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"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 08:17 (permalink)
I've been looking up for my next cycle and came across this 1
http://www.trainwiser.com...st-steroid-cycles-702/
" 4. A Biggy from Trident Trident claims this is his favourite cycle which he has done a few times:

Weeks 1 - 4 Sustanon 250 - 1,000mg per week Testaviron depot - 1,000mg per week Anadrol50 / Anapolan 50 - 100mg per day

Weeks 5 - 8 Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week Testaviron depot - 1,500mg per week Dianabol / Anabol - 50mg per day Deca durabolan - 400mg per week

Weeks 9 - 12 Sustanon 250 - 500mg per week Testaviron depot - 250mg per week Deca durabolan - 400mg per week

Nolvadex 10mg per day all through Proviron - 50mg per day weeks 2 to 6. Commence Clomid week 10 - 50mgs per day for 14 days HCG - 2 shots per week of 2500iu with the Clomid

This is a big cycle, and very androgenic. Like me, Trident swears by Testaviron. Side effects may be high, hence the use of Nolvadex throughout, and the use of Clomid commencing 14 days afterwards, and HCG before the end of the cycle. The use of HCG gets your own testosterone levels up before any fall in androgens. There is a degree of tapering in this cycle due to its high testosterone amounts."

This seems like a big cycle to me and I was wondering if it was safe and what's your opinion on the PCT.
Also I've seen posts on people running a cycle for 6 months again is this safe and what would the difference be in PCT.
I've been training for a few years now and done a couple of cycles, but I really don't understand the maths of the whole thing as there seems to be a lot of debates over almost every aspect of steroids.
 
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    Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 08:27 (permalink)
     1,500mg per week Dianabol  most ive been to is 500mg per week and bp was silly 
     
    But the rest of the cycle is not that big to be honest you will probaly find some on here run higher as a regular cycle ..
     
    But fook dbol at 200mg per day thats just silly 
     
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      Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 08:33 (permalink)
      You've misunderstood it bud, 50 mg dbol a day.
      The reason I ask is I've heard of people "burning out" on juice but what does that mean. I know your tests can shut down but how much would u have to do to cause it.
       
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        Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 08:44 (permalink)
        natural test will shut down on any aas cycle, think your
        talking about saturating your receptors? How many cycles have you done.
         
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          Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 08:45 (permalink)

          The reason I ask is I've heard of people "burning out" on juice but what does that mean

           
          I have absolutely no idea.
           

          . I know your tests can shut down but how much would u have to do to cause it.

           
          Very little, and with the above cycle, maybe a week.








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            Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 08:53 (permalink)
            This will be my 5th/6th cycle.
            I just really wanna know how much I should be taking, how do u know how much is safe, or is there a bench mark.
            Also I mean permanent shut down or is it just hit and miss.
             
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              Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 09:08 (permalink)
              Oh misunderstood 50mg is fine  
               
              For your 5th cycle i would just stick to a 1g of test and 800mg of deca unless you have run that a few times already .Oral kick-start job done 
               
               
               
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                Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 09:32 (permalink)
                Crazy for 5/6 cycle
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                  Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 10:12 (permalink)
                  Thanx for the reply everone.
                  think I'll take it easy thoon, my last cycle was taken from the same site , sus + deca twice a week x 12 weeks and 30mg dbol for first 4. And I don't think my tests kicked back in properly afterwards. What's my next step.
                   
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                    Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 10:16 (permalink)
                    Sust and deca for 12 weeks is a fairly standard cycle ..Did you run a good PCT after ..
                     
                    If your test levels are low from your last cycle why dont you go with a test only cycle 
                     
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                      Re:"big cycle"??? 20 January 2012 10:29 (permalink)
                      I haven't got tested don't even know where to get it done,
                      Yes I run the pct nova Clomid, for 3 weeks - three weeks after last shot that was 6 months ago. And I've had ed ever since I didn't realise it may have been because of the juice till I read up about it.... Thought it was a mental issue, still do in away. I was thinking about starting a new cycle and hope they kicked in after the PCT.
                      I got most of my info from the guy that introduced me to steroids and he doesn't even know what pct is he runs his constant I'd love to know hoe he gets away with it.

                      How much test a week and what pct would u recommend.
                      Thanx in advance
                       
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                        Re:"big cycle"??? 22 January 2012 21:55 (permalink)
                        Id have to disagree that this is a very high dosage
                        most of that stuff is going straight out your urine
                        apparently the bodys receptor sites can only handle around 1ml every 3 days
                        not to mention the expense
                         
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                          Re:"big cycle"??? 23 January 2012 09:13 (permalink)
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                          Id have to disagree that this is a very high dosage
                          most of that stuff is going straight out your urine
                          apparently the bodys receptor sites can only handle around 1ml every 3 days
                          not to mention the expense

                           
                          Really you got any proof? and I disagree with this comment
                           
                          Would be interesting to read what you have tho...
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                            Re:"big cycle"??? 23 January 2012 09:32 (permalink)
                            insert10p


                            Id have to disagree that this is a very high dosage
                            most of that stuff is going straight out your urine
                            apparently the bodys receptor sites can only handle around 1ml every 3 days
                            not to mention the expense

                            Most is going out your urine? How so? I didnt know depot sites go straight to your bladder? Can you tell us where you heard of this, as Im fascinated to know?
                            1ml every 3 days? Thats intresting... again, where did you hear of this and can you show us your figures and facts?
                            Expense? Yeah, things cost money. What a world eh?

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                              Re:"big cycle"??? 23 January 2012 10:15 (permalink)
                              i disagree with the 1ml every 3days purely the fact that test is dosed at different mg/ml. Therefore 1ml could be either 100mg anything upto 400mg.
                               
                              If there is a study please enlighten me :)
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                                Re:"big cycle"??? 24 January 2012 23:02 (permalink)
                                have to admity got no evidence for that opinionising
                                but i was told it by one of the biggest guys in the gym
                                 
                                anyway
                                on another point those dosages may be being taken by guys who are like 280 lbs and if youre like 140 (just to keep the maths easy) surely you can see where im leading...?
                                 
                                i happily withdraw my comments as uninformed
                                 
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