I'm just about to start a cycle of epi and tren both purchased from Chappell labs. I have already bought A PCT, however stacking both of these I think I may need something to add to my pct stack.
Iv got a on cycle stack of
 
Milk Thistle - 500mg
N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine (NAC) - 400mg
Hawthorn Berry - 400mg
Saw Palmetto - 200mg
Celery Seed Extract - 75mg
Grape Seed Extract - 75mg

I've bought anabolic xtreme pct....

Advanced PCT Matrix: 600 mg

Ingredients:
7-Methoxyflavone 50 mg
Cordyceps sinensis concentrate (Standardized to 20% Polysaccarides) 400mg
L-Histidine HCl 100mg
Grape Seed Extract (Standardized to 95% Procyanidolic oligomers) 50mg

What suggestions Do people have a to what else I need to think about buying.

Thanks in advance

This PCT is not sufficient IMO for epi and tren.
 
I would try hard and source a serm such as clomid. Tren and epi combined is likely to cause some shutdown, and often libido issues, and a strong PCT is a must
 
In addition to a serm, i would then add a good testbooster like testforce or hcgenerate
 
If you can't source a serm, i'd run somethjing like Reversitol instead but this isnt ideal

i agree with m118, tren alone will shut you down, so i would opt for nolva or clomid. you might get away with reversitol for an epi only cycle,  but not with the tren. then again my buddy has ran tren over 6 times and never used a serm...crazy..

i agree with m118, tren alone will shut you down, so i would opt for nolva or clomid. you might get away with reversitol for an epi only cycle,  but not with the tren. then again my buddy has ran tren over 6 times and never used a serm...crazy..

Do you think that the anabolic xtreme pct + clomid would suffice? If so have you a suggestion for what clomid I should take and in what cycle?

Sorry for all the questions,

Thanks in advance

I have just found this......

ESTO SUPPRESS 60 caps 10mg By Pharma Labs

 
ESTO SUPPRESS KEY POINTS:
>Genuine legal SERM alternative to Nolvadex or Clomid
>Powerful proven ability to block estrogen in body tissues
>Excellent protection against Gyno (Gynecomastia)
>Well noted for use on problematic prohormone cycles to minimise sides
>Popular part of many PCT protocols, noted for its effectiveness
>Suitable for male users over 21 due to potency
 
Would this work if i couldn't source a 'REAL' Serm???
 
 
 

m118

MattLudz89


I have just found this......

ESTO SUPPRESS 60 caps 10mg By Pharma Labs

 
ESTO SUPPRESS KEY POINTS:
>Genuine legal SERM alternative to Nolvadex or Clomid
>Powerful proven ability to block estrogen in body tissues
>Excellent protection against Gyno (Gynecomastia)
>Well noted for use on problematic prohormone cycles to minimise sides
>Popular part of many PCT protocols, noted for its effectiveness
>Suitable for male users over 21 due to potency

Would this work if i couldn't source a 'REAL' Serm???

OP and Matt, this is a dodgey product. the ingredient in it cant be found in any research articles so im not sure how they came to the conclusion it is a serm when theres NO evidence out there to support their claim

no one besides the manufacturer knows whats the active ingredient, and do you really want to risk buying something even the manufacturer doesnt want you to know:?

Granted i agree that it is abit dodgey. I currently dont have a source for Nolva or Clomid though, which means i am in a slight predicament.

MattLudz89

m118

MattLudz89


I have just found this......

ESTO SUPPRESS 60 caps 10mg By Pharma Labs

 
ESTO SUPPRESS KEY POINTS:
>Genuine legal SERM alternative to Nolvadex or Clomid
>Powerful proven ability to block estrogen in body tissues
>Excellent protection against Gyno (Gynecomastia)
>Well noted for use on problematic prohormone cycles to minimise sides
>Popular part of many PCT protocols, noted for its effectiveness
>Suitable for male users over 21 due to potency

Would this work if i couldn't source a 'REAL' Serm???

OP and Matt, this is a dodgey product. the ingredient in it cant be found in any research articles so im not sure how they came to the conclusion it is a serm when theres NO evidence out there to support their claim

no one besides the manufacturer knows whats the active ingredient, and do you really want to risk buying something even the manufacturer doesnt want you to know:?

Granted i agree that it is abit dodgey. I currently dont have a source for Nolva or Clomid though, which means i am in a slight predicament.

if you cant get a serm, then i definitely wouldnt stack tren. not only because it will add more suppression but also because iof its progesterone related activity can cause problems in itself
 
i would run epi, solo for 5-6 weeks, reversitol for pct plus a testbooster like testforce or hcgenerate
 
nice and simple, and pretty safe too.

m118

MattLudz89

m118

MattLudz89


I have just found this......

ESTO SUPPRESS 60 caps 10mg By Pharma Labs

 
ESTO SUPPRESS KEY POINTS:
>Genuine legal SERM alternative to Nolvadex or Clomid
>Powerful proven ability to block estrogen in body tissues
>Excellent protection against Gyno (Gynecomastia)
>Well noted for use on problematic prohormone cycles to minimise sides
>Popular part of many PCT protocols, noted for its effectiveness
>Suitable for male users over 21 due to potency

Would this work if i couldn't source a 'REAL' Serm???

OP and Matt, this is a dodgey product. the ingredient in it cant be found in any research articles so im not sure how they came to the conclusion it is a serm when theres NO evidence out there to support their claim

no one besides the manufacturer knows whats the active ingredient, and do you really want to risk buying something even the manufacturer doesnt want you to know:?

Granted i agree that it is abit dodgey. I currently dont have a source for Nolva or Clomid though, which means i am in a slight predicament.

if you cant get a serm, then i definitely wouldnt stack tren. not only because it will add more suppression but also because iof its progesterone related activity can cause problems in itself

i would run epi, solo for 5-6 weeks, reversitol for pct plus a testbooster like testforce or hcgenerate

nice and simple, and pretty safe too.

Brilliant, Cheers pal. Im going to try my hardest and ask some of the local meat heads if they can help me lol.
 
Fairly new to PH and DS but slowly getting there.
 
ANYTHING i do take will be taken safely and if i cannot take safely i wont be taking it....!!!!
 
Thanks for the great advise mate. if there is anything else i need to know i may just have to pm you from now on lol

Right after a little bit of research i have found 
 
Liquid Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL
 
 
What would the cycle/dose be on this...
 
 
Any help is very much appreciated
 
 

MattLudz89


Right after a little bit of research i have found 

Liquid Tamox 50mL 20mg/mL


What would the cycle/dose be on this...


Any help is very much appreciated

Liquid TC doesnt account for the citrate so where you would normally be advised by the experienced posters on here to dose TC at 20/20/10/10 (this would be the dose for pharma tabs) I would dose the liquid at 30/30/15/15 which is the near as damn it equivelant- wk1/wk2/wk3/wk4
 
So 1.5ml/1.5ml/.75ml/.75ml in the pippet.