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list of prohormones 16 February 2010 18:51 (permalink)
Is there a list of prohormones , as i keep seeing names that loosely resemble steroids  and are they all oral if so are they all liver toxic ? or are there injectable prohormones as well ?
 
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    Re:list of prohormones 17 February 2010 08:43 (permalink)
    They are mostly oral, with a few transdermal and sublingual, no injectables I know of

    And no, there are no complete lists available
     
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      Re:list of prohormones 17 February 2010 11:55 (permalink)
      I have covered most in article format but you will always see variations coming up making it hard to keep up.
       
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        Re:list of prohormones 17 February 2010 13:19 (permalink)
        Two very good threads here on most of the designer steroids & pro-hormones out there:

        OTC Hormone Chart:

        http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/89979-otc-hormone-chart.html

        DS/PH Profiles:

        http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/64820-designer-steroid-prohormone.html
         
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          Re:list of prohormones 17 February 2010 13:31 (permalink)
          Could you copy and paste these as I don't want to join anabolicminds to view?

           
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            Re:list of prohormones 17 February 2010 23:19 (permalink)
            jaguar1


            Is there a list of prohormones , as i keep seeing names that loosely resemble steroids  and are they all oral if so are they all liver toxic ? or are there injectable prohormones as well ?


            Some good beginner reading :)

            Prohormones and OTC Steroid - and Introduction

            Superdrol - or M-Drol / SD etc. (one of the more powerful PH's on the market)

            To answer your questions:

            1) Not all prohormones are liver toxic - some, like Tren clones are non-methylated and so you wouldn't need to take milk thistle whilst on cycle (it's still a wise idea to abstain from drinking and drink plenty of water however)

            2) There are no injectable prohormones - there are liquid ones, and capped ones. Every manufacturer believes their "delivery system" is best, but I think you're probably best off searching round for reviews from long term board members in order to work out which you'd like to go for.
             
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              Re:list of prohormones 17 February 2010 23:26 (permalink)
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              Could you copy and paste these as I don't want to join anabolicminds to view?


              This is the second post (see below). Worth noting that it's quite outdated...e.g. CEL now produce an Orastan A clone and Gaspari *haven't* produced one for about 3yrs or more!

              As Celt & Reggie say above, the market moves so fast I doubt anyone could keep a comprehensive list up to date! :)



              The following profiles are based on either personal experience, or through experiences mentioned within this forum. Clones are not listed (as there are WAY too many to list). If you want to compare a clone to one of the designers listed, please be sure to check the nomenclature.

              Special thanks to: Pumping Iron, Xtraflossy, Mass 69, stxnas, and all the folks on AM who've logged/shared their experiences with these compounds.

              Enjoy.

              Methoxy-TST
              Innovator: Bioscience Technologies
              Nomenclature: 17b-methoxytrienosterone
              Pill size: 2mg
              Dosages: The label recommends 2-6mg daily, but many users report only noticing effects when dosed at 8-12mg.
              Side effects: Low liver toxicity. Some users say this is a libido killer, yet others say the exact opposite. Other users report sides of thinning hair/hair loss.
              Reputation: Seemingly underdosed, methoxy-TST could be considered an underrated designer, as many users have reported some substantial gains with higher dosages.


              Epistane/Havoc/Hemaguno
              Innovators: IBE, RPN, Spectra Force
              Nomenclature: 2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
              Pill Size: 10mg or 12.5mg depending on what brand you use
              Dosages: 20-50mg
              Side Effects: Milder on liver and lipid levels than other methyls. Known to cause lower back and calf pumps.
              Reputation: There has had some spectroscopy and compound identification issues with these products, but from personal experience with it, is still a solid product. Many users have taken this compound as a solo run for gynecomastia reduction due to it's SERM-like and anti-aromatase properties. It is also a popular compound for use with the 'pulse method' of taking orals. Users can expect to see significant gains in both strength and mass.


              Pheraplex:
              Innovator: Designer Supplements
              Nomenclature: 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
              Pill Size: 10mg
              Dosages: 10-40mg
              Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profile, lower back and calf pumps, some users report aggrevation of gynecomastia with this compound.
              Reputation: Solid product for bulking. Wet gains. It is a sometimes used to jumpstart an injectable cycle. This is the less androgenic isomer in the Ergomax LMG matrix.


              Ergomax LMG
              Innovator: ALRI
              Nomenclature: 17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane & 17-methyl-delta-3-etioallocholane
              Pill Size: 10mg
              Dosages: 10-40mg
              Side effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, lower back and calf pumps, may aggrevate gynecomastia.
              Reputation: Again pretty solid for bulking. Users can expect similar gains as with pheraplex.


              Superdrol:
              Innovator: Designer Supplements
              Nomenclature: 2a, 17a-dimethyl-17ß-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one
              Pill size: 10mg
              Dosages: 10-30mg
              Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, hypoglycemia lower back and calf pumps, some users report agrivation of gynecomastia with this compound. From personal experience, it gives me a wicked rebound, that causes some flare-up.
              Reputation: Side effects vary from mild to extremely harsh, so use caution if planning your first run. Excellent dry gains. Great for bulking or cutting. Explosive strength gains.
              This is a methylated form of Drostanolone (Masteron)


              Methoxy-TRN
              Innovator: ALRI
              Nomenclature: 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone
              Pill size: 1.5mg
              Dosages: 1.5-6mg
              Side effects: Affects libido (some positively some negatively), can aggrevate gynecomastia. May cause thinning hair/ hair loss. Also another progestin.
              Reputation: This guy is a real hit or miss. Some users loved the stuff, while others did not notice anything from it. From personal experience, I've noticed increases in strength as well as decreases in bodyfat.


