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Your squat rep range. 16 November 2009 20:23 (permalink)
What range do you squat in and how many sets.  Are they full,parallel or partial and which do you find most suitable for growth?

I mix mine up but I am currently full squatting at 15 reps for 3 sets.


 
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    Re:Your squat rep range. 16 November 2009 20:58 (permalink)
    3 work sets followed by hacks and leg extension

    Prefer doing low rep squatting because its easier but for size higher reps 10+ work better for me.

    Depth just below parallel.
     
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      Re:Your squat rep range. 16 November 2009 21:16 (permalink)
      Never more than 5s.

      All to competition depth
      As far as I know, forgiveness is for the benefit of the person doing the forgiving, not the one being forgiven
       
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        Re:Your squat rep range. 16 November 2009 21:22 (permalink)
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        Never more than 5s.

        All to competition depth


        ditto
         
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          Re:Your squat rep range. 16 November 2009 23:51 (permalink)
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          Never more than 5s.

          All to competition depth


          Surely for growth size you need to do more than 5.
           
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            Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 00:12 (permalink)
            I normaly do 4 working sets of about 8-12 reps

            any more than 12 reps and I run out of breath lol



            <message edited by Dajoco on 17 November 2009 00:13>

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              Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 07:27 (permalink)
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              Fat Pete

              Never more than 5s.
              All to competition depth

              Surely for growth size you need to do more than 5.

               
              Not at all. More than five keeps your weight down too much.
               
              Amd don't call me Shirley

              As far as I know, forgiveness is for the benefit of the person doing the forgiving, not the one being forgiven
               
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                Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 10:00 (permalink)
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                Fat Pete

                Never more than 5s.
                All to competition depth

                Surely for growth size you need to do more than 5.

                 
                Not at all. More than five keeps your weight down too much.
                 
                Amd don't call me Shirley


                How many sets of 5 would you do, and how many would be real all out work sets. I might try a few myself.
                 
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                  Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 11:08 (permalink)
                  1 set for 4-6 reps then a 20 rep set with less weight. Cant see how you would need more then that TBH.
                   
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                    Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 11:48 (permalink)
                    I go for sets of doubles and triples. Rarely branch off over 5's and my legs seem to grow just fine.
                     
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                      Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 13:44 (permalink)
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                      Fat Pete

                      Never more than 5s.
                      All to competition depth

                      Surely for growth size you need to do more than 5.

                       
                      Not at all. More than five keeps your weight down too much.
                       
                      Amd don't call me Shirley


                      LOL
                       
                      Yeah I  personally do 2 work sets of 5 - 8 reps just to parrallel.
                      Once I can 7 or 8 good parralel reps, I increase the weight :-D
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                        Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 14:14 (permalink)
                        warmup 20 on the bar, then 5s, upping the weight each set. Legs seem to be where i get the best growth actually, on the fewest amount of sets
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                          Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 17:30 (permalink)
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                          yannyboy

                          Fat Pete

                          Never more than 5s.
                          All to competition depth

                          Surely for growth size you need to do more than 5.

                          Not at all. More than five keeps your weight down too much.
                          Amd don't call me Shirley

                          How many sets of 5 would you do, and how many would be real all out work sets. I might try a few myself.


                          Hap-py days are here again, the sky is bright and clear again, fat pete completes five fives again, happy days are here again.

                          Saturday 7th May start 13:00

                          A little juggling of the warm ups and we're away

                          Squat

                          70k x 5
                          70k x 5
                          120k x 5
                          170k x 3
                          210k x 3
                          240k x 5
                          240k x 5
                          240k x 5
                          240k x 5
                          240k x 5

                          And that, as they say, is that. End 14:15 looking like I just been swimming but with a big daft grin on my big fat face. These have been fun, but as always towards the end, you just want them to be over with. Well they are now, and we can move on into the fun phase.



                          The above is an extract from my log. I started the 5 x 5s at 220 and increased 2.5 each week until I had raised the weight by 20 kilos

                          As far as I know, forgiveness is for the benefit of the person doing the forgiving, not the one being forgiven
                           
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                            Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 18:16 (permalink)
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                            Never more than 5s.
                            All to competition depth

                            Surely for growth size you need to do more than 5.

                            Not at all. More than five keeps your weight down too much.
                            Amd don't call me Shirley

                            How many sets of 5 would you do, and how many would be real all out work sets. I might try a few myself.


                            Hap-py days are here again, the sky is bright and clear again, fat pete completes five fives again, happy days are here again.

                            Saturday 7th May start 13:00

                            A little juggling of the warm ups and we're away

                            Squat

                            70k x 5
                            70k x 5
                            120k x 5
                            170k x 3
                            210k x 3
                            240k x 5
                            240k x 5
                            240k x 5
                            240k x 5
                            240k x 5

                            And that, as they say, is that. End 14:15 looking like I just been swimming but with a big daft grin on my big fat face. These have been fun, but as always towards the end, you just want them to be over with. Well they are now, and we can move on into the fun phase.



