does cannabis affect when on gear?

Page: < 12345 > Showing page 4 of 5
Author
ZEn101
Olympian Member
  • Total Posts : 603
  • Reward points: 1606
  • Joined: 2006/06/06 22:16:21
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/22 18:40:28 (permalink)
There definately is an element of personnality to it; but im convinced from experience i have had and my friends that there is a genetic link to how it 'selects' it's prey so to speak. I stopped 2 weeks ago; so pleased!
On a particulairly high note i smashed my shoulders in earlier, and im still pumped!!!
#61
Paracelsus
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 6450
  • Reward points: 6754
  • Joined: 2006/06/17 03:03:07
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/22 23:30:19 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: ZEn101

There definately is an element of personnality to it; but im convinced from experience i have had and my friends that there is a genetic link to how it 'selects' it's prey so to speak.


There certainly is

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1078876.ece
#62
MB14
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 1320
  • Reward points: 4530
  • Joined: 2006/12/11 19:55:12
  • Location: across the pond.
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 00:08:19 (permalink)
that article really makes me wanna quit!
i cant go to bed without it sometimes.

-what would i do if i didnt have this hustle, where would i go if i didnt have this muscle.-jeezy

-you can go ahead and put a little * by my name because i'm all assisted.

#63
bobboe
New Member
  • Total Posts : 25
  • Reward points: 444
  • Joined: 2008/01/08 14:53:48
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 00:42:58 (permalink)
mb14 i use to smoke a q of cronic a day now i just take roids lol seeing as your on line could we share some knoledge?
#64
MB14
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 1320
  • Reward points: 4530
  • Joined: 2006/12/11 19:55:12
  • Location: across the pond.
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 02:07:49 (permalink)
whats up man?

-what would i do if i didnt have this hustle, where would i go if i didnt have this muscle.-jeezy

-you can go ahead and put a little * by my name because i'm all assisted.

#65
weebiceps
Universe Member
  • Total Posts : 406
  • Reward points: 1434
  • Joined: 2006/08/31 03:59:05
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 02:15:05 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: MB14

that article really makes me wanna quit!
i cant go to bed without it sometimes.


I was same. But I found L-trytophan with some fruit juice knocks me out within 1 hour at most. Best product I've ever discovered. NO ****, better than weed for dozing off. Sweet dreams too. I sometimes take with ZMA.
#66
weebiceps
Universe Member
  • Total Posts : 406
  • Reward points: 1434
  • Joined: 2006/08/31 03:59:05
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 02:17:29 (permalink)
ORIGINAL: Paracelsus


ORIGINAL: ZEn101

There definately is an element of personnality to it; but im convinced from experience i have had and my friends that there is a genetic link to how it 'selects' it's prey so to speak.


There certainly is

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1078876.ece



I used to smoke ****loads of weed from about 13 years old for a year or two. My brain has never been the same since. Got big mental probs at the time. I believe marijuana fckued me up but it's too late now even though I barley toke much since then. If I go a week of constant smoking I get paranoia. I must have bad gene.
post edited by weebiceps - 2008/02/23 02:19:04
#67
Packup Pete
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 5893
  • Reward points: 8032
  • Joined: 2004/12/28 21:26:27
  • Location: Leicestershire, UK
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 02:59:43 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: MB14

that article really makes me wanna quit!
i cant go to bed without it sometimes.

L-trytophan


Like I stated earlier I was a heavy smoker for 6 years, I grew the stuff so could practically smoke what I wanted. When I first gave up even meds such as Valium and Tamezapan couldn't get me to sleep properly. I take melatonin now and sleep like a baby every night, I really recommend it mate.
#68
ZEn101
Olympian Member
  • Total Posts : 603
  • Reward points: 1606
  • Joined: 2006/06/06 22:16:21
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 12:55:43 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: Packup Pete


ORIGINAL: MB14

that article really makes me wanna quit!
i cant go to bed without it sometimes.

L-trytophan


Like I stated earlier I was a heavy smoker for 6 years, I grew the stuff so could practically smoke what I wanted. When I first gave up even meds such as Valium and Tamezapan couldn't get me to sleep properly. I take melatonin now and sleep like a baby every night, I really recommend it mate.


