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Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist?

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2008/05/17 23:22:35 (permalink)

Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist?

As above.

Been looking through the literature and I can't find a single reason to use deca. It's not even much cheaper than Tren. I suppose Tren = Fina cough but still.

Deca-dick is to Fina-dick

Deca gians are nowhere near as good as Tren gains.

HPTA shutdown is that of Tren and Deca

Deca Gains are less than mast (apparently, don't quote me), recovery is slower

Detection time is much less with Tren and Mast than Deca.

So why does anyone use Deca?




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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/17 23:47:00 (permalink)
    I think there are lots of reasons m8 every one will have a different view. I have both the compound at hand ready to use. But il be choosing to add deca next.

    Reasons

    1) Ive only just started back on gear. Tren is a very strong compound no need to start at the end so to speak. Il use the weaker compounds till they no longer work then use stronger compounds.

    2) Deca helps with joint pains.

    Im sure others will have other reasons to but number one for me is the biggest reason.
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/17 23:52:17 (permalink)
    For me deca adds great mass and strength.
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/17 23:59:19 (permalink)
    Deca for mass. Tren for lean mass.
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 00:19:59 (permalink)
    Deca for mass. Tren for lean mass

    Papa jus to clarify are you saying deca will give more mass than tren?

    I know the whole tone of this thread is "deca is gay" but it was wrote after reading the literature, I am actually curios. The sources of info I have say Tren is one of the best if not, the best- possibley because most people will stack it with test, but nonetheless it seems to be seen as anadrol without the water, not exactly the same but simelar.



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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 00:30:58 (permalink)
    Imo Deca could yield more mass, assuming all things are in place. Its much less of a harsh med than Tren, its not broken down into DHT so associated problems arent an issue. Tren is highly androgenic so can cause problems like bad acne and MPB. Also that nasty Tren cough and possible kidney problems.

    Dont get me wrong Tren is an awesome med I'm sure (Havnt personally taken it 'yet') but Deca has its place too.
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 00:39:44 (permalink)
    There are lots of sources of info on steroids and their sides/benafits but all of these describe deca as a known builder- but not a fast or strong one.

    and all of the same information sources descreibe fina as fast powerful and strong. yeh the fina cough, from what I hear is a nasty bitch but worth it in most cases.

    basically deca is said to be the single best steroid with regard to benefit Vs sides- but Tren is said to be better, much better. I've not used either, but cant use deca anyway, not that that bothers me. tren scores are the same as drol and deca scores the same as var. is this accurate?

    It's interesting to see how many people are defending deca and professing its qualities as a builder.

    In all honesty Deca Vs Tren ignore the sides- which is better for a)strength? b)size

    Deca Vs Masteron ignore the sides, which is better for a)strength? b)size


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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 06:15:21 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: steve124149

    Deca Vs Tren ignore the sides- which is better for a)strength? b)size

    A - Tren
    B - Tren
    (for me)

    Deca Vs Masteron ignore the sides, which is better for a)strength? b)size

    A - Deca
    B - Deca
    (for me)

    Why do people use deca? Because it's a useful steroid for many people

    There is no single best steroid, because there is no single goal for all people

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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 08:32:37 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: steve124149

    Deca Vs Tren ignore the sides- which is better for a)strength? b)size

    A - Tren
    B - Tren
    (for me)

    Deca Vs Masteron ignore the sides, which is better for a)strength? b)size

    A - Deca
    B - Deca

    for me, althougth i'd rather run a highe dose test cycle with mast than run deca on a moderate test dose. dont really like it. I dont actually agree with the joint pain claims either. water from test and other meds does exactly the same IMO


    also a lot of it coud be to do with deca being so cheap and readly avaliable and pharma, where as tren you have to use UGL and many may only be able to get tren ace (so more jabs)


    post edited by CK - 2008/05/18 08:33:25
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 09:29:36 (permalink)
    IMO its down to price more than anything. Tren can be V expensive. Deca not. But I find tren leaves me looking better even tho deca builds me better than tren. I like the leaness that tren affords.
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 09:38:28 (permalink)
    aside from sides why could a newbie not just run a lower dose of tren?
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 09:40:37 (permalink)
    No reason. But the sides can be very harsh!
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 10:27:29 (permalink)
    Its not all about HPTA shutdown, in any case I'm sure tren will shut you down harder than deca. Deca is by far much less toxic than Tren... for a start you can find it as a Pharma grade med fairly easly still, tren will have to be UGL.

    Deca is low androgenic, tren is highly androgenic...

    Deca is by far the safer med, I think the tone of this post could confuse beginners, tren is NOT a novice med.

