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ORIGINAL: chrismac

Lets hope it goes my way too!

You seem to have the dedication to ensure that it most certainly will.


Much better on chins tonight;
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Although pleased about that, it also seemed to confirm that I am on some kind of weird "One crap week/ One good week" cycle at the minute. Is this just me or has anyone else suffered? I guess it might be a symptom of over-training slightly and needing more than a week to recover fully.

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I've suffered the one good/one bad week thing. How is your sleep pattern mate?

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I've suffered the one good/one bad week thing. How is your sleep pattern mate?

Sleep has been pretty good just lately so I can't blame that.
The really weird thing is that it also seems to alternate between pushing and pulling so was down on reps with pressing this week but better on chins/curls which was the opposite to what happened last week.
Very strange.

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Strange indeed mate, you've stumpped me

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Think I must definitely have been overdoing it a bit just lately as felt pretty grim all weekend.
Last week's leg marathon was maybe a bite more than I could chew.

Was tempted to take a week off but think I'll just chop the volume back instead.

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Was tempted to take a week off but think I'll just chop the volume back instead.

Changed my mind about that and took the week off as I was starting to feel really crummy.

Back at it last night with a gentle run which took me 4 miles and had my knees giving out before the heart and lungs.

I'm changing things round again and will be doing at least a month on heavier weights/less volume and to accommodate that I am going to switch running to the 'off' days. Also, have some more medical tests coming up at the start of next month which I am not looking forward to and they are looming over me like some kind of (painful) tribal initiation TBH

Chest and tri's tonight.

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Very much enjoyed not having to run before and after training.

Enjoyed the reduction in volume too, completing 3 x 5 on 100kg with a teeny tiny dab from a spotter on the last set. Was also quite surprised to get reps on (steep)incline bench for 80kg as haven't been anywhere near that weight for a while. Finished the session nicely tired rather than completely exhausted.

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Very much enjoyed not having to run before and after training.

Enjoyed the reduction in volume too, completing 3 x 5 on 100kg with a teeny tiny dab from a spotter on the last set. Was also quite surprised to get reps on (steep)incline bench for 80kg as haven't been anywhere near that weight for a while. Finished the session nicely tired rather than completely exhausted.

its a good place to aim for mate, tbh if im exhausted in the true sense of the word i know im doing to much

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Finished the session nicely tired rather than completely exhausted.

its a good place to aim for mate, tbh if im exhausted in the true sense of the word i know im doing to much

I agree, I definitely think I've been overdoing it a bit.
I won't rule out upping the volume again at some point in the future but for now I'm going to keep it within the bounds of what I can comfortably recover from.

Further evidence of creeping decrepitude today in that my run was going very nicely until pain in my left knee surfaced again and this time it was a lot worse. Looks as though I am going to have to bite the bullet and try some knee supports. I was hoping it wouldn't come to this as it just adds to the general air of being held together by bits of string and sticking plaster.

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Back and bi's tonight and continued the theme of heavy with less volume.
I know it is early days but it is definitely suiting me better.

Did chins super slow with widest possible grip as I chickened out of adding any weight. 3 x 7
Heavy lat. pulldowns for the first time in a long time and form was pretty good.
Not having to do a monster pyramid meant that 40kg was a bit light on E-Z bar curls so up to 45kg next week.
Alternate curls on 50lb dumbbells also felt good.

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Medical tests finished and they were not nice
I didn't cry in front of the sexy nurse though



Back to training last night with bench, which went better than expected really. Three sets of 5 at 100kg felt easy enough to contemplate upping the middle set next week, although might consolidate for one more week. Will look to up the steep incline bench to 90kg at around the same time, although 80kg was back to feeling heavy last night. Also did some dumbbell pressing on shallower incline and am stuck at 70lb-ers not because I couldn't press more, just that I couldn't get anything heavier into position.
Weed.

Triceps getting stronger, 60kg close-grip bench felt easy and am now adding 40lb to the stack for pressdowns.

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Running tonight was sheer bliss.
Not one twinge, ache or minor tingle.
Was like being ten years younger and all thanks to my new knee supports. I wish I hadn't been quite such a t!t about the whole thing and bought some sooner could've saved myself a lot of pain and aggravation.
I got the open/peep-hole bra type and they certainly seem to have stabilised the patella.

