Tren And Test

Hello there im about to take a course of tren 75mg and test enth! i get bad gyno can i take tamoxifen whilst on the course and still get all the gains ? thanks people 

First you'll need a A.I.not nolvadex(except for pct) fella,what type of tren have you got,ace needs shooting eod/ed so  if it's enanthate 75mg per week is too low,needs to be about 300mg per week.

Adam Bates


Hello there im about to take a course of tren 75mg and test enth! i get bad gyno can i take tamoxifen whilst on the course and still get all the gains ? thanks people 

should i jab monday,wed and friday then ? and what a.i should i be looking at getting? can you give me some advice on what pct i should take after my course? i get really bad gyno and i have just come off of a 4weeks dbol of 40mg a day ? im trying to learn mate and need some good advice if u can help i will be very thankful 

what are the esters you've got?

tamodex 10mg, my tren is 75mg per mil and its cyclohexylmethylcarbonate, trenbolone base green packet  

So you'll be shooting 1ml test e/75mg tren on Monday & Friday,wednesday tren a 75mg.Can you get hold of Arimidex,as really if your gyno prone it's not worth starting the cycle with the armidex in place.
How many niolvadex have you got to hand???
What strength is the test e.

400 test pal, i can get it but not till the 17th feb, im in the army and based in germany, i have 45 tabs of tamoxifen, will that last me till i get in the uk? and can it do the job till feb? my problem was and is i didnt do enough research i was an idiot and now i have learned from my mistakes i need to learn and better myself in this, just dont wanna lose the strength i have at the moment. 

Tamoxifen works very different to AI's it simply floods the receptors in the chest so that the oestrogen can't bind to them. There is also a chance that the progesterone receptors can be up-regulated helping the onset of gyno as opposed to stopping it.

Ai inhibit/reduce the aromatisation of the test to oestrogen preventing anything from developing in the first place, these IMO are better for nor-19 steroids (tren, nandrolone).

You realise that tren will impact your ability to do cv! Not something I would think is a good idea if your in the army mate, if you haven't got the right meds to run with the tren I suggest you leave it till your back in the uk and have everything you need for the tren cycle.

I'm not sure they will give you a skirt or light duties if you grow boobies in the Army!

Minger

Nolvadex at 20mg per day from start should offer you protection anyway,I just prefer to run a A.I. Whilst using tren and use the nolvadex for PCT.only.(just my preference).
So 800mg test e per week
225mg tren(it is acetate right)
20mg nolvadex per day-from start.
What about PCT/HCG for after cycle??? What's your plan!

It's gonna be touch & go with only 45 tabs of nolvadex fella also you'll run out before the 17th feb,as minger suggested why not just run the test at 800mg till ya get back to blighty (live & learn) fella,get all the bits together and have a really good cycle next time???

thanks boys, well can u give me some advice on what to get in feb to bring back with me ? i wanna put some lean mass on but be really strong! like can u tell me the things im looking for ? what shall i fully buy so i have everything i need also with ur help i can start planning things now! very thankful lads and cheers for ur help! supporting our troops :) 

When running the test e fella,a lot of like to run it for 12+weeks???
Tren run for 10weeks
Defo get a tub of of arimidex-half or full tab per day from start of cycle-till end.
Cos of the cardio aspect mate consider using equipoise instead of tren???
PCT-nolvadex you'll need enough tablets for 60mg-week1,40mg- week2,20mg-week3-4.
Also consider using HCG(sort the wackers out)if needed.
But picking a eq/test cycle would prob suit you better consider your in the ARMY fella.

thanks mate means alot to me. if i need any advice in the future is it ok to pm u ?

I always err on the take as little as you need for a ai, arimidex at 1/2 eod has suited me.

I currently pop 1/2 a letro once a week, if I suspect the onset of gyno I'll up the dose accordingly. Remember if you completely nuke the oestrogen you will inhibit your gains, you need it to grow!

Good luck on your cycle mate.

Minger

Once the a-dex is in your system(week or so), you can reduce dosage (to eod)if you feel it's controlling things as minger has mentioned,I'm just being cautious as you have already said your gyno prone.
Be safe and pick a less harsh compound to go with the test,you'll still get the lean gains/strength from the eq as opposed tren a.
Good luck fella!!!

thanks lads