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Tridenosen Injection - Nature Vet (Australia) - Info Needed

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2010/01/02 11:54:22 (permalink)

Tridenosen Injection - Nature Vet (Australia) - Info Needed

A lot of hype regarding Tridenosen Injection is currently doing the rounds in SA, and being in a position of having a lot of contact with pr rugby players that swear by the product due to the fact that doping is not a probelm with this specific product, it opens quite an interesting discussion.  

It is now a standard solution (vasidolator) to be used as a 'bridging' product between cycles for non pro athletes training for social acceptance etc.  It seems to be very similiar to Kynesolen in the solution its made up from.  Each ml contains the following:

Adenosine triphosphate (ATP) 2 mg
Nicotinic acid 20 mg
Magnesium aspartate 20 mg
Potassium aspartate 20 mg
Di-isopropylamine dichloroacetate (DADA) 50 mg
Sodium selenite 500 μg



My questions regarding the product are as follow:
  1. With the low concentration of ATP (2mg/mL), what would be the ideal dosage for a 90-95kg male who wants to use this product between cycles (keeping in mind that literature suggests that inj. ATP only has a half life of up to 12 hrs and is active within 20min from injection) be?
  2. What can be expected from the product (e.g. great muscle pumps during weight sessions/extra energy (ATP)/fat loss/lean muscle gains/etc?) I apologise for stereo typical question, but not a lot of literature out there on the specific product?
  3. Please visit the website from the vet pharmaceutical manufacturing the product at http://www.naturevet.com.au/prodetails.php?pid=108
I will appreciate any feedback on the product regarding expectations/dosage/etc as I mentioned there is not a lot of literature about the product.

P.S. Keep in mind, this is not the BS Tridenosen H tabs thats all over the show on the net!

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Tk


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    Re:Tridenosen Injection - Nature Vet (Australia) - Info Needed 2010/01/02 14:35:33 (permalink)
    Gonna have to pass on this one. I am a medic and use adenosine to stop a heart that has SVT or supraventricular tachycardia or a heart beat of 180 or higher being uncontrolled by the AV node. When given IV push it stops the heart for aprox 6 seconds most of the time the heart restarts itself. Most of the time! This is something that I would pass on with any heart problems for sure. Not worth it at all IMO.

    When administered intravenously, adenosine causes transient heart block in the AV node. This is mediated via the A1 receptor, inhibiting adenylyl cyclase, reducing cAMP and so causing cell hyperpolarization by increasing outward K+ flux. It also causes endothelial dependent relaxation of smooth muscle as is found inside the artery walls. This causes dilatation of the "normal" segments of arteries; i.e. where the endothelium is not separated from the tunica media by atherosclerotic plaque. This feature allows physicians to use adenosine to test for blockages in the coronary arteries, by exaggerating the difference between the normal and abnormal segments.
    In individuals suspected of suffering from a supraventricular tachycardia (SVT), adenosine is used to help identify the rhythm. Certain SVTs can be successfully terminated with adenosine.[4] This includes any re-entrant arrhythmias that require the AV node for the re-entry (e.g., AV reentrant tachycardia (AVRT), AV nodal reentrant tachycardia (AVNRT). In addition, atrial tachycardia can sometimes be terminated with adenosine.
    Adenosine has an indirect effect on atrial tissue causing a shortening of the refractory period. When administered via a central lumen catheter, adenosine has been shown to initiate atrial fibrillation because of its effect on atrial tissue. In individuals with accessory pathways, the onset of atrial fibrillation can lead to a life-threatening ventricular fibrillation.
    Fast rhythms of the heart that are confined to the atria (e.g., atrial fibrillation, atrial flutter) or ventricles (e.g., monomorphic ventricular tachycardia) and do not involve the AV node as part of the re-entrant circuit are not typically converted by adenosine. However, the ventricular response rate is temporarily slowed with adenosine in such cases.
    Because of the effects of adenosine on AV node-dependent SVTs, adenosine is considered a class V antiarrhythmic agent. When adenosine is used to cardiovert an abnormal rhythm, it is normal for the heart to enter ventricular asystole for a few seconds. This can be disconcerting to a normally conscious patient, and is associated with angina-like sensations in the chest.

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    Re:Tridenosen Injection - Nature Vet (Australia) - Info Needed 2010/01/02 14:40:52 (permalink)
    Sounds fun

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    Re:Tridenosen Injection - Nature Vet (Australia) - Info Needed 2010/01/02 15:26:34 (permalink)
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    lol, great post by medicvoodoo. I would give it a miss personally. I wouldn`t mess with vet meds i wasn`t 100% sure about.
     
    If your simply after more energy/big pumps ect i would simply supplement with a .no product and creatine or something similair. maybe not as effective but a lot safer.
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    Re:Tridenosen Injection - Nature Vet (Australia) - Info Needed 2010/01/02 20:04:06 (permalink)
    nothing iv ever used has been safe lol ... mite have a look at that satuff mi self :)
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