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Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 19 January 2009 19:39 (permalink)
LOL, I always ask my training partner to not even touch the bar unless im obviously stuck because otherwise i'd end up only doing half of my reps.
 
What did you think of DC fella? i remember you did it a while back. Im gonna change my routine up soon and im loving the look of DC.
 
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    Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 19 January 2009 20:05 (permalink)
    yeah i loved DC mate..
    v good routine in my opinion mate..
     
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      Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 21 January 2009 17:15 (permalink)
      argghhh my heads doin that thing again where it says it wants to do a different routine!!
      seriously dont know whats wrong with me..
      been doin loads o reading recently and i always come across 'kown' trainers routines, e.g. DC etc..
      found a routine by a guy called ronnie rowlands who posts on a lot fo the american boards, he has a system he calls the slingshot training system..
      its pretty high volume t be honest which is somehtin i dont normally do but it has me intrigued...
      i love trainin as i am doin but part of me wants to switch back to a BBin style routine t jujst get it out of my system..plus im hurtin like crazy at the mo.. my back aint right, and both my elbows are givin me some sh1t as well.. oredered a big tub of Cissus Quadrangulis yesterday.. have heard v good stuff about its healin effect on joints etc, v highly rated, so im hopin this will help..

      anyway, undecided on what t do with my training now.. i dont know why my head does it, but it does!! im thinkin maybe just train with a more BBin approach until i feel i can 100% give my all to a strength based routine, cos i cant be arsed choppin and changin all the time!
       
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        Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 21 January 2009 17:22 (permalink)
        Sore joints..... deca

        I hear what you're saying, mate. Constant heavy work takes it's toll as I have also found over the last year. The thing is, if you are following something strength based then you have to do it the whole way and not part strength and part BBer. BBers always train close to their limits fairly blindly and not always the most productively, strength trainers use far more variety in their training and do not look for PB and max effort every session - the 2 together become a recipe for disaster so it's hard adjusting from a BBer to a strength trainer as I feel people do over-do it, I know several who just can't adjust the mindset when doing strength work.

        Whatever route you go, I am starting to learn that 1 main compound per workout is all I really need to go heavy on, the rest just complements the stimulation created by that lift so there is no need to go as mad.... IMHO that is.
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          Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 21 January 2009 17:54 (permalink)
          thats what im thinkin mate...
          like i said ive found this 'slingshot routine' but all these routines out there are no different from anythin else, they just say that following their rep schemes makes the changes.. i think DC is th eonly one that has kind of attacked training from a different angle!!
          i hear u with the possibloy overdoin it.. although i have just concentrated on one main exercise per session, it still may have some BBin element to it.. however what i was doin was kinda prescribed.. we'll see anyway!! im supposed to be goin tonight to do legs, but bakc is still dodgy and i have uni work to do so im unsure what t do!
          might just go anyway...
           
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            Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 21 January 2009 18:21 (permalink)
            Thats sound advice from DV, IMO.
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              Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 21 January 2009 18:31 (permalink)
              for quite a while now ive been following a routine where i train the muscles twice a wk, whether its been the gironda high vol routine i did, or DC or a routine ive come up with, and even in this strength based one, im training parts of my back in 3 of the 4 sessions, and my shoulders in 2 of them also..
              maybe i need to switch back to a regular split, training muscles once a wk for 2-3 months.. maybe help my recovery improve somewhat?
              think this is goin t have t be the way forward as after only doin this strength based routine for 3 wks my body is a wreck!!

              may look into the slingshot routine- not a fan of high vol stuff, but i'll try anythin t be honest..
              theres some other approach i found on MD forums too, called the 'H.O.S.S' routine- heavy old school strength routine... very basic but utilises lower and higher reps.. we'll see...but i think this is what is maybe needed!

              one thing is for sure tho.. im definately going to have to work on my flexibility!! yoga at uni is every tuesday, my mate walked out the gym yesterday and said its just full of beautiful women.. thats enough incentive for me!!
               