              Halodrol-50
              Innovator: Gaspari Nutrition
              Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-1,4-diene-3,17 diol
              Pill Size: 50mg
              Dosages: 25-75mg
              Side effects: Heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps
              Reputation: Milder than superdrol or pheraplex. Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle.
              This is a prosteroid of Turinabol.

              Prostanozol/ Orasan-E
              Innovators: ALRI, Gaspari Nutrition
              Nomenclature: [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
              Pill size: 25mg
              Dosages: 50-150mg (Although it is not uncommon to go much higher than this)
              Side effects: very few sides. Some users report thinning hair/hair loss.
              Reputation: Possibly the most mild of the designers, this compound is rarely run standalone. It is often stacked with a methyl compound for a lean bulk or cut. Very mild, yet easily maintained gains.
              This is a de-alkylated derivative of Stanozol (winstrol).


              Finigenix Magnum
              Innovators: PharmagenX
              Nomenclature: Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
              Dosages: 50-75mg
              Side effects: aggrevation of gynecomastia. This is a progestin. Expect tren-like sides.
              Reputation: This is a prohormone to dienolone (similar to M-diene). Decent for recomp and increases in strength.

              Propadrol:
              Innovator: EST Nutrition
              Nomenclures: 12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene &
              6-17 dihydroxyetiocholone-3-ol proponate
              Dosages: 1-2 caps daily
              Side effects: low side effects
              Reputation: User's who've taken it have reported great decreases in bodyfat, while increasing musclemass and strength. Not much data is present on this compound within this forum. NOTE: this is does not contain the same compound as Max LMG. They are close, but no cigar.


              Max LMG
              Innovator: ALRI
              Nomenclature: 13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one
              Pill size: 25mg
              Dosages: 25-135mg daily
              Side effects: Can easily aggrevate gynecomastia. May be a libido killer. This is another progestin.
              Reputation: A bulking compound through and through. Users can expect great recovery, and soaking WET gains.


              M-1,4ADD
              Innovator: unknown
              Nomenclature: 17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol
              Dosages: 30-90mg daily
              Side effects: heptatoxicity, slight possibility to aggrevate gyno
              Reputation: Great for a bulk. Somewhat wet gains, and decent strength gains. This is a prohormone of Dianabol. However, since dianabol and Boldenone are so very similar, it is believed that the actions of this prohormone are more similar to boldenone than to dianabol (methylboldenone).

              1,4 AD
              Innovator: Molecular Nutrition
              Dosages: 300-600mg
              Nomenclature: 1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
              Side effects: Mild
              Reputation: Very weak and not very cost-efficient at the moment. This compound is often stacked with a methyl to potentiate and accelerate gains. Cycles are usually run at a MINIMUM of 4 weeks as this one takes a few weeks to 'kick in'. Slow, steady, and easily maintainable gains. This is a prohormone of Boldenone.

              Promagnon-25
              Innovator: Peak Performance Labs
              Dosages: 25-75mg
              Nomenclature:4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
              Side effects: The usual sides associated with methylated compounds (heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps)
              Reputation: Very similar to that of Halodrol-50, although people who've tried both seem to prefer Halodrol. For a while a lot of people were conviced that these two products were one in the same. Rest assured, they are not. This is a methyl derivative of clostebol.


              Oxyguno
              Innovator: Spectra Force
              Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17 -methyl- etioallochol-4-ene- 17 -ol-3,11-dione
              Pill Size: 7.5mg
              Dosages: 7.5-22.5mg daily
              Side effects: Heptatoxicity from 17a-methylation. Very low androgenic sides.
              Reputation: This is a derivative of the fish androgen, 11-keto-testosterone. 17 alkylation improves oral bioavailability; however, the addition of a 4-chloro group greatly lowers the anabolic/androgenic potential of an already weak androgen. What we're left with is a steroid with an incredibly low Q factor (anabolic divided by androgenic). I would expect this to be a great addition for cutting or possibly recomp, but a poor choice for bulking or looking to gain strength.

              Furaguno/ Orastan-A
              Innovators: Spectra Force / Gaspari Nutrition
              Pill Size: 33mg
              Nomenclature: 5a0androstano[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
              Dosages: 33-99mg daily
              Side Effects: very mild
              Reputation: Supposedly lowers cholesterol, increases androgenic receptor activity, and does not induce any heptatoxicity. This product is too young on the market to have developed a reputation yet. Get some, log it, and let us know so I can update this compound's profile. This is a prosteroid to furazabol.

              11-oxo/Adrenodione
              Innovator: Anabolic Xtreme / Ergopharm
              Pill Size: 150mg
              Dosages: 450mg
              Nomenclature: andrenosterone, 11-oxo-androstenedione, or 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione (all mean the same thing)
              Side effects: Mild
              Reputation: This prohormone has a great affinity for blocking conversion to cortisol. User's report great changes in body composition, namely significant fatloss. If you're looking for some mass gains, you might opt for something else.


              3-AD
              Innovator: Anabolic Xtreme
              Pill Size: Prop Blend
              Dosages: 4-6 caps of Prop Blend
              Nomenclature: 2-androstenol acetate and androsterone (3-hydroxy-17-oxo-5a-androstane)
              Side effects: Mild
              Reputation: As per the testing logs, this compound is been shown to cause great gains in mass, mild strength, can be kinda wet (although it is non-aromatizable). I would prefer to compare this to something like 4-AD, from back in the day. Very mild side effects.

              Any additions/corrections you think should be made, just bump the thread, and I'll fix them when I have the time.

               
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