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fast acting vs long esters
20 February 2010 10:18
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whats the benefits of running fast acting meds? i see some guys running 1g of test-e or cyp but only 100mg of prop eod (so 400mg a week sometimes) so does the prop just work a lot better than test-e? i know test is test, but wondered why guys dont run very high doses of prop compared to enan?
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Re:fast acting vs long esters
20 February 2010 11:12
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Main reason is because test prop is very hard to suspend in oils at high concentrations without it crashing, so if running 1g a week would mean 10ml of oil pw!! Short esters are convient for shorter cycles as they kick in alot faster than long estered test.
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Re:fast acting vs long esters
20 February 2010 11:34
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arnold84 Main reason is because test prop is very hard to suspend in oils at high concentrations without it crashing, so if running 1g a week would mean 10ml of oil pw!! Short esters are convient for shorter cycles as they kick in alot faster than long estered test. Arnold, I think the OP is questioning the fact that people appear to use smaller amounts when using short esters and they work, they get gains etc for the short cycles -- yet when they choose to run a longer cycle then almost double the doseage, therefore what is the ned to double the doseage if the short esters and lower dose is effective? Cheers
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Re:fast acting vs long esters
21 February 2010 10:36
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stewedw Arnold, I think the OP is questioning the fact that people appear to use smaller amounts when using short esters and they work, they get gains etc for the short cycles -- yet when they choose to run a longer cycle then almost double the doseage, therefore what is the ned to double the doseage if the short esters and lower dose is effective? Cheers ^^^^ this is exactly what i mean. anyone?
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Re:fast acting vs long esters
21 February 2010 20:14
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bump for the evening crew.......
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Re:fast acting vs long esters
21 February 2010 20:28
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It's something to do with the weight of the ester. Prop can carry more active substance per ml then say enanthate. For example 100mg of prop = 80mg of actual test due to ester weight 100mg of enanthate = 70mg of actual test due to ester weight. I'm no chemist so those figures are very rough but you get the idea.
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