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Papa Lazarou Total Posts : 27806 Reward points : 5612 Joined: 16/02/2006 Location: Gaspari Nutrition UK Rep	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 26 October 2009 23:26 Good luke mate Gaspari Rep Sports Nutrition - Supplements with Free UK Delivery!

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 27 October 2009 13:23

Papa Lazarou

Strength is oddly high - cannot account for it myself. Shoulder presses has suffered a little but if anything its down to endurance and tiredness (due to low test) rather than anything in terms of strength.

Pct is:
Weeks 1-3 500iu HGC EOD for 20 day in total (eg 5000iu over 20 days)
Weeks 1-8 1mg Adex EOD
Weeks 1-4 Nolva (using standard protocol extend for a little longer)
Weeks 1-4 Clomid (using standard protocol extend for a little longer)

May run nolva again for another 3 weeks as i've been on for about 18 months with a couple of 8ish week breaks. Off til end of January. I know I wouldnt be recovered, but the main thing is to return some normality to the body for 4-5 months.

looks like a good solid pct, i will be doing something similiar once i have competed next year.

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Glad my misses has a coil tho - with the HGC and clomid i've ran I could fill a swimming pool in a couple of days LOL

I didn't need quite so much information

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 28 October 2009 20:58

Back & Biceps

DB Row
Warm Up 45k x 12, 55k x 12,
Working 70k x 10, 70k x 10, 70k x 8, 70k x 8, 70k x 6 - 10 deep breath's between sets - working to perhaps consider Doggcrapp principles...

Machine Row
285lb x 10, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 8

Standing V Bar Pulldown (warm up for below)
80lb x 10, 120lb x 10, 150lb x 10, 170lb x 8

Seated V Bar Pulldown
200lb x 10, 200lb x 10, 200lb x 10, 200lb x 10

Wide Grip Pulldown
220lb x 10, 220lb x 8, 220lb x 10, 220lb x 10

Supersetted by...
Concentration Curls
35lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 35lb x 10 - really pumped arms after this

Machine Curl
150lb x 12, 150lb x 12, 180lb x 12, 180lb x 8, 180lb x 6 - minimal rest between sets - going for pump over weight

Good workout. Felt quite sick/green after it tho LOL

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 29 October 2009 20:40

Legs

Leg Press
Warm Up 260k x 20, 260k x 20
Working 360k x 20, 360k x 20, 360k x 18, 360k x 12, 360k x 12, 360k x 10, 360k x 9 - 10 deep breaths between sets

Hack Squats (with BB)
100k x 10, 100k x 10, 100k x 10, 100k x 10

Machine Ham Curl
270lb x 15, 270lb x 15, 270lb x 15, 270lb x 15

Supersetted by...
Leg Extensions
240lb x 15, 240lb x 15, 240lb x 15, 240lb x 15

Calf Raises
200kg x 10, 200kg x 10 - stopped at this point due to legs not wanting to do this exercise after leg pressing!

DB Lunges
70lb x 20, 70lb x 20

Legs feel dead after the leg pressing today. Gonna do hack squat machine early next week in a similar way to leg press and then some 20 rep squats

Loving it!

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 31 October 2009 16:50

Chest, Shoulders & Triceps

Smith Incline Bench
60k x 10, 100k x 10, 120k x 10, 130k x 10

then with 10 breaths rest between
130k x 10, 130k x 3, 130k x 2, 130k x 2, 130k x 1

Skull Crushers
45k x 10, 47.5k x 10, 45k x 10 45k x 10 - 47k was just too heavy to keep elbows in so lowered back

OH Standing Shoulder Press Machine
120k x 10, 120k x 8, 120k x 8, 120k x 8

Front DB Raises (each arm)
30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10

Supersetted by...
Bent Over Raises (each arm)
30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10

Supersetted by...
Machine Chest Press
195lb x 10, 225lb x 10, 225lb x 10, 225lb x 10

Reverse Grip Cable Pulldown
80lb x 10, 90lb x 10, 90lb x 10, 90lb x 10

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 02 November 2009 21:05

Back & Biceps

DB Row
55k x 10, 55k x 10
70k x 10, 70k x 10, 70k x 7, 70k x 8

Machine Row
285lb x 10, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 8, 285lb x 8

Wide Grip Pulldown
220lb x 8, 220lb x 8, 220lb x 8, 220lb x 8

Supersetted with...
Concentration Curl (each arm)
35lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 35lb x 10

DB Incline Curls
45lb x 10, 45lb x 10, 45lb x 10, 45lb x 10

Supersetted by...

