Timings of cycles Bulk now then cut for the summer ??

Hi, I have done a few PH cycles in the past EPI solo then EPI and Tren,
 
Now im looking to bulk up a bit but making sure its good quility gains so is it worth doing and all out bulk now Dzine, SD etc then maybe something nearer the summer to cut,
 
Or is it worth just running a good quality lean gains stack maybe the ripped stack or hard body stack from dragon, now and just keeping diet and training really tight untill the summer, aim is to get back into rugby in September so want to add a bit of weight, i guess everyones aim without the fat.
 
I have alwasy used dragon and really rate them so ideally something i can sourse from them i know that Pmag might be in the pipeline so maybe stack this with LMG possibly,
 
Any thoughts and suggestions are greatly received
 
Many thanks
 
Nick

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Hi, I have done a few PH cycles in the past EPI solo then EPI and Tren,

Now im looking to bulk up a bit but making sure its good quility gains so is it worth doing and all out bulk now Dzine, SD etc then maybe something nearer the summer to cut,

Or is it worth just running a good quality lean gains stack maybe the ripped stack or hard body stack from dragon, now and just keeping diet and training really tight untill the summer, aim is to get back into rugby in September so want to add a bit of weight, i guess everyones aim without the fat.


I have alwasy used dragon and really rate them so ideally something i can sourse from them i know that Pmag might be in the pipeline so maybe stack this with LMG possibly,

Any thoughts and suggestions are greatly received

Many thanks

Nick

Go with a bulking cycle and get some size on then hopefully keep some gains going into next season. 
Its hard bulking when your playing , I know, I was blowing out of my arse last weekend !

I reckon you should grab either of the following:
* All Out Mass stack
* Mass-58
* M1T & Pro-One
* SD & Tren
 
Any of those will bring about rapid mass in under 28 days.
Bulk now... then use Ripped 58 or Hard Body Stack in the summer while upping cardio and keeping your diet in a calorie deficit. Thats a good plan...

Personaly, i think you need 3-4 months to cut, i doubt there will be enough time to bulk then cut for summer, as bulking then going into pct and then going into a cut will be pointless and ul loose everything
 
if you started your bulk say tmoz for 4 weeks ur gna finish march 10th.
another 4 weeks of pct april 10th
then you should maintain them gains for a month.....your now in may....its warm in may.
what start cutting 10th may its been a month and unless your hammering cardio twice a day and on a perfect diet ur not gna see much in a month.....
Its now june......and you look like a weasel coz youve gone into keto and now weight 12 st lol
I dunno what u like to look like on a cut but personaly i like to be 6-8% 13.5 stone, on the beach.
 
Personally its easier to manage and build on a lean frame
IE: get to 6-8%bf now.....and then lean bulk, if you put abit of fat on go on a 2week cut ext ext.
 
Long cuts and bulks are pointless to me unless your on alot of gear, t3/clen to keep fat off.
Long bulks and cuts = ending up pretty much where you started
 
Just my 2 cents.
 
Maz
 

Agree with Maz on the timing, its going to be difficult to get a nice bulk and cut (both on anabolics) in time for summer seeing as its now Feb.

Amen....i made the mistak lastyear of starting the cut aroun march
Way to close to summer and ended up looking shiiite sorta rippedish but abit fat
Not this year though!!!
i spose this game is all about learning from your mistakes though.
and il never bulk again without having visisable abz throughout
 
(again im in the game for purely aesthetic reasons and self discapline, to eat well train hard get up stupidly early and do cardio.....good for your life i feel, but i dont really care about strength anymore currently only benching 100kg and couldnt care less ahaha)
 
Maz

Cheers for the advice guys, its kinda what i was thinking ok im not huge but them in not a rake either im 6.2 tall and 89 kg with BF around 12%
 
Im now thinking of Dragons ripped 60mg halo 100 tren and 24epi
 
This will sure help me gain a bit more mass but at the same time not add to much fat, i can then keep diet really in check and just gain very gradually and steady rather then a lot then try and cut down loosing everything