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                Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 21 January 2009 18:46 (permalink)
                You can train muscles multiple times if the volume is too bad and you avoid failure, I know people who sometimes have routines invloving squats up to 4 days a week. But you have have your volume and intensity adapted to suit
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                  Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 21 January 2009 18:57 (permalink)
                  well thats the thing, when ive trained each muscle twice a wk, ive trained fairly low volume but high intensity! maybe its just worth a change tho anyway...allow the body more days to recover, may have a positive effect and help these niggles i have.. feel like an old man! shoudnt be happenin to me.. :-(
                   
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                    Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 21 January 2009 20:53 (permalink)
                    Wait til your my age, then you'll have good reason to moan
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                      Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 22 January 2009 07:11 (permalink)
                      you on a cycle of AAS mate?
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                        Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 22 January 2009 18:20 (permalink)
                        me or DV??
                        Dv is.. im not!! :-( that might have to change soon tho...
                         
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                          Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 22 January 2009 22:09 (permalink)
                          tonight-
                          Seated Db shoulder press-
                          worked up to
                          38x10
                          44x5+1 assisted
                          36x10
                          30x8+3 (rest paused)


                          Cable laterals-
                          20x12
                          25x10
                          25x8
                          15x15


                          DB rear lat raises-
                          12x15
                          14x10
                          16x8


                          CGBP-
                          100x10
                          110x8
                          90x14+1

                          Reverse grip pushdowns-
                          full stack - 1 plate
                          x 12
                          x10
                          x8 - - - -  i used 30 sec rest between these sets so i failed at a lower rep..

                          was a good session, havent trained shoulders on their own like this in ages
                          .. this is taken from the routine i 'MAY' be following for a while.. uses low and high reps and it felt f*ckin grrrrrrrrrreatt!!
                           
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                            Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 23 January 2009 14:19 (permalink)
                            mrmmonster


                            me or DV??
                            Dv is.. im not!! :-( that might have to change soon tho...


                            *GASPS* how DARE you.... I'll have you know I strongly resemble that remark
                             
                            it's only 1g, so it doesn't really count TBH
                             
                            Sounds like you enjoyed the session. Let's face it, you ARE a BBer at heart and you loved it cos of the pump....we're all slaves to our self pampering egos
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                              Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 23 January 2009 18:27 (permalink)
                              Im old fashioned, all these training acronyms lose me. 10-12 sets per body part, once per week, train to failure on everything aprt from warm up sets.

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                                Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 24 January 2009 18:01 (permalink)
                                haha.. ur right mate.. i am a 'BBer' at heart !!
                                reborn i think ur totally right .. im gonna give the higher volume a go and see how it fairs in the end..
                                i think too may 'systems' try to make things too complicated, this one is nice and simple tho, i just uses higher and lower reps which hopefully will be great!
                                 
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                                  Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 24 January 2009 18:23 (permalink)
                                  Yo Mr M 'n' M
                                  Ive decided on doing DC now bud, I got me routine all sorted and wrote up in me journal. Gonna start on monday if i can convince my training partener to stop being such a f@nny and get on with it lol.
                                   
                                  you gonna run a an AAS cycle then bud?
                                  Do you use gear or would it be your first? 
                                   
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                                    Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 24 January 2009 18:33 (permalink)
                                    would be my first injectable cycle mate.. ive dabbled a few times wi these designer steroids and always done well off them so i def wanna do a proper cycle in the near future...

                                    mate DC is a great system.. give it ur all mate and im sure u'll get some great gains from it!!
                                     
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                                      Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 24 January 2009 22:52 (permalink)
                                      ahhhhh, you are welcomed back into the sweaty armpit that is bodybuilding

                                      You can flirt with other styles but like any good addict, you return to what you know is good lol
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                                        Re:The New and Improved 2009 MRM- 25 January 2009 11:46 (permalink)
                                        haha..
                                        cheers mate!
                                        yeah i think i need t stick wi this.. i think if i wanna start a more strength based routine i have to go at it 100% and not do much in the way of BBin as part of the routine..

                                        feels good t be back tho... ;-)
                                         
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