DB Shrugs
85lb x 10, 85lb x 8, 85lb x 7, 85lb x 6

Machine Curls
170lb x 10, 180lb x 10, 170lb x 10, 170lb x 10

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dazc Total Posts : 24808 Reward points : 7692 Joined: 02/04/2003 Location: United Kingdom	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 02 November 2009 21:18 you do the db rows one side at a time or both together? BODY TEMPLE GASPARI & SYNTRAX rep. My journal Biomechanics coach

Papa Lazarou Total Posts : 27806 Reward points : 5612 Joined: 16/02/2006 Location: Gaspari Nutrition UK Rep	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 02 November 2009 21:27 One at a time - can you imagine me doing 140kg at the same time?! LOL Gaspari Rep Sports Nutrition - Supplements with Free UK Delivery!

dazc Total Posts : 24808 Reward points : 7692 Joined: 02/04/2003 Location: United Kingdom	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 02 November 2009 21:42 Papa Lazarou One at a time - can you imagine me doing 140kg at the same time?! LOL 70kg is pretty good going! does the grip hold out for the sets? BODY TEMPLE GASPARI & SYNTRAX rep. My journal Biomechanics coach

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 02 November 2009 21:53

Grip is now the easy part - its the pull up of the DB to the chest without it rotating forward or back thats harder. Stops me going up to 80kg as I cannot control the rotation and it hurts the wrists.

But yeah, i'm well chuffed with 70kg - its funny 55kg feels stupidly light these days. Such a change from 6 months back

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 03 November 2009 22:40

Changed routine to EOD now just about (where life allows) as being off AAS and recovering means I'm a lot more tired and want to ensure that I get enough rest and allow the body to recouperate. For now, its maintaining what I have.

In late Jan, it will be adding to what i've got

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 03 November 2009 23:50

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Changed routine to EOD now just about (where life allows) as being off AAS and recovering means I'm a lot more tired and want to ensure that I get enough rest and allow the body to recouperate. For now, its maintaining what I have.

In late Jan, it will be adding to what i've got

i changed to having more rest days after my comp, and the last month has been alot better for the extra recovery time, be interesting to see how you find it! seems weird at first not goint to the gym so much!

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 04 November 2009 00:03

It is weird and a little depressing but with low test and as I recover I simply don't have the energy to power thro 5 workouts in 7 days without feeling utterly burnt out.

3 in 7 is much more do-able and gives me time to recover and the strength to stay high - certainly incline smith benching 120k + 20kg bar weight (I call it that as its meant to float but when it has weight on it sticks!) when off cycle i'm enjoying greatly.

Just received 5 x 300iu's of long acting slin. Not sure whether to kick them off in my recovery period or just save it all for my bulk in Jan?

Jans planned cycle is:

Weeks 1-12          2g Sust
Weeks 1-10        .5g Deca or Tren (may leave these out - dunno if i'd see anything by using them?)
Weeks 1-4            50mg Oxy
Weeks 1-12        20iu Slin ED (weekends off)
Weeks 1-12        8iu HGH EOD Mon - Fri (weekends off)
Weeks 1-12        1mg Adex EOD

What do you reckon?

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 04 November 2009 00:10

looks good mate, definately put the deca in at 500mg per week. save the tren for pre comp.

id personally use the growth pwo, but it works pretty much however its run or so it seems!

if your off now, and not losing too much size, then i would leave the slin untill you start bulking again when you also have the aas there. if your having time off clean to rest the body, then IMO it should be off everything for maximum health benefit

youll do really well off that mate. Im looking forward to seeing you in comp shape, i think you will look very good indeed.

