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Your thoughts on this please???????? 31 January 2012 20:23 (permalink)
gonna start 6 week cycle of d bol,,1st time user, only advice im looking is do i actually need to be takeing nolvadex and clomid with this????? as im finding them both hard to get, would it be ok  just to start cycle and hope for the best, ive been told there shouldnt be a problem,was gonna just take milk thistle to help the liver thx
 
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    Re:Your thoughts on this please???????? 31 January 2012 20:58 (permalink)
    No you need nolva mate really. You may not get gyno but you could. Dbol is very estrogenic so it has high incidences of gyno.
     
    Nolva is not hard to find if you look, ask the guy you got the dbol from mate.
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      Re:Your thoughts on this please???????? 31 January 2012 21:13 (permalink)
      Nolva or tamoxifen they are the same product just different names if you guy cannot get nolva ask him about tamoxifen
       
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        Re:Your thoughts on this please???????? 31 January 2012 22:02 (permalink)
        if you have sourced some dbols from someone who can't get hold of nolva, then they are likely to be fake!
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          Re:Your thoughts on this please???????? 31 January 2012 22:36 (permalink)
          Starting a course of Dbol without any nolva on hand is a mistake that i made on my 1st cycle i am can personally say if you make the same mistake as me after reading these replies then your going down the wrong road, i was doing 30mg e/d and gyno symptoms became apparent a few weeks in, by the time i managed to get hold of the nolva the course was over and the symptoms worsened. 
           
          Even if you dont need it whilst on the cycle your more then likey gunna need them PCT mate
           
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            Re:Your thoughts on this please???????? 01 February 2012 00:09 (permalink)
            Get some research chemical grade if you can't get the tabs mate.
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              Re:Your thoughts on this please???????? 01 February 2012 07:29 (permalink)
              Thx for the advice lads, think its safe to say ill not start until i get the nolvadex or ill see if i can get the tamoxifen,,, i see nobody has mentioned the clomid so must be fine to go ahead without this,, if worse comes to the worse ill just get the nolvadex online and hopefully alls fine, 
               
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                Re:Your thoughts on this please???????? 01 February 2012 08:06 (permalink)
                Ye tamoxifen is nolvadex they are the same med, as you surmised you don't need clomid.

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                  Re:Your thoughts on this please???????? 01 February 2012 11:57 (permalink)
                  wannagetbigmatt

                  if you have sourced some dbols from someone who can't get hold of nolva, then they are likely to be fake!

                  This is my thought too.
                   
                  OP - one of the other is fine. Clomid OR Nolva. No need for both. I prefer Nolva/Tamoxifen, esp with a Dbol cycle, but if you can only source Clomid it'll do the job.
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