anyone done a closed book law exam?

haha, doing it like this takes the effort out of it! if not all the time (viz). As each bit takes 25mins-ish you don't even realise how much work you get done. just keep doing chunks and before you know it...

ended up with 2:2 at 58.5%. I was pleased though because before uni I'd never written much like what is required for law. my first c/w was 40% but last exam was 62% iirc, each piece getting a little better each time until I cracked this method of learning.

Fair enough, I've never been one for revision (or foreward planning for that matter) so never botherd with any of this.

Learnt the entire course in 6 weeks before the exams and did pretty well in them considering, my coursework is what gave me a bad grade, 2 40% a 51% and 60% (oral assesment) exams were all 2:2 and I ended up with 49.3%!!!

apart from getting confused a bit with contract law i found law pretty easy!

just comprehension and application of ideas.  nothing really complicated

i actually had a lot lower grades when i did sport science then when i did law!  i guess our brains all work diff!

like maths gcse was about my limit.  god knows what anything above that is like.

odog

like maths gcse was about my limit.  god knows what anything above that is like.

I'm actually really interested in maths, but I'm absolutely terrible at it! Would love to have been able to study it at 3rd level, but I barely passed maths in school haha. Is that kinda strange?

you really have to use your brain in maths like nothing else imo!!

guess its natural to some and not to others.

i did get an A in gcse maths but at the time it seems so hard maybe its relative.

CitizenKane

odog

like maths gcse was about my limit.  god knows what anything above that is like.

I'm actually really interested in maths, but I'm absolutely terrible at it! Would love to have been able to study it at 3rd level, but I barely passed maths in school haha. Is that kinda strange?

How can you be terrible at it? It's just logic. I honestly believe anybody can do maths, people just have bad experiences/teachers/don't see "the light" and therefore assume they are bad at it. 

You can make a lot of stuff up. seriously. I used to go into exams knowing literally the basics (i was a lazy fcuker who used to read the nutshells books the night before) and i found that by putting the basic law with standard cases yet backing them up with made up journals i managed to get a 2:1. We used to have competitions to see how many football managers names you could get into the exam...i vividly recall using s.allardyce numerous times and his journals on various subjects! There are that many journals out there that the marker isnt going to know every single one of them therefore they will think you've gone beyond the basic and reward you well. Same with essays to, basic law backed up with numerous (real) journals = 2.1.

sillynarbie


What's your reasoning for this righty? I thought you wanted to work in a bank? Qualification/letter collecting isn't the aim of the game.

After speaking to 40+ bankers, I have realised it is no longer a possibility - distinct or otherwise.

I am in the process of switching employers from the looks of it, with a major payrise and all qualifications current and future paid for, including masters.

I am months ahead of the maths degree study - it is getting boring waiting around now, so I have decided to study for the LLB while also sitting some A levels over the next 12 months, and completing year two of the maths degree.

I got my results yesterday for some of the second year modules - 100% on one, 91% on another (and the 9 lost marks were essentially because my version of unbounded sketches differed from what the examiner was looking for. I also failed to state an equivalence relation conclusion).
I have my group theory assignment done - took about 40 pages of A4 and I am not even allowed to submit it for another month. So, plenty of time to pick up the pace a bit to be honest.

minidorian

i vividly recall using s.allardyce numerous times and his journals on various subjects! There are that many journals out there that the marker isnt going to know every single one of them therefore they will think you've gone beyond the basic and reward you well.

LMFAO.

rightyho

sillynarbie


What's your reasoning for this righty? I thought you wanted to work in a bank? Qualification/letter collecting isn't the aim of the game.

After speaking to 40+ bankers, I have realised it is no longer a possibility - distinct or otherwise.

I am in the process of switching employers from the looks of it, with a major payrise and all qualifications current and future paid for, including masters.

I am months ahead of the maths degree study - it is getting boring waiting around now, so I have decided to study for the LLB while also sitting some A levels over the next 12 months, and completing year two of the maths degree.

I got my results yesterday for some of the second year modules - 100% on one, 91% on another (and the 9 lost marks were essentially because my version of unbounded sketches differed from what the examiner was looking for. I also failed to state an equivalence relation conclusion).
I have my group theory assignment done - took about 40 pages of A4 and I am not even allowed to submit it for another month. So, plenty of time to pick up the pace a bit to be honest.

That's a shame mate, what did these 40+ bankers say to make you change your mind? It seems a shame to have devoted this much time to a prospective career only to have your hopes dashed now at this late stage?


Good work on the Maths, sounds like things are going really well for you on that front. Shame you can't speed the course up! Sounds like filling your time with law could be a worthwhile thing to do then. Is your plan to go into law now then? A word of warning, once you've tasted the fun and excitement of mathematics, law is going to seem ****ing boring 

Brett87
Rightyo what year of your maths degree are you in? and what's made you choose to do law as well? Is it the conversion course you're doing or something like a joint degree?

