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twiggy99

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Where are these powders coming from? 23 January 2012 23:40 (permalink)
Me and a few mates and some people from the gym want to get together and buy in bulk to save us some money. When shopping around we have found almost all these 'own brands' such as myprotein, BBW, bulk blends ect ect (there are loads popping-up every day) are all using the same product with the exact same contents, mostly the same product descriptions and roughly the same prices.
 
What (guessing wholesale) company are they getting them from? Guessing it will be cheaper to buy direct from them.
 
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    Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 01:41 (permalink)
    I think alot of the producers of whey are based in europe so probably not that cost effective unless your order in tons
     
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      Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 03:01 (permalink)
      A lot of it comes from China. 
      Have a search on Alibaba.com - you negotiate a price based on bulk, some places will only provide by the ton but if you look round others will probably go as low as 25KG and it will be as cheap as chips. 
      I use Alibaba all the time for my business (chemicals and laboratory equipment) and whilst scammers do exist on there they are quite rare and can be avoided by using only audited manufactures and applying common sense.  
       
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        Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 11:58 (permalink)
        I think Vydex are supplying most of these companys
         
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          Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 13:20 (permalink)
          Just stick with the brands you have mentioned mate and take advantage of their bulk buy savings/special offers etc. The suppliers Glanbia, Vydex etc deal with these guys on a volume basis, they order thousands and thousands of kilos not just 25kilo bags so have already negotiated the best deal. Also they will have contracts in place safeguarding the amount of protein on the label is what it should be. When small time players start putting orders in (and i mean no disresect by that) then there is more likelihood of there being problems, think STC etc
           
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            Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 14:03 (permalink)
            as above unless your ordering tonnes, you wont get it much cheaper, also the main suppliers will prob only sell tonnes lol
            i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

            main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.
             
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              Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 14:09 (permalink)
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              A lot of it comes from China. 
              Have a search on Alibaba.com - you negotiate a price based on bulk, some places will only provide by the ton but if you look round others will probably go as low as 25KG and it will be as cheap as chips. 
              I use Alibaba all the time for my business (chemicals and laboratory equipment) and whilst scammers do exist on there they are quite rare and can be avoided by using only audited manufactures and applying common sense.  

              No one buys whey from China!!!
               
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                Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 14:25 (permalink)
                he has just said he does???? lol
                i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

                main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.
                 
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                  Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 14:33 (permalink)
                  stone14


                  he has just said he does???? lol

                  He didn't he said he buys chemicals and lab equipment...
                   
                  But that said if he buys whey from China, then he is crazy as they buy it from Europe or NZ, there are not whey manufacturers in China.. Well none that any European or US brands use....
                   
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                    Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 14:37 (permalink)
                    cool dude
                    i believe with a healthy active lifestyle and some good knowledge and aas/peps use etc that you can live a longer stronger better life.

                    main interests: physique conditioning, bbj, muay thai.
                     
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                      Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 14:55 (permalink)
                      There cheap enough unless you want tonnes and usually there contracts in place were X company will buy Y amount of whey every month.
                      The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion.
                       
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                        Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 15:20 (permalink)
                        None of the bulk guys buys from China and few, if any, buy via wholesalers - at least not for their Whey based products. If anything China is importing NOT exporting.
                         
                        A handful use contract manufacturers like Vydex's contract arm but many mix etc in-house - esp the bigger ones. Some of the smaller ones are using brokers to source material. 
                         
                        If you have enough mates why not contact any of the companies and see what discounts they'd offer on a decent size order (£500-1000+). If you placed regular (at least monthly) ones you might get an account. Set up a small company or use one to buy the material and you might get a trade account.
                         
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                          Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 15:30 (permalink)
                          The amount of misinformation in this thread is high!
                           
                          EU CO's do not buy whey from China like Rob/Mobster said.
                           
                          As for where they buy their whey from - one of the 3 mentioned uses just one supplier and has done for a long time.
                           
                          One other uses multiple suppliers.
                           
                          Johnny please differentiate between a dairy and a contract packer not the same thing. I know Glanbia do contract pack but I would class them as a dairy.
                           
                          As for prices - whey yet again going a bit iffy on price i.e. Q1,Q2 price rises likely.
                           
                          The issue for the larger co's selling whey protein to us is not the price but whether they can get the qty they require.
                           
                          Use 10MT per month or 100MT you won't see much of a difference in price.
                           
                          Twiggy by all means get the boys together and rock up in the Hilux outside the dairy with a fistful of cash and see what gives - do video it however as it would make good viewing on youtube!
                           
                          Bottom line is that some of the prices online right now for unflavoured are at cost or very close to it. Add in the free shipping and pouch/tub and it's value all the way!
                          An Alterego is a paradoxical escape.

                           
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                            Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 16:16 (permalink)
                            AlterEgo

                            Johnny please differentiate between a dairy and a contract packer not the same thing. I know Glanbia do contract pack but I would class them as a dairy. 

                            ??? I didn't say they were the same...

                             
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                              Re:Where are these powders coming from? 24 January 2012 19:57 (permalink)
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                              A lot of it comes from China. 
                              Have a search on Alibaba.com - you negotiate a price based on bulk, some places will only provide by the ton but if you look round others will probably go as low as 25KG and it will be as cheap as chips. 
                              I use Alibaba all the time for my business (chemicals and laboratory equipment) and whilst scammers do exist on there they are quite rare and can be avoided by using only audited manufactures and applying common sense.  

                              If you're talking about whey then I suspect 0% comes from China. Almost all will be from Europe, namely Holland, France, Germany,Ireland.

                               
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