Whats the best I can do with the gear in my possesion. Gains V Costs

Ok, I realise now that almost every day newbies like me ask for 1st cycle advise, and can get a bit boring.
But what do you think is my best way forward.
 
I have-
x 25 1amp sus 250 Organon/Karachi
x 20ml vial of wild cat deca
x 10ml vial of BD deca (Im only 75% sure this is legit)
x 100 tabs of Tamoxifen
 
Bear in mind I dont have much £££ at the mo. I realise im slightly short of deca for the quotes below, but should be able to get a top up.
 
This will be my 1st cycle and I cant decide between these 4 options.
 
1)Just do 1amp of sus for 11 weeks (leaving me some sus for 2nd cycle & my deca)
2)1amp of sus, plus 3ml of deca for 11 weeks (only leaving some sus for 2nd cycle)
3)2amp of sus only, (use all my sus & save deca for 2nd cycle)
4)Blitz the lot in first cycle, (2amps sus & 3ml of deca for 11 weeks)
 
I have tamoxifen for PCT, how many for how long and when.
 
As its my 1st cycle, am I better off speading my gear across 2 cycles, bearing in mind the cash against gains.
 
Think that makes some sence......
 
Do me proud again fellas

if its your 1st cycle then imo just run 500mg sust and buy more test for the deca once you get it ;)
 
maybe run the bd deca 1ml ew with the 500mg test, but i defo wouldnt advice 500mgtest/500mg deca for your 1st cycle, dont need all that would be a waste imo

you could blitz it all its upto you, if you are hammering the food you will still gain more, just 500mg test is sort of standard.
 
i wouldnt run more deca than test tho if you want to keep your dick hard lol

So is 1x250 amp of sus not enough for good gains?
 

My dick dont work any more anyway, I hoping the test will bring it back to life!

you could run 1ml if you like imo 1ml e5d min, with sust 2jabs per week is best cause of the prob ester 1ml per week would have your test levels up and down, so 2-3 per week on sust keeps your blood concentrations more level, you will still gain from 1ml but i would run 1ml e5d, 1ml ew is too far apart imo.
 
if you take more deca that test you will prob get deca dick no libido, som still get it off 500mg test,400mg deca.
 
either way to make 2cycles you are still going to need more test to go with your deca on the 2nd cycle, as you have more deca than test
 
why not run 1ml sust 1ml db deca 10weeks
then buy more test to run 2ml sust 2ml deca for your 2nd cycle

The fine base of any cycle....
Could he do Test E 500mg, and Decca 250mg, in 1 shot each week?

Yeah thats a plan. I dont mind if I need more for my 2nd cycle, just dont want to be wastfull & over do it.
Is it right that 3ml is the max I should jab from one barrel?

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Yeah thats a plan. I dont mind if I need more for my 2nd cycle, just dont want to be wastfull & over do it.
Is it right that 3ml is the max I should jab from one barrel?

you can shoot 3ml if you like, my barrels are 2ml's so i use to, 1x3ml in glute+quads should be ok

I dont have test E liebow, only sus250&deca (I assume they are different)

Sorry my bad... I mean Sust @ 500mg ew and 1ml of Decca. Maybe you could get a 5ml barrel and do it in the quad? Or do 1ml Sust + 0.5ml Decca in one quad, and the same again in the other, on a Mon/Thurs basis?

500mg seems the minimum on sus, is 1ml pw of deca enough?
 
If so, I like it liebow, I like it alot

Well, it is your 1st cycle.... bare minimum is how we roll eh.
Im on Test Cyp 500mg... I know I can handle more and go for longer. Ive stacked many AAS orals in the past and had good results, but while its my 1st injectable - Im playing it safe and cool. Easier recovery, descent gains, more easier to jump back onto my next cycle.
And you'll still make descent gains.... so finish your cycle, finish PCT, wait a few months and when your ready - jump back on!

from what i've read, deca needs to be run longer than 10 weeks to get the best from it, i know you have the deca on hand but your just asking for more trouble with sides. your going to have plenty of gear left over so i can see you rushing into your next cycle anyway, run the sus at 500mg PW, mon/thurs shots, 1000mg the 1st week to get to peak blood concentration levels as you've no kickstart (dbol etc), let yourself recover then add the deca in the 2nd cycle and get some more test.
 
an AI would probably be needed for sus deca cycle, running nolva if gyno symptoms occur could have a negative effect on it (alot of debate on this though)
 
 

Keep it simple mate
 
2ml or 3ml barrels ( find 5ml gives pip )
 
2ml sust a week = 500mg sust / test
 
for 10 / 12 weeks PCT start 3 to 4 weeks after last jab IMO

Or
 
Sust for 12 weeks 500mg
Deca 300mg 10 weeks
 
 

Like the others have said I'd keep it nice and simple with the first cycle just stick to 500mg sust pw then use the nolva for PCT.
 
1 x 250mg twice per week or 500mg once per week, either should be fine.