However, at first, it did feel a bit like wearing;

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Three sets of 5 at 100kg felt easy enough to contemplate upping the middle set next week, although might consolidate for one more week.

good call, I think I'll do the same.
105 was fine, but 107.5 felt far too heavy last week.

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Three sets of 5 at 100kg felt easy enough to contemplate upping the middle set next week, although might consolidate for one more week.

good call, I think I'll do the same.
105 was fine, but 107.5 felt far too heavy last week.

A good call as long as I don't go into a period of prolonged consolidation.
Can't-be-@rsed-syndrome as I believe it is more commonly known.

Got a bit of a pain in my left shoulder after doing close-grip the other day. Think I may have been gripping a bit too close (i.e. hands touching). Am I allowed to space hands either side of the middle 'gnurling' on the Oly bar and still call it close-grip?

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hands touching is far too close.
I do it hand half on half off the inside of the gnurling, but that's on a stadard bar.
anything up to shoulder width still counts, as long as you keep your elbows in.

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hands touching is far too close.
I do it hand half on half off the inside of the gnurling, but that's on a stadard bar.
anything up to shoulder width still counts, as long as you keep your elbows in.

OOooopsy. I think I may be doing 'em wrong.
I had hands close and arms trying to be under the bar, elbows out, big triangle kind of fashion.
No wonder my shoulder hurts
Are you saying I should have elbows positioned feet side of the bar arms more in to body. A bit like powerlifters are supposed to bench-press? I can see how this might save my shoulders from some pressure. Will probably work the long head of the tricep more than the outside one. Will give it a go as it probably couldn't do any worse damage than that which wot I was doing.

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Really enjoyed training again tonight.
3 x 8 widest possible grip on chins with gymnast like form, a beauty to behold.
As heavy as I have ever managed on the lat pulldown too, despite being a stone lighter
....which made for some very interesting balancing arrangements in order to get the weight down for rep 1.
45kg curls and 3 sets on the 50lb dumbbells

Attracted my first "What are you on?" inquiry so am starting to get the steroid boys a bit rattled

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Are you saying I should have elbows positioned feet side of the bar arms more in to body.

your upper and lower arms should stay parallel to the line of your body, or as near as is comfortable.
and it's knurling.
damn your jedi mind control tricks making me spell wrong

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It may only be knurling on your bar but I assure you ours are gnurled.

Gnurling: (n) (contraction; Good knurling, G'knurling, Gnurling).
Knurling of the highest quality. Most often that performed freehand by a Master Knurler.

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2nd week of my invented shoulder workout containing no lateral or front raises due to my shoulder being sore.
That said it all went pretty well, have found some interesting movements which I actually think are isolating the delts more.
Sadly they also make me look like a crazy mainac

No 1's and 2's on bench as I still felt sore from Tuesday.
Am actually starting to enjoy shoulder pressing now which is very unusual.

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Ran (as opposed to jogged) about 4 miles today involving one short break.
I think I stopped to break up the monotonous boredom as much as anything

The knee supports are fab
Not only no pain during the run they must also heat up the joint and encourage circulation as, for about half an hour afterwards, my knees have this warm, glowing feeling just like a Ready Brek kid.

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Legs for the first time in a couple of weeks tonight and was planning on just easing myself back in.
However, knees felt so good in the new neoprene that I pressed on a bit.
Leg press was good with 3 easy sets at 270kg.
Then worked my way back down to bottom of the stack on the hack squat machine

Knees felt much more stable and were pain-free throughout
...I may lose my chance for a blue parking badge at this rate

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good news on the knee front
what make of supports do you have?

...I may lose my chance for a blue parking badge at this rate

you may lose your excuse for not squatting at this rate

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good news on the knee front
what make of supports do you have?

...I may lose my chance for a blue parking badge at this rate

you may lose your excuse for not squatting at this rate

YIKES!!
I've been rumbled.




The knee supports are made by, whisper it quietly, the chav's favourite, Lonsdale.
The main attraction was the fact that they were half-price and also that they are "open" supports which you don't seem to find in the cheapo range quite so often. Cost me less than a tenner for both.

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Dont put yourself down - your curling is impressive mate!

I cant for the life of me do any jogging any more - I used to do it last year over the forrestry [I live on the corner of it] but had shooting pains through my shin and knee joint after a month. So I am strictly non impact now sitting on a spinner [like a big girl!]