                            The above is an extract from my log. I started the 5 x 5s at 220 and increased 2.5 each week until I had raised the weight by 20 kilos



                            So you have one workout completely devoted to squats. What other leg exercises do you do and when?
                            Also I am training for size mainly so do you think this sort of squat workout would benefit me. I normally aim for 8-10 reps on upper body and 10-12 reps for legs.
                             
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                              Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 18:40 (permalink)
                              The rules!*

                              Get some volume done: aim for 25-35 reps.
                              Divide reps and sets 5x5 5x6 6x5 3-4x8, 3x10 etc
                              Go as heavy as you can in the rep range you chose.
                              Move the weight fast, or try to move the weight fast - explode.
                              Use a reasonable range of motion, break parallel.
                              Train at over ~70% of your one rep max

                              Sorted.

                              *there's no hard and fast rules of course but these are pretty good!
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                                Re:Your squat rep range. 17 November 2009 19:30 (permalink)
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                                Fat Pete

                                Never more than 5s.
                                All to competition depth

                                Surely for growth size you need to do more than 5.

                                Not at all. More than five keeps your weight down too much.
                                Amd don't call me Shirley

                                How many sets of 5 would you do, and how many would be real all out work sets. I might try a few myself.


                                Hap-py days are here again, the sky is bright and clear again, fat pete completes five fives again, happy days are here again.

                                Saturday 7th May start 13:00

                                A little juggling of the warm ups and we're away

                                Squat

                                70k x 5
                                70k x 5
                                120k x 5
                                170k x 3
                                210k x 3
                                240k x 5
                                240k x 5
                                240k x 5
                                240k x 5
                                240k x 5

                                And that, as they say, is that. End 14:15 looking like I just been swimming but with a big daft grin on my big fat face. These have been fun, but as always towards the end, you just want them to be over with. Well they are now, and we can move on into the fun phase.



                                The above is an extract from my log. I started the 5 x 5s at 220 and increased 2.5 each week until I had raised the weight by 20 kilos





                                one of your easier sessions then Pete???
                                 
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                                  Re:Your squat rep range. 18 November 2009 07:03 (permalink)
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                                  So you have one workout completely devoted to squats. What other leg exercises do you do and when?
                                  Also I am training for size mainly so do you think this sort of squat workout would benefit me. I normally aim for 8-10 reps on upper body and 10-12 reps for legs.

                                   
                                  I only do squats. If you plan to compete as a bodybuilder you should look to add others, especially calves.
                                  If you don't why bother.
                                  Everyone would benefit from this type of work. You don't have to live on it, but every now and then would be good.Twice a year say. It's hard though. Be prepared for that. Pitch your weights a tad low to start with so you get used to the relentless grind of it.
                                  The second time you do it, you start again from where you left off last time.

                                  As far as I know, forgiveness is for the benefit of the person doing the forgiving, not the one being forgiven
                                   
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                                    Re:Your squat rep range. 18 November 2009 21:11 (permalink)
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                                    The rules!*

                                    Get some volume done: aim for 25-35 reps.
                                    Divide reps and sets 5x5 5x6 6x5 3-4x8, 3x10 etc
                                    Go as heavy as you can in the rep range you chose.
                                    Move the weight fast, or try to move the weight fast - explode.
                                    Use a reasonable range of motion, break parallel.
                                    Train at over ~70% of your one rep max

                                    Sorted.

                                    *there's no hard and fast rules of course but these are pretty good!



                                    if i was to do squats followed by leg press in a session would you advise on hitting the stated rep range on each exercise or between the 2 of them?

                                    also other than doing a 1 rep max is there a way of working it out from a higher rep range?
                                     
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                                      Re:Your squat rep range. 18 November 2009 21:47 (permalink)
                                      Rep max calculators arent perfect and can be easily thrown off by using higher reps, but for reps under 10 they can give some indication:

                                      (weight lifted x reps x 0.0333)+weight lifted = predicted 1rm
                                      20kg to go.
                                       
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                                        Re:Your squat rep range. 19 November 2009 10:26 (permalink)
                                        I mix the reps up in like a pyramid e.g.

                                        1x20
                                        1x12
                                        1x8
                                        1x6
                                        1x4
                                        1x10
                                        1x10
                                        1x20

                                        8 Sets in total.

                                        The first 2 sets (20 and 12 reps) are effectively a warm up and could do more reps with the weight used. The sets of 8 and 6 work up towards the set of 4 reps.  That is my heaviest set . These 3 sets (8,6,4) are with weights that I get the last rep but wouldn't get another rep.

                                        The last sets of 1x10 are at a lower weight (normally the weight I used for the beginning 1x12)  and finally the 1x20 is a pump set.

                                        All the sets with the exception of the first 2 are hard.
                                         
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