Thanks for sharing.. i really need to try something; last night was 3rd night in a row without falling asleep.
#69
ant...
Universe Member
  • Total Posts : 409
  • Reward points: 4972
  • Joined: 2007/02/08 22:19:45
  • Location: Manchester
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannabis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 13:10:36 (permalink)
Thanks for sharing.. i really need to try something; last night was 3rd night in a row without falling asleep.

I agree with the melatonin, try magnesium thats harless too.

In your situation mate, stay away from the sleepers unless its just the odd one, Once you rely on those to sleep you will really know the meaning of insomnia, and thats without getting physically adicted to them.

My doctor once gave me stilnox, then next morning my house friends were upset with me, when I asked why they said id been up all night making a neusance of myself wearing just my boxers evil siht.
#70
ZEn101
Olympian Member
  • Total Posts : 603
  • Reward points: 1606
  • Joined: 2006/06/06 22:16:21
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 13:14:52 (permalink)
Will do ; i'm trying to stop all drugs regardless of what they are. They all seem to have similar effects.

As for insomnia: i have had it for a few years now, my gp said it was a conciencious issue ( things plaguing my mind ). Hence this is why it often is a by-product of drug use...i think.

Question for users with negative symptoms: Was it worth it for you? (Wasn't for me, wasted alot of years.)
#71
Packup Pete
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 5893
  • Reward points: 8032
  • Joined: 2004/12/28 21:26:27
  • Location: Leicestershire, UK
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 14:00:30 (permalink)
Zen mate, I recommend you try GABA also http://astronutrition.com/amino-acids-5/now-gaba-powder-112/

GABA (gamma aminobutyric acid) is an amino acid derivative that functions as an inhibitory neurotransmitter of the central nervous system. It is an anti-stress, anti-anxiety, calming and relaxing nutrient. It has been used clinically for depressed sex drive, prostate problems, and as a non-addictive tranquilizer substitute.

GABA is referred to as the "brain's natural calming agent." Studies have shown that GABA increases the body's sleeping cycle and patients reported much more vivid dreams and a good night's sleep.

Benefits
• promote relaxation and ease nervous tension
• has a slightly sedative effect which makes it ideal before going to bed
• acts as a balancer" for the brain where excitation is balanced with inhibition
• increases HGH (Human Growth Hormone Levels) which in turn helps decrease body fat, promotes increases in lean muscle and lower fat ratio in body composition
#72
ZEn101
Olympian Member
  • Total Posts : 603
  • Reward points: 1606
  • Joined: 2006/06/06 22:16:21
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/23 14:05:21 (permalink)
Interesting, thanks.

As a dietary supplement, GABA is typically promoted to bodybuilders and other athletes as a nutrient to help stimulate secretion of growth hormone, decrease body fat levels and increase lean muscle tissue. The problem, however, is that GABA does not cross the blood-brain barrier, so it can not get into the brain where it is active. A related compound known as GHB (gamma-hydroxybutyric acid) differs from GABA only by substitution of GABA’s amino group with a hydroxyl (OH) group – making GHB able to cross into the brain. As such, products containing GHB have been promoted as supplements to increase growth hormone levels, aid recovery from exercise and promote relaxation and sleep. GABA and GHB appear to be readily interconvertible in the brain and a number of chemically related compounds, such as GBL (gamma-butyrolactone), BD (1,4-butanediol) and furanone (2,3H-furanone di-hydro) are rapidly converted in the body into GHB. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) consider GHB and related compounds (GBL, BD, furanone) to be dangerous unapproved drugs due to their tendency to cause seizures and other adverse side effects. GABA, however, is classified as an amino acid which is legal for use as a dietary supplement.

