bookies roulette

Interesting comment. I wonder if there's a general lack of understanding from the typical player of these machines regarding the odds favour? I wonder what would happen if there were a big warning sign on every machine stating that it wiil take 3% of money staked over it's life so although there is a chance you'll win, if you play it often enough, you will probably end up losing money

 
The average person's understanding of probability is pretty much non-existent. But I think most gamblers know that the odds on the machines are stacked against them, just as they know all gambling is stacked against them but they will play anyway for the buzz. As long as they get some winning days along with the losing days they'll keep doing it for the fun it gives them, and that's how gambling should be approached provided you spend within your means.
 
And yes, all games on our machines now have a message saying what the average percentage payout is (anywhere from 86-99% depending on the game). People don't completely understand what this means (i.e.the long run nature of it) and sometimes moan that if it pays out 90% how come they've lost all their money?

stuck a fiver in this morning , zero came in twice in a row, luckily i had 40p on it both times, walked with 30, four spins on the bounce then last bet nothing so walked while up with 30.
 
it fuels the car for a few days! lol

A lot of paranoia in here, those machines are all about consumer confidence. All it would take is it to be proven they were rigged and no one would use = massive loss of revenue
 
It isn't worth rigging them when human gambling fallacy and odds in the bookies favour do a good enough job

invictused


A lot of paranoia in here, those machines are all about consumer confidence. All it would take is it to be proven they were rigged and no one would use = massive loss of revenue

 
But it does not realy work that way for a number of reasons. The main one being the rule of 'hard luck'.
 
The betting shops, the head offices, the authorities etc follow this rule and there is no real confidence factor at all as the employment of rule two comes into play which is 'well dont gamble if your not happy'.
 
And thats what you will find if you make any formal complaint against the operators of these machines
 
The Gambling commission covers most aspects of gambling yet all these aspects are rigged left right and centre which has been proven beyond doubt by the many who have got popped while the mass get away with it. Its done very little to combat fraud and under cover news reporters beat them hands down with info lol.
 

I sometimes mess about on them.
Like trident says when its time to pay out it pays out big and when its not well it will eat all your money up. I have seen the same number come up 4 times in a row on tw oseperate occasions.
 
They make the bookies a lot of profit and you see people throw £100's into them- which to me is crazy!
 
Anyone who thinks they can beat these machines are being silly. No business would put them in a shop if that was the case.
 
Also I have noticed there has been a major increase in bookies, one on every corner! Any time you walk in people are all over these machines.

I'd say 7/10 times I've done roulette on machines I've more than quadrupled my stake, always seems an easy one to me, plus, as above, very easy to walk away from having lost initial stake.
 
Unlike fruities, with all their flashing lights and promises of wealth....
 
There's nothing bar randomness with roulette machines as far as I am aware, fruit machines have a payout structure to work to, which can be used to your advantage if you have timed getting on there right, or ahve deep enough pockets to keep pushing it.
 
I've stopped playing both - I'd rather go with the 100% change of enjoying a better meal/pint than losing it !

I've seen bad numbers hit 3 times in a row. i've also seen my best number come up 3 times out of 5 spins, when I was playing 80 dollar spins. You can't have it both ways. The brain just likes to focus on the negative and think they are rigged. It happens in poker, catching some really lucky river cards at hold em and then getting sick beats on the river time and time again. its called, the highs and lows of gambling. TBF its up to people to prove the games are guilty rather than vice versa. I can hardly say 'I have magic fairies at the end of my garden' prove they dont exist, and if you can;t they must be real. Its a very poor argument

Red Bull


its called, the highs and lows of gambling. TBF its up to people to prove the games are guilty rather than vice versa. I can hardly say 'I have magic fairies at the end of my garden' prove they dont exist, and if you can;t they must be real. Its a very poor argument

 
TBH thats my point exactly and why remote gambling is so easy to fix. Your quote is very true but on the side of the Casino machine operators rather than the customers. Its a good line,I like it,lol
 
The customer would be expected to prove the outfit was rigged yet he has no way on Earth to do this as he cannot gain access to any data and has no route to take to prove anything at all. Its the perfect system to rob people blind!
 
Based on that alone the argument point is sound.
 
 
 
 
 

Yeah I suppose. The lottery's all fake too they probably keep more of the stakes. And when you put petrol they have camera's to check to see you are pouring it direct into your car and thus not measuring it accurately and then syphon 10% off. No one will know. Same for premium bonds I'd imagine. Online poker nobody really wins tournaments, they stack the cards so they guy's gran that owns pokerstars, wins satelites to the WSOP. The list is endless

Red Bull


Yeah I suppose. The lottery's all fake too they probably keep more of the stakes. And when you put petrol they have camera's to check to see you are pouring it direct into your car and thus not measuring it accurately and then syphon 10% off. No one will know. Same for premium bonds I'd imagine. Online poker nobody really wins tournaments, they stack the cards so they guy's gran that owns pokerstars, wins satelites to the WSOP. The list is endless

 
Im sure the people in the situations you mention are all good honest and wholesome people who could do no wrong, this would set them apart from 90% of the business World.

Cant believe anyone would still play these machine tbh.  Occasionally I'll watch guys play them, its alarmingly usually youngsters playing them now.  This is the future for high street bookies imo.  The shameless way staff are encouraging the youth to them is shocking.  Free sweeties/crisps beside the machines, free shots of games, have a shot at the competition!  They ram it down your throat ever time you go in to put a line on.  Its not to dissimilar to drug dealers giving out free samples.  As I said previously their fun for a fiver, anything more and you'll lose the lot.  
 

http://www.racingpost.com...es-profits/988212/top/
 
£360.9 million. Not too bad hey.

damn! At least a fiver of that is mine!