks some stabilisation from whatever structure is on the blink. The fact that they are getting better might be a good sign. I say 'better' but this is relative, Jackman and Ding are fairly close to killing that exercise due to extreme reps on the heaviest 'bell in the gym. It was a masterstroke to do the rear delts before the press superset as shoulder pump was immense. We all managed the 16's even so so, well....I think we all know what that means for next week.

                              It was awards night last night and I handed out the
                              Awarded to
                              The least
                              Worst
                              Athlete
                              This month ......trophy.
                              winner......M.Jackman.
                              The awards committee were impressed by his consistency, his refusal to succumb to the month long cold and managing to increase performance despite weekend benders. Good stuff, captured with great pic.
                              The race is on for November.


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                                Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 12 November 2009 15:05 (permalink)
                                I like the above vid jedi, im gonna have a go at doing the curls like that. I usually do them with my back against the wall so it is just my arms working but i think it would be better seated like that. My biceps never bloody grow!!
                                Nice facial expressions
                                 
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                                  Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 12 November 2009 16:10 (permalink)
                                  Damn I'm so disappointed in that video hahaha

                                  Nice work Jedi
                                   
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                                    Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 13 November 2009 00:02 (permalink)
                                    Cheers guys.

                                    Powerlifting tonight, really did not want to go. I know I say that a lot but have been suffering a lot of pain over the last couple of days (long, not to mention boring, story) and wasn't sure it was the best move. I just can't resist it though as it tends to be a good laugh.

                                    Squat.
                                    50-90-130-150
                                    170 x 3 belt n wraps (first flying solo next two with minimal spotter)
                                    Pleased with those. All with good depth and legs feel strong, will try 180 again(but deeper) next week.

                                    Bench
                                    50-70-110
                                    140 x 3 (minimal spotting)
                                    130paused x fail
                                    125paused x fail
                                    Again pleased, not much input on the 140 first couple more guided reps of the kind I was going to do on 130 so 140 was a bonus, especially as there was no sudden failure from the shoulder. Not too worried about the paused fails as I gave pretty much everything I had on the 140 set.

                                    Deadlift
                                    70-130-180
                                    210 x fail
                                    210 x fail
                                    Odd you might think going back for another go after a fail. However, the first x on 210 was just crazy. Never moved it but had the crazy notion of something being 'not quite right' rather than 'it's too heavy'. I sort of confirmed this by going again and making exactly the same ricketts of it However, my failure was not in vain as due to my incessant moaning about my setup Jackman notices something. He puts failure down to jedi attempting to lift both bar and jedi clear of the floor in direct contravention of law of gravity. Advises me to bin the Rippetoe setup method in favour of gripping bar with legs bent and shuffling in to place you want to lift/feel comfortable. Interesting. He fails his 240. However we were both not wanting to finish on a fail. I went back to 190 and tried his method and it felt goooooood. He lifted 200 and also felt a bit better, ....manuoevring/psyching kicks in as he thinks a shot at 230 might go. I tell him if he makes it, it is likely the sort of thing which will see him retain his A-TWAT trophy. He lifts it
                                    ...damn
                                    It is deemed that a success at 195 for me would also score good points and so in to bat I go again. Used his setup and once again it felt good and up she went. If I can just perrrrleeeeasse remember wtf I was doing next week I am really excited at the difference it might make. First real breakthrough on deads in months.
                                    Didn't keep me in front on trophy points though as he went back and redid his bench thus shading the session.



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                                      Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 13 November 2009 07:07 (permalink)
                                      Oooo just spotted Mr Jackmans linky ....hahahaha...there's ALWAYS two sides to every....story....soooo

                                      Oooooo I can see what I'll be reading in the hairsalon later this morning!

                                      Well done for attending powerlifting for the obviusly insane sesh even though in aggers, Mr Jedi. Shows mucho grit and determination.

                                      And.....thank you for yesterday......that fire escape was bloody nippy noodles....
                                       
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                                        Re:The Return of the jedi ..conditioning phase pix p104 13 November 2009 09:18 (permalink)
                                        ChrissieG

                                        And.....thank you for yesterday......that fire escape was bloody nippy noodles....


                                        jedi air traffic control talks another stricken plane to safe landing.

                                        Speaking of avoiding crash landings; here is the vid of the bench tucks and if you watch closely, I have a bit of a moment a few tucks in; disaster very narrowly averted by skillful pilot. I know they don't look like anything much but before anyone points and laughs, you should give them a try but prepare for ab pain and crash landings.


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