The predominant effects of GHB are sedative. At low doses, GHB can relieve anxiety and produce relaxation – as the dose increases, however, the sedative effects result in sleep and eventual coma or death. GHB is one of a number of drugs implicated as “date rape” drugs for its effects as a central nervous system depressant. GHB also stimulates the release of growth hormone from the anterior pituitary gland – but no studies have ever shown GHB to result in positive changes in body fat levels, muscle mass or strength. Whether or not GHB works is sort of a moot point – as the FDA banned over-the-counter sale of GHB in 1990 – but it is still available in various forms (GBL, BD, furanone) in illegal dietary supplements and on the black market. Although GABA can be converted into GHB in the brain, and both appear to have power actions in certain regions of the brain, it is unclear whether orally administered GABA is converted to GHB. It does appear, however, that pituitary growth hormone release is partly regulated by blood levels of GABA. Many supplement marketers cite a single obscure Italian study as evidence that GABA increases growth hormone (GH) secretion in athletes. The study, which was conducted over 20 years ago, was carried out in fewer than 20 subjects, and while it did show an increase in blood levels of GH, it has yet to be replicated by other scientists. In more recent studies (in sheep), intravenous administration of GABA resulted in a rapid increase in plasma GH levels, while direct administration of GABA into the brain produced a significant increase in GH release. In other studies (in mice), increased concentrations of GABA in the systemic circulation have been linked to impaired liver repair. Studies which have examined glutamate supplements (glutamate can be converted into GABA) in athletes have shown a suppression of serum GH levels during exercise in cyclists receiving glutamate/arginine supplements. Another study found 10 grams of oral glutamic acid to stimulate the secretion some pituitary hormones (prolactin and cortisol), but no effect was seen on GH levels.
post edited by ZEn101 - 2008/02/23 14:09:04
#73
Paracelsus
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 6450
  • Reward points: 6754
  • Joined: 2006/06/17 03:03:07
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/24 01:34:28 (permalink)
Sleeping pills act on GABA receptors.
#74
stavross
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 4847
  • Reward points: 3975
  • Joined: 2004/08/30 22:02:32
  • Location: United Kingdom
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/24 08:46:42 (permalink)
Drugs r bad, Mmkaay!

#75
drsquat
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 1972
  • Reward points: 6136
  • Joined: 2006/03/18 16:41:16
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/24 08:53:23 (permalink)
surprised how many smokers we have on here
#76
drsquat
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 1972
  • Reward points: 6136
  • Joined: 2006/03/18 16:41:16
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/24 08:54:28 (permalink)
thought smoking cig and cannabis lowered test levels, if so surely this would be something very negative to many that are trying to keep test levels high for the sake of muscle growth etc
#77
Lancs_Mick
Senior Member
  • Total Posts : 154
  • Reward points: 6390
  • Joined: 2005/11/11 11:12:53
  • Location: Rossendale
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/24 13:49:01 (permalink)
I used to be a heavy smoker, maybe an Oz or more a week but that was when i was not working. Now I only tend to have the one before I go to bed. Sometimes if I dont have a "bed time spliff" I tend to get agitated and it takes me quite a while to get off, there is one benifit without it though, I dont seem to wake up lethargic and feel more awake!!.

Some of you late night smokers may have noticed the lack of dreams you have while sleeping stoned, this is because the weed acts like a mild stimulant which stops you from going into a deep sleep like you would if you was "sober".

Get BIG.... Or Die Trying!

#78
Paracelsus
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 6450
  • Reward points: 6754
  • Joined: 2006/06/17 03:03:07
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/24 15:48:13 (permalink)

ORIGINAL: drsquat

thought smoking cig and cannabis lowered test levels, if so surely this would be something very negative to many that are trying to keep test levels high for the sake of muscle growth etc


Like it would make a significant difference to someone using gear anyway.
#79
MB14
Pro-Member
  • Total Posts : 1320
  • Reward points: 4530
  • Joined: 2006/12/11 19:55:12
  • Location: across the pond.
  • Status: offline
RE: doe=s cannainbis affect when on gear? 2008/02/26 02:25:43 (permalink)
so gaba can cause you to die?

-what would i do if i didnt have this hustle, where would i go if i didnt have this muscle.-jeezy

-you can go ahead and put a little * by my name because i'm all assisted.

#80
Page: < 12345 > Showing page 4 of 5
Jump to:
MuscleTalk Shop - Bodybuilding Supplements
©2014 All content is copyright of MuscleTalk.co.uk and its use elsewhere is prohibited. (posting guidelines | privacy | advertise | contact us | supported by)
© 2014 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.0