best compound for Mass??

What is the best Prohormone to take for bulking and avoid the 'depression' and lethargy which I experienced with superdrol!!!

sl

i gained a stone on protodrol - felt lethargic at times but no depression- it's mild on the liver too

Maybe, pplex, it is now banned, but some shops do still sell it.

Agree with pheraplex if you can find it, still available from some stores

sd is the daddy mate -

failing that pplex i suppose - not a huge fan

cant ou source dbol or oxys?

mdm


sd is the daddy mate -

failing that pplex i suppose - not a huge fan

cant ou source dbol or oxys?

Dbol and oxys will just add water and very little solid muscle after pct.

Come on Reggie - your spamming really is unsubtle and just a waste of my time deleting posts

Same goes for you Iron Labs - whilst you're not as subtle as Predator, you know the rules and as the product you mention is in your stocklist, and was not asked about in the thread, you know your post is not allowed

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mdm


sd is the daddy mate -

failing that pplex i suppose - not a huge fan

cant ou source dbol or oxys?

Dbol and oxys will just add water and very little solid muscle after pct.

have you everrun dbol or oxys?

if that were the case then why do people run dbol only cycles and gain well - water is down to diet ime or lack of it - some meds are more forgiving than others


celt - qudos

P-mag is quite mild IME, similar to h-drol

I would definately say pplex or another pheraplex clone is what you should be looking at in the designer steroids section if mass is your priority
 
IIRC you have problems with MPB?  If so, I would actually avoid pplex IME
 
A mate of mine recently had good results with 50mg epi daily - but he is rather advanced
 

Yes Epistane at a higher dose might be an interesting way of tackling it, of course another approach would be regular dosing but for a longer cycle. This way you could use any of the slightly less potent PHs out there and so hopefully avoid some of the sides you experienced with SD but still run a cycle that yields good mass gains - though perhaps still not as good as witth SD.

In my experiences Epistane was more of a recomp/strength PH, whereas the other common 'first time cycle' PH tends to give more in the way of mass gains, so an extended cycle of this (or indeed slightly higher dose) might work very well - have a look through some logs for inspiration as a lot of guys do this.

Celt


Same goes for you Iron Labs - whilst you're not as subtle as Predator, you know the rules and as the product you mention is in your stocklist, and was not asked about in the thread, you know your post is not allowed

Sorry, slightly confused by this... doesn't the same surely apply to hero's post above and Daari's post?? (sorry to point you out guys, just unsure why my post was singled out here!!!)

^ No worries :) I think it's because my post was a genuine suggestion to the OP, but your post looked a bit more pushy in terms of focusing on your product.

Agree Iron Labs - Hero's first post was as bad as yours - now duly deleted.

What makes Hero's post worse is that I disagree entirely  The compound mentioned is nowhere near the likes of SD or pplex for mass ime


Whilst a grey area I agree, Daari's post is ok imo given that pretty generic terms are used (which I suppose Iron Labs could dispute was the same in their case).


You all have access to the rules guys, I will apply as fairly as I can, but would ask that all make efforts to observe and post within expectations.

^ Lol. Thanks a bunch Iron Labs!!! :P

HeroSupplements


^ Lol. Thanks a bunch Iron Labs!!! :P

lol  it's like the school playground again!

Agree with some earlier posts I found SD to be both a short cycle (compared to 6 weeks HDrol) and the gains were more solid and retain-able in terms of mass (less watery).

But we all react differently - I had no noticeable sides (depression/lethargy etc) on SD and will defo run again while I found HDrol did raise BP and the gains dropped somewhat in PCT , still a good starter PH though IMO

Man MT and its Militant rules.





But to the OP, best bets are probably Phera or Dbol.

Dbol will put on a lot of water weight, but to say you won't gain muscle mass (most of the weight gained will be water) is nonsense. 

I myself will be running my first Phera cycle soon, 4-6 weeks, 20-30mg ED.

Will be able to chime in with personal experience after that run.

(also many users report of a "euphoric" feeling whilst running phera)

s12345x

mdm


sd is the daddy mate -

failing that pplex i suppose - not a huge fan

cant ou source dbol or oxys?

Dbol and oxys will just add water and very little solid muscle after pct.

Dbols add a lot more than "just water"