    Just my thoughts
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 11:46:09 (permalink)
    I have read quite a few times where we get these comparisons "yeh but ignore the fact that compound A does this this and that"

    You can't ignore anything within a comparison, it's all important.

    Tren is very harsh, very androgenic, i get breathless in the gym, it's more expensive and very toxic and not very good for long cycles. on the upside it makes you stronger, bigger and leaner

    Deca on the other hand is less toxic, less androgenic, less expensive and can be used for longer durations. On the downside it's weaker, the gains are less and it wont make you leaner.

    Would u stack tren with test and anap50, or stack deca, test and anap50. i would even stack tren with deca but a tren tren cycle would be a non starter.

    As for Masteron, its way more difficult to get holder, it isnt as strong as deca at all and won't build mass, it is better used for cutting unlike deca which is used for mass building.

    Pain is just weakness leaving the body..
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 12:19:20 (permalink)
    Deca helps with tendons/ligaments

    Deca is not as androgenic as tren/mast - useful for those who are predisposed to MPB for example
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 13:34:48 (permalink)
    Deca is more anabolic (growth) bulking where gains are large and the rounded look doesn't matter... water will drop of at the end anyway but it's available pharma.
    Tren is more androgenic (strength) cutting/bulking it helps burn fat, moderate gains but where dryer gains are prefered... no water due to the tren will be droped at the end but it has to be from a UG lab.

    Both make you grow and get stronger though. Both are one of the best you could use. it;s not a choice of one or the other it's more a choice of which fits your purpose.
    You would run the deca with test normally so sex function wouldn't be a prob, deca d!ck doesn't affect everyone anyway.
    You would also run tren with test and you will probably sweat buckets LOL

    I've ran both in the same cycle before... deca at the begining for the growth and tren at the end to help harden up with test all the way through.




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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 15:23:34 (permalink)
    have read quite a few times where we get these comparisons "yeh but ignore the fact that compound A does this this and that"


    only reason I say ignore the sides is because I don't care about them. Lets say compound X was terrible for MPB, but that I dont care about MPB.

    In this case the only thing that bothers me is deca dick/ fina dick and where they seem equal, deca/tren/mast seem very removed from each other in strength and muscle.

    The most prominant thing im getting in favour of deca is its safety. Everyone knows it does what it says on the tin, builds muscle, and some peolpe are saying it works better as a builder than tren. But everyone seeminly agrees Tren is better for strength and again all are of the opinion that tren and mast will yeild leaner gains?

    out of interest which is faster acting?


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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 16:23:24 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: steve124149

    As above.

    Been looking through the literature and I can't find a single reason to use deca. It's not even much cheaper than Tren. I suppose Tren = Fina cough but still.

    Deca-dick is to Fina-dick

    Deca gians are nowhere near as good as Tren gains.
    bollox
    HPTA shutdown is that of Tren and Deca

    Deca Gains are less than mast (apparently, don't quote me), recovery is slower
    Gains less than mast? Gimme a break lol
    Detection time is much less with Tren and Mast than Deca.
    Not many bodybuilders care about detection times
    So why does anyone use Deca?
    Because it is one of the mass builders there is




    Thats why reading baout steroids is shoite IMO, and why I ahte people hwo 'read' about steroids and then give advice from what they have read.

    Things work differently for different people, and what you have said proves that no amount of reading can compare to real life experince.

    Masteron gains better than Deca gains???? Not a chance
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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 16:40:10 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: yiddo


    ORIGINAL: steve124149

    As above.

    Been looking through the literature and I can't find a single reason to use deca. It's not even much cheaper than Tren. I suppose Tren = Fina cough but still.

    Deca-dick is to Fina-dick

    Deca gians are nowhere near as good as Tren gains.
    bollox
    HPTA shutdown is that of Tren and Deca

    Deca Gains are less than mast (apparently, don't quote me), recovery is slower
    Gains less than mast? Gimme a break lol
    Detection time is much less with Tren and Mast than Deca.
    Not many bodybuilders care about detection times
    So why does anyone use Deca?
    Because it is one of the mass builders there is




    Thats why reading baout steroids is shoite IMO, and why I ahte people hwo 'read' about steroids and then give advice from what they have read.

    Things work differently for different people, and what you have said proves that no amount of reading can compare to real life experince.

    Masteron gains better than Deca gains???? Not a chance




    Oi calm down. does it sound like I'm giving advise or asking for it? I don't know why you feel the need to pounce on threads like this to slag someone off. I specifically said (apperently, don't quote me)

    but that said, thanks for the reply




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    RE: Why would anyone use deca, given things like Tren and Mast exist? 2008/05/18 16:54:34 (permalink)
    Thanks for the Mail Steve
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