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Vitamin D for colds and flu

Ive been taking these for a while, and have had more colds lately than ever :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38988982
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 08:32:26 (permalink)
    I use sunbeds can't say it helps that much.

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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 09:12:01 (permalink)
    I go through phases, My conclusion is that these things make very little difference to your ability to repel diseases like colds.   I think the longest I went without a cold was when I binned the idea of Vitamins/Echinecea and even supplements, and was just eating lots of good food and living a healthy lifestyle. 
     
    On the subject of Cold remedies though, one thing I spent my whole life laughing at, but recently have found to "work" is ..... Chicken Soup (Jewish Penicillin!)   I recently had this bloody awful cough, cold thing, and the symptoms were so frustrating that when my friend suggested Chicken Soup, I thought "Well, what have I got to lose?"   I tried it and was amazed! Symptoms killed almost dead for a good couple of hours!  
      Now, whether it is "jewish chicken magic", just the steam from the hot liquid or what,  I don't know and don't care, although I have to say it doesn't seem to work with any other soup or hot drinks.    
         I totally understand the sceptism, but all I can say is try it.  You might be surprised. 
       
     
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 09:34:30 (permalink)
    Chicken soup - the Jewish cure for cancer!! When I'm ill it's awesome. If you're really struggling you can water it down (half soup / half water). In a distant second place is minestrone soup. Both are light enough to drink it easily and give you a little pick-you-up.

     
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 09:57:02 (permalink)
    When i worked nights all i could eat was chicken soup, we were known as the "chicken soup brigade"

    During that time, never had a cold

    Had to be Heinz tho
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 10:02:12 (permalink)
    I take capsules of liquid vitamin D3 - about 10,000 UI per day. 
     
    Had two bad colds since Christmas!
     
    Although I hear that the best way to take vitamin D3 is through a liquid dropper as it is absorbed into your throat?
     
    I did try this for a while, but its expensive and like most supplements, you have no idea if its working or not:
    http://amzn.to/2laJTjq
     
    I think you're supposed to take it with vitamin K2 too as well for maximum effect: https://examine.com/supplements/Vitamin+D/
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 10:04:42 (permalink)
    I haven't had a cold for over 2 years.  Used to catch them all the time.
    I put it down to either the large quantities of veg, oily fish or natural herbs that I was eating.
     
    Then, on doing some research on the effects of BCAA supplementation on DOMS, I stumbled across an article on PubMed.  The study was on endurance cyclists which tried to study the recovery benefits of BCAAs.  In addition to the improved recovery and reduced fatigue, they also found that those on the BCAAs did not suffer from off season colds, whereas the ones on a placebo did (endurance athletes are notorious for getting colds).  The article stated that they would like to conduct further research into this area...
     

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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 10:11:30 (permalink)
    Here's one;
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4272512/
     
    The conclusion reads;

    Immunonutrition for clinical applications to sports activities represents an emerging area for health, especially regarding supply of proteins and amino acids, since they are required for the optimal synthesis and concentration of a variety of immune related proteins (including cytokines and antibodies). Amino acids will feed into and impact on the regulation of key metabolic pathways in immune cells and the cellular oxidative stress response. At the anti-inflammatory molecular level, new findings have been reported such as enhancement of HSP levels, NO synthesis, and GSH/GSSG regulation, all essential for optimal immune function and recovery from intense periods of training.



     

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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 11:36:13 (permalink)
    Placebo and Nocebo are a real and powerful phenomena I believe.

    It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal. 
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 21:50:32 (permalink)
    Doesn't Vitamin D3 particularly have other benefits too though? Some wild claims though, some saying it raises test lol
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 22:46:46 (permalink)
    Just be careful with the dosing of D3. Some people's stomachs struggle to handle over 1000iu. Taking K2 MK775 for helps with absorption and effectiveness of D3
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/16 23:48:53 (permalink)
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    I haven't had a cold for over 2 years.  Used to catch them all the time.
    I put it down to either the large quantities of veg, oily fish or natural herbs that I was eating.
     
    Then, on doing some research on the effects of BCAA supplementation on DOMS, I stumbled across an article on PubMed.  The study was on endurance cyclists which tried to study the recovery benefits of BCAAs.  In addition to the improved recovery and reduced fatigue, they also found that those on the BCAAs did not suffer from off season colds, whereas the ones on a placebo did (endurance athletes are notorious for getting colds).  The article stated that they would like to conduct further research into this area...
     


    Interesting, don't most whey proteins contain all your bcaas however? Just curious
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/17 00:08:13 (permalink)
    Bangs head off wall.


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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/17 08:16:31 (permalink)
    Properly processed whey protein (some ways are harsher than others) is supposed to benefit our immune system. Plus, of course, the quote above says 'protein and...'

     
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/17 09:49:36 (permalink)
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    Doesn't Vitamin D3 particularly have other benefits too though? Some wild claims though, some saying it raises test lol

    I was advised to take it by my consultant due to poor bone healing in my foot.  He said that about 90% of the athletes he deals with suffer from D3 deficiency resulting in poor bone healing.
     
    As Nicky p said, I suffered from quite severe bloating when on the higher dosage (can't remember how high) but I'm fine with 1000iu.  I'll be doing 500iu in the summer...

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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/17 10:30:18 (permalink)
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    crooks
    Doesn't Vitamin D3 particularly have other benefits too though? Some wild claims though, some saying it raises test lol

    I was advised to take it by my consultant due to poor bone healing in my foot.  He said that about 90% of the athletes he deals with suffer from D3 deficiency resulting in poor bone healing.
     
    As Nicky p said, I suffered from quite severe bloating when on the higher dosage (can't remember how high) but I'm fine with 1000iu.  I'll be doing 500iu in the summer...


    If you are taking D3 for bone strength/healing I would highly recommend you take K2 as derived from menaqinone 7 along side your D3. There's loads of studies to support its use.
    post edited by Nicky p - 2017/02/17 10:36:42
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/17 14:50:24 (permalink)
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    As Nicky p said, I suffered from quite severe bloating when on the higher dosage (can't remember how high) but I'm fine with 1000iu.  I'll be doing 500iu in the summer...




     
    I'm a bloated wreck atm anyway, nobody will notice! I've seen test booster kits with a big dose of D3 included
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/17 15:06:17 (permalink)
    http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thorne-Research-Vitamin-D-K2-Liquid-Dietary-Supplement-with-D3-and-K2-1-fl-/311787796499?hash=item4898003813%3Ag%3Amk4AAOSwo4pYiTVh&_trkparms=pageci%253A7caaf2c7-f522-11e6-8a05-74dbd1800b0e%257Cparentrq%253A4c9b101b15a0a2af664dd8f5fff43f92%257Ciid%253A1

    ^^is what I would go for. One of the best and you can play with the dosage to suit
    post edited by Nicky p - 2017/02/17 15:09:06
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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/17 15:19:29 (permalink)
    High dose Vitamin D keeps popping up in various studies, and is the only supplement recommended on the nutritional training I've been on - and that's mostly on the basis we don't get enough moderate sun exposure. 

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    Re: Vitamin D for colds and flu 2017/02/17 15:53:28 (permalink)
    crooks
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    As Nicky p said, I suffered from quite severe bloating when on the higher dosage (can't remember how high) but I'm fine with 1000iu.  I'll be doing 500iu in the summer...

    I'm a bloated wreck atm anyway, nobody will notice! I've seen test booster kits with a big dose of D3 included


    I actually looked pregnant!

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