cigarettes & alcohol

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infidel

Bill45


Used to drink quite a lot and smoke a bit when i was younger. For me, smoking and lifting weights is a bad mix, shouldn't do it under any circumstances. As for drinking, a bit now and then is fine. If by drinking you mean going out and getting pissed on a regular basis, then no, it is incompatible with going to the gym. 

try telling that to arnold swarzenegger.
regular piss head he was.

Myth.

wrong, i`m afraid.
both his father and brother drank like fish, too.
i saw arnie many times in germany (i used to live there)
he was a regular in quite a few bars in and around munich.
this was before he gained international recognition, but everyone could see he was destined for great things.
anyhow, he loved his drink.

Reborn

infidel

Reborn

infidel


the negative eefect that alcohol has on hormones has yet to be proven.

No it hasn't, that kind of "Bro-science" statement really annoys me.
 
" hormones to function properly, their amount and the timing of their release must be finely coordinated, and the target tissues must be able to respond to them accurately. Alcohol can impair the functions of the hormone-releasing glands and of the target tissues, thereby causing serious medical consequences.

Hormones control four major areas of body function: production, utilization, and storage of energy; reproduction; maintenance of the internal environment (e.g., blood pressure and bone mass); and growth and development"

thank you for that.
now can you send me the links to the medical findings?
thanks in advance.

Talk to a doctor any doctor and do your own google search, you'll turn up a wealth of medical evidence.

that isn`t medical evidence, it is medical opinion. a big difference.
as it happens, i agree with you, but it still isn`t proven.
when i was a kid, the medical profession advocated cigarettes to relive stress, which i suppose it does.
 

another thing.
marcus rhul smokes, and he doesn`t look too shabby.
most of the eastern blocks olympic weightlifting teams smoke , and drink up to a litre of vodka per man per day.
they are practicaly unbeatable!
who is going to tell me that is a myth?

infidel


another thing.
marcus rhul smokes, and he doesn`t look too shabby.
most of the eastern blocks olympic weightlifting teams smoke , and drink up to a litre of vodka per man per day.
they are practicaly unbeatable!
who is going to tell me that is a myth?

Im not quite sure what you are getting at, they may do all the things you say, but sooner or later it will affect their performance negatively.

Don't judge me becasue I fell, judge me if I don't get up.

Youth IS wasted on the young.

infidel


another thing.
marcus rhul smokes, and he doesn`t look too shabby.
most of the eastern blocks olympic weightlifting teams smoke , and drink up to a litre of vodka per man per day.
they are practicaly unbeatable!
who is going to tell me that is a myth?

Just out of curiousity, how do you know they smoke/drink so much?
I just doubt it personally but would love to know how you know this.
 
I just can't believe any professional athlete's would do that. You need everything in check to reach your limits i.e. diet, training and liftstyle. Smoking and drinking take you further away from reaching your limits. So why would they if they want to compete and be the best.
 
I call shenanigans.
 
 

de_poye

infidel


another thing.
marcus rhul smokes, and he doesn`t look too shabby.
most of the eastern blocks olympic weightlifting teams smoke , and drink up to a litre of vodka per man per day.
they are practicaly unbeatable!
who is going to tell me that is a myth?

Just out of curiousity, how do you know they smoke/drink so much?
I just doubt it personally but would love to know how you know this.
 
I just can't believe any professional athlete's would do that. You need everything in check to reach your limits i.e. diet, training and liftstyle. Smoking and drinking take you further away from reaching your limits. So why would they if they want to compete and be the best.
 
I call shenanigans.
 
 

He read it somewhere and now its gospel.

Don't judge me becasue I fell, judge me if I don't get up.

Youth IS wasted on the young.

infidel


another thing.
marcus rhul smokes, and he doesn`t look too shabby.
most of the eastern blocks olympic weightlifting teams smoke , and drink up to a litre of vodka per man per day.
they are practicaly unbeatable!
who is going to tell me that is a myth?

It may not be a myth but it is hardly a common sense approach
Your talking about genetically superior athletes no doubt on PED, whose full time job is to train and compete. (Imagine how good they would be if they didnt smoke or drink)
 
You cannot compare this to the average Joe who has a full time job, 3 kids, is on a budget for food etc.
 
It is a bit like a bank you can only take out what you put in. For the average trainer drinking and smoking is adding too much to the deficit list along with stress from work, family and training.