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The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
18 November 2009 14:46
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Ok ive just came to this forum and i see allot of people using Arimidex for no reason.... when there is a far superior product for the job most are wanting it to do. Here is info i have taken from my posts Arimidex is not very well suited to men cycling. It has a poor profile for lowering E2 in men and because it's competitive it will cause a rebound when you stop. You should use Aromasin it has a much better profile and will not cause a rebound, It has a half life of 27 hours so 12.5mg/day is a good dose to start with. Arimidex is better at inhibiting sulfatase than it is E2. the worry for the most part is E2 (estradiol). Also Arimidex competes with testosterone for the aromatase as a way of inhibiting the conversion you would get from aromatase. Because it competes and leaves the aromatase alive, so when you come off you get a flood of estrogen, or rebound. Aromasin does not compete. It's suicidal. It attaches to the aromatase and kills it. In doing so it does a much better job of reducing E2 AND there is no rebound when you come off of it because it's killed the aromatase.
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
18 November 2009 15:01
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One thing to remember is aromasin doesnt cut the mustard for everyone when controlling estrogen, i know afew people who have got gyno while running aromasin and not when using adex, despite what studies say some users say adex is a stronger ai, everybody is different at the end of the day. One thing i personally believe in is that body fat levels play a major part in estrogen sensitivity/ upregulation of estrogen receptors.
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
18 November 2009 15:11
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ditto arnold. aromasin even at 25mg a day doesn`t help me if i`m running a heavy cycle. Pharma adex or letro is my only reliable option in that case.
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
18 November 2009 15:26
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well im considering a very novice cycle of just 30 mg ed dbol with novaldex pct, should i consider arimidex or aromasin to curb bloat? sorry to hijack the thread
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
18 November 2009 15:34
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another thing to remember is that some people dont tolerate certain drugs ,aromasin makes me feel ill whereas im ok on adex
i used to have a handle on life but it broke
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
18 November 2009 16:16
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All i know is i used adex to combat prog. gyno for the 1st time last cycle - and it worked!
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
18 November 2009 16:20
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My objective wasnt to critsise, I agree what most of you are saying but if Aromasin isn’t working then you should move up to Letro which is much stronger but by using either Arimdex or Letro you will be interfering with your gains in some form as the testostorone will be fighting for the receptors. Aromasin will not hinder gains so should always be run alongside a cycle to help keep estrogen levels down, we don’t wana destroy estrogen completely by using letro or arimadex as estrogen plays an important role in many physiological aspects IMO Arnold- i totaly agree with the BF thing this is why no matter how many AI's you take if your diet and other things are not in check you could run into problems
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
19 November 2009 11:11
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Arimidex is not very well suited to men cycling. It has a poor profile for lowering E2 in men and because it's competitive it will cause a rebound when you stop. Arimidex is better at inhibiting sulfatase than it is E2. the worry for the most part is E2 (estradiol). Also Arimidex competes with testosterone for the aromatase as a way of inhibiting the conversion you would get from aromatase. Because it competes and leaves the aromatase alive, so when you come off you get a flood of estrogen, or rebound. Basicly in normal terms - you only have so many receptors Arimidex attaches its self to the receptor and bounds it for a length of time but doesnt kill it, so when you come off it you get a flood of estrogen - Aromasin isnt competitive, thats why it should always be 1st choice Then if not working, use Letro starting doses really low and increase every 5 days if gyno hasnt gone away, once you feel it is away cruise for another 5 days ( you dont want really low estrogen which letro causes as there will be no WOOD and your lipids will be all over the place, and you may loose some strength IMO ) hope that helped pal!
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
19 November 2009 13:04
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^^^ yea like i said everything does vary from person to person especially if you are hypo gyno prone, you know what works best for you im simply stating ''what Adex does'' and how it can cause a rebound hence why you have to take more drugs to combat that... have you ever tried higher dose Aromasin?
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
19 November 2009 14:26
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No probs pal, It really depends whats more important to your needs/goals/finance but doesnt mean its best practice, So does it still work out cheaper since you have to use a serm to combat the rebound off the letro/adex? then the serm could also have adverse effects on prolactin/progesterone which can lead to gyno have you always been gyno prone?
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
19 November 2009 15:06
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Would you not just taper down though instead, this way no need for a serm?
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Re:The misuse of Arimidex (why?)
19 November 2009 16:34
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Intresting GymJam! have you tried blast/cruise method to avoid multiple PCT's per year???
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