Second year mate.
I have a keen interest in law.
I was a criminal court reporter for five years on local and provincial papers.
I have also represented myself many times in small claims court, and I have just settled out of court with a utility supply company after beginning proceedings against them for harassment, by citing Ferguson v British Gas Trading.

My main interest lies, I think, in commercial contract law.
I think it would probably lie in criminal law if there was any money in it, though.

I am doing two separate degrees - BSc (Hons) in Mathematics and the LLB (Hons), plus five A levels.

I will have them all finished in three-and-a-half years, when I am 44.

sillynarbie

what did these 40+ bankers say to make you change your mind? It seems a shame to have devoted this much time to a prospective career only to have your hopes dashed now at this late stage?

It was a reality wake-up call/check/moment.
You get out of banking when you are my age. You dont go into it.
Some a couple of years older than me have been made redundant.
Most agreed my personality is too confrontational and likely to be perceived as aggressive to get on in a bank - I want stuff doing yesterday, not in 10 mins time.
Nearly all of them, without being asked, expressed doubts about my ability to work under someone younger (though I dont think this would be a problem, the perception is that it would be).
I was also told that I could get a masters from Oxbridge but my first degree will still count against me because it is not one of the chosen few establishments.
In short, the profession can fcuk off.

You're bloody bonkers Rightyho....just trying to outdo my PhD I bet

kitty


You're bloody bonkers Rightyho....just trying to outdo my PhD I bet

For the record - I will never attain a PhD. I wish I could but I will never.
That said, if the lottery ticket turns out to be a good one tonight, I will enrol in a brick uni and stay there forever. That would be perfect - just studying all day, then driving home in the Bentley.

I rather have the head for a law degree than a PhD in bollocks (well, that's what mine might as well be in)

Oh yes, to win the lottery would be lovely.....................................

rightyho

sillynarbie

what did these 40+ bankers say to make you change your mind? It seems a shame to have devoted this much time to a prospective career only to have your hopes dashed now at this late stage?

It was a reality wake-up call/check/moment.
You get out of banking when you are my age. You dont go into it.
Some a couple of years older than me have been made redundant.
Most agreed my personality is too confrontational and likely to be perceived as aggressive to get on in a bank - I want stuff doing yesterday, not in 10 mins time.
Nearly all of them, without being asked, expressed doubts about my ability to work under someone younger (though I dont think this would be a problem, the perception is that it would be).
I was also told that I could get a masters from Oxbridge but my first degree will still count against me because it is not one of the chosen few establishments.
In short, the profession can fcuk off.

I thought you already considered all of the above before focusing on that route? It's a shame the industry is like that but I guess there's not much you can do about it. At least you have a plan B. Is the Maths degree just for fun now then? 

kitty


I rather have the head for law

Law is easy.

In journalism, you use the smallest words possible, to make your information accessible to the lowest common denominator of reader.

In law, you purposely look for a big word where a small one would have done to try to a) confuse third parties b) attempt to justify your £120 an hour c) try to look clever.

In truth, many lawyers are barely literate, as evidenced by the posts on many of the forums for law students.

Righty i think you collect qualifications, i couldn't even do one that you have lol

sillynarbie

I thought you already considered all of the above before focusing on that route? It's a shame the industry is like that but I guess there's not much you can do about it. At least you have a plan B. Is the Maths degree just for fun now then? 

I had, mate but it seems IB is a rapidly-evolving beast just lately.
In truth, I could get into it - I have a BarCap back door. But I have also been opening doors in other industries related to finance too.
One of my wife's customers is married to a financier who is on £500k basic. He couldn't be more helpful.
The maths degree is a cornerstone of my CV.
I don't know of a single employer who doesn't perk up at the mention of the words.
Even having the interim award from the uni for a percentage of a maths degree opened a huge door last week. I will know by Easter if I am allowed to walk through that door and remain with the "chosen people".

In essence, you get out not what you put in, but what you go and look for and take.
And I am in a taking mood.
I even trained last week as well. Too stiff to do much today.

rightyho

kitty


I rather have the head for law

Law is easy.

In journalism, you use the smallest words possible, to make your information accessible to the lowest common denominator of reader.

In law, you purposely look for a big word where a small one would have done to try to a) confuse third parties b) attempt to justify your £120 an hour c) try to look clever.

In truth, many lawyers are barely literate, as evidenced by the posts on many of the forums for law students.

Well good luck with it mate, I admire you're dedication......taken me 4 years and I've not started my MSc dissertation yet!!