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ORIGINAL: chrismac

Dont put yourself down - your curling is impressive mate!

It's not bad but about to chase it up into being a bit better.
I'm aiming to get back to 50kg inc. the Oly bar and 45kg plus the E-Z bar.


Chest tonight and the 3 x 5 on 100kg really flew up, had to rein myself in and not get tempted to up the middle set. Stuck to the plan though and will be better placed to do a bit more next week. Managed to pick up a bit of skill at getting dumbbells in place a bit better so did 80lb-ers on shallow incline.

Did some of daKensta's close gripping and found it much more comfortable on the shoulder. Will add a bit of weight there next week too. Triceps are leaving biceps in the shade at the minute.

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Legs have just totally siezed up on me today

Just really don't think I will be able to run so will have to do a long walk instead.
Oh the irony, buy neoprene supports which cure your knee pain and then cripple your legs so you can't run.
Genius at work

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Is it muscular or joint mate thats the problem?

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Is it muscular or joint mate thats the problem?

It is just totally self-inflicted muscle-soreness from Monday.
I know some people would see this as a good thing and sign of a successful workout but my plan at the minute is only to be doing what I can comfortably recover from. Hopefully I will have learned my lesson, I think I just got carried away with the new bionic legs.

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Good chins again, 3 x 8 super controlled form widest possible grip.
Managed the same heavy back weights as last week but with better form.
Up to 45kg plus the E-Z bar for one set of curls but then had to retreat back to 40kg. It was do-able with reasonable form though so will try and get 2 sets on that weight next week.

Can I do shoulders in time to see the England-South Africa match tomorrow?
Given that everyone seems to do shoulders on Friday and will no doubt all have the same cunning plan to sneak in a bit earlier, it is doubtful.

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E-Z bar

whaaat?!
I thought we agreed that, that which shall not be named (although quoted), was evil.
may the force have mercy on your wrists/forearms.
and your o'erweening pride for performing such a manoeuvre.
hissssss!

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E-Z bar

whaaat?!
I thought we agreed that, that which shall not be named (although quoted), was evil.
may the force have mercy on your wrists/forearms.
and your o'erweening pride for performing such a manoevre.
hissssss!

It started with a bit of close-grip and then crept its crooked way back into my workout.

I got a bit fed up with it and my bicep workout in general last night so changes are in the offing.
I may do a period of atonement on the preacher bench.

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Radford lovin, here as requested!

I haven't had chance to read back through your updates, so won't lie and say that I have. But will be catching up soon, hope all is well.

Hello Lisa, lovely to see you back.

I am mostly held together by various neoprene supports at the moment
Am just a couple of weeks into a heavier routine and enjoying it much more than the high-rep stuff.

By not lying about not reading the updates you reveal that you are still Lisa, a girly girl.
Ian would've lied without blinking.

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Gave the shoulder workout a miss tonight as have been feeling sore all week.
I'm glad I have that as an excuse rather than I stayed in to watch the rugby
Good grief.

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Mine are also 5000mg but I was hoping to get away with one a day ...as I am tight as well as arthritic.

where did you get them/how many/how much?
I'm all out

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where did you get them/how many/how much?
I'm all out

I got them from the shelf of the local chemist ...impulse purchase
They cost a fortune and for only 30 tabs.
Useless at the rate you chomp.

However, I normally get my supplements from healthydirect and see that they are now in stock there;

http://www.healthydirect.com/product/0259/d.jsf

the only trouble with them is they are not the fastest on delivery.
If you can go cold turkey for a week to ten days I reckon they are your best bet.

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Ran the same 4 miler that I did last Sunday and found it much harder going today
Can't blame the knees as they are still pain free just felt a bit unfit.
I think I may have had some sort of virus this week so I'll put it down to that.

...course there is also the fact that my "running" which was everyday and then slipped to every non-training day, now seems to be congealing around a Sunday morning splutter. Will try a bit harder next week.

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Feckin' legs are killing me.
Think perhaps I hadn't fully recovered from last week and as soon as it got heavy on the leg press they were seizing up on me. Was truly painful on the hack squats and couldn't really finish the leg extensions. Normally when they get like this during a session I just do a few minutes on the bike and it frees them off enough to carry on.
Not tonight.
All that did was make 'em burn even worse and ended up doing Frankenstein walk back to car.


On the bright side...
at least I managed to spell seizing correctly this week.

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