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 anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut?

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anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 23 February 2010 15:56 (permalink)
As the title says,

anyone ever run a low dose of deca are part of a cut?

I am planning my cut for the summer and am moving towards circuit based traning for 60 mins 3 times a week to cover upper body monday, lower wed, and both friday.  I hate cardio so the crcuits are a good way for me to incorporate some multijoint moves, kettle bels etc and minimal rest to keep heart rate pumped.

I was planning on running a low dose of test, maybe 250-500mg e/w and maybe some mast, but then I thought that a low dose of deca may help as Im doing a 10 week cut (nice n slow) and since I won't b lifting heavy I should b able to give my joints, tendons a body time to recover from the last few months of heavy training and figured a wee tad of deca would help.

Is this a daft idea?

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    Re:anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 24 February 2010 03:52 (permalink)
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      Re:anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 24 February 2010 04:10 (permalink)
      I wouldn't use Deca as you are likely to suffer from water retention, which will give you a smoother look as apposed to the 'ripped' look. This will be counter productive to your goal.

      if you wanted to add something with your your test cycle, the choise of drugs would be, tren/primo/var/winny. Clen/ ephedrine. I Would even say Equipoise over deca for your goals.
       
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        Re:anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 24 February 2010 04:20 (permalink)
        I certainly wouldnt recommend Deca for a cut cycle. As already mentioned it is notorius for water weight gain and will make you look soft and puffy. Also, I dont know the rest of your situation or plan, but Deca is very inhibitory to your regular test. production when you come off your cycle.I have seen many cases of people not recovering natural test production fully. If this happens to you, you will waste your gains during a long slow recovery from the Deca.
         
        I screwed my whole system up with Deca. The gains were good. Strength was good. Joints felt good also. Problem was trying to restore my natural test production.... I would only recommend Deca for somebody who is already on HRT.
         
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          Re:anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 24 February 2010 07:51 (permalink)
          This time last year in prep for my holiday i ran 250mgs of sust every 18 days, and 500mgs of decca every 7 days,  for just over 12 weeks. Lost 2 stone and my condition was very good. Try it stew, may work for you as well.








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            Re:anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 24 February 2010 13:21 (permalink)
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            This time last year in prep for my holiday i ran 250mgs of sust every 18 days, and 500mgs of decca every 7 days,  for just over 12 weeks. Lost 2 stone and my condition was very good. Try it stew, may work for you as well.


            Hi guys, thanks for the advice -- I am using 600mg deca, 400mg tren and 1g of test just now. The test since jan, the tren since begin of feb and the deca for a week or so.  My weight flutates massively when using tren, for example on the weeks running up to it I gained

            wk1: +2
            wk2: +4
            wk3: +2
            wk4 +4
            all this on test then it went
            wk5: +0
            wk6: -2
            wk7: -2
            wk8; -2

            wtf!!! PB's are coming, body comp changig and caloories getting force fed, I've been on the deca now a week and 2 days and see now difference in water weight (thanks to my mate aromasin, luvly med) and am heading to the gym just now in the snow.

            @ SL I planned to run the cut for 10 weeks then dropped to 250mg test every 2nd week for about 8 weeks as I am blasting and crusing, so not overly concerned with recovery, plus I react very very well with hcg which gets run for a 3 weeks every 7 weeks or so which keeps me good.

            Cheers for the feedback.

            btw I cut on mast and dbol with t4 3 years ago and dropped 2 stone in 5 weeks lol!!!
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            Squat: 190Kg 1RM
            Deadlift: 220kg 1RM
             
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              Re:anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 24 February 2010 20:12 (permalink)
              deca is ok for cut ive used it in the first 8 weeks of a 16 week contest prep it doesnt matter what you use provided your diet and cardio are on point you will get in condition
              any questions happy to assist training/nutrition/gear !

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                Re:anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 24 February 2010 20:26 (permalink)
                You seem to be making a common mistake by dropping your weights and expecting the circuits to cut fat. There is no substitute for cardio and by dropping the weights you will lose the muscle you have (hopefully) built.

                So advice, forget the gear, that won't get you out of trouble if you're training's wrong.

                Keep the weights in, add cardio at least 3 x 30mins per week and cut the rubbish out of your diet.
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                  Re:anyone ever run a low dose of deca as part of a cut? 24 February 2010 21:57 (permalink)
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                  You seem to be making a common mistake by dropping your weights and expecting the circuits to cut fat. There is no substitute for cardio and by dropping the weights you will lose the muscle you have (hopefully) built.

                  So advice, forget the gear, that won't get you out of trouble if you're training's wrong.

                  Keep the weights in, add cardio at least 3 x 30mins per week and cut the rubbish out of your diet.



                  Perhaps  haven't explained propery mate but instead of my higher rep training which put on 10lbs in the last 3 months of last year and the pyramid training I reverted back to in jan which has put another 8lbs on I am simply training "slightly lighter"

                  i.e current 60x10,80x8, 100x8, 130x8 140kg x6, 155x2 bench press with 3 mins rest between would change to 60x10,80x8, 100x8, 130x8, 138x8, 120x10, 100-failure with a minute rest.

                  on other days I would superset this with lat pulls etc. so there isn't a lack of weight or a lack of reps, simply a different aproach to training to use up more calories in the gym

                  A mate of mine is a mma fighter and I did a few circuits late last year, and for those who say it in't cardio then I welcome them to try it, I got up to 180 on my heart rate monitor the first time and I only did a 20 minute session on 9 stations including kettle bell work.

                  Appreciate the advice regarding the diet, but thats never an issue when I cut only when I bulk as I find it difficult consuming so many "clean" cals lol!

                  Lowest bf I've been caliper tested at was 12% after a 5 week diet and cut mentioned previoulsy (was 32% beforehand) -- but I d drop muscle due to the fact I did gym 3 days a week, tabata training twice and steady cardio once hence trying to change it up this time

                  cheers fellas
                  Stats:

                  Bench: 165Kg 1RM
                  Squat: 190Kg 1RM
                  Deadlift: 220kg 1RM
                   
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