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Papa Lazarou Total Posts : 27806 Reward points : 5612 Joined: 16/02/2006 Location: Gaspari Nutrition UK Rep	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 04 November 2009 00:21 Cheers matey - looking to speak to James about doing my bulking and cutting diets for me so I may be in a better shape than ever! Or not! LOL Gaspari Rep Sports Nutrition - Supplements with Free UK Delivery!

dazc Total Posts : 24808 Reward points : 7692 Joined: 02/04/2003 Location: United Kingdom	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 04 November 2009 17:38 na im sure you will mate, james does a great service, will be well worth it BODY TEMPLE GASPARI & SYNTRAX rep. My journal Biomechanics coach

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 04 November 2009 21:32

Chest & Triceps

Flat BB Bench
100k x 10, 130k x 10, 140k x 10, 140k x 8, 140k x 6, 140k x 6

EzBar Skullcrusher
45k x 10, 45k x 10, 45k x 10, 45k x 7

BW Dips
x 12, x 7

Incline DB Flye
45lb x 10, 45lb x 10, 45lb x 10, 45lb x 10

Supersetted by...
Rope Pulldowns
80lb x 10, 70lb x 8, 70lb x 8, 70lb x 8

Shoulders being done on their own tm/Saturday.

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 05 November 2009 08:56

Papa Lazarou

It is weird and a little depressing but with low test and as I recover I simply don't have the energy to power thro 5 workouts in 7 days without feeling utterly burnt out.

3 in 7 is much more do-able and gives me time to recover and the strength to stay high - certainly incline smith benching 120k + 20kg bar weight (I call it that as its meant to float but when it has weight on it sticks!) when off cycle i'm enjoying greatly.

Just received 5 x 300iu's of long acting slin. Not sure whether to kick them off in my recovery period or just save it all for my bulk in Jan?

Jans planned cycle is:

Weeks 1-12          2g Sust
Weeks 1-10        .5g Deca or Tren (may leave these out - dunno if i'd see anything by using them?)
Weeks 1-4            50mg Oxy
Weeks 1-12        20iu Slin ED (weekends off)
Weeks 1-12        8iu HGH EOD Mon - Fri (weekends off)
Weeks 1-12        1mg Adex EOD

What do you reckon?

Cycle looks good mate.
Have you ran Test as high as 2g before though??
With the slow acting slin you can run it everyday with no problems.
I'm finished up lantus this week and will have ran it everyday for 5wks.

Papa Lazarou Total Posts : 27806 Reward points : 5612 Joined: 16/02/2006 Location: Gaspari Nutrition UK Rep	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 05 November 2009 09:15 Ran 1.5g as the highest before mate with 500mg deca. Not a huge difference in amounts really but I want to make the most of the meds being used. I like slin so can't wait to use. Would you recommend building up to 20iu per day? Gaspari Rep Sports Nutrition - Supplements with Free UK Delivery!

jnr2006 Total Posts : 3556 Reward points : 4806 Joined: 26/04/2006 Location: The Emerald Isle	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 05 November 2009 10:26 Ok so mate. I'll be running soemthing similar next year but still unsure of how high I'll run the Test.Highest I've ran previously was 1.2g EW. I started the lantus at 10iu 1st thing in the morning and built up to 20iu over a week or so.

Papa Lazarou Total Posts : 27806 Reward points : 5612 Joined: 16/02/2006 Location: Gaspari Nutrition UK Rep	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 05 November 2009 10:39 What carbs do you use? Gaspari Rep Sports Nutrition - Supplements with Free UK Delivery!

jnr2006 Total Posts : 3556 Reward points : 4806 Joined: 26/04/2006 Location: The Emerald Isle	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 05 November 2009 11:33 I just made sure to have carbs every 2-3 hours during the day and had my last carbs right before bed. A mixture really between, WMS, wholegrain bread, rice and porridge.

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 07 November 2009 13:11

Legs

Leg Press
260k x 20, 340k x 20, 360k x 20, 360k x 12, 360x 11, 360k x 11, 360k x 10, 360k x 9

Hack Squat
180k x 12, 200k x 12, 200k x 10

Seated Ham Curl
285lb x 12, 285lb x 12, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 9

Leg Extension
225lb x 12, 225lb x 12, 225lb x 9, 225lb x 9

Calf Raises
140lb x 12, 140lb x 12,

20 seconds between sets, 2 mins between exercises - in an out in about 40-45 mins. Feel sick as a dog LOL

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 09 November 2009 20:43

Shoulders

Arnie Shoulder Press
17.5k x 12, 17.5k x 12, 17.5k x 12, 17.5k x 12

Seated Front Raises (each arm)
30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10

Seated OH Press
70lb x 12, 80lb x 8, 75lb x 10, 75lb x 3

Bent Over DB Raise (each arm)
30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10, 30lb x 10

Cable Lat Raise (each arm)
15k x 10, 20k x 10, 20k x 10, 20k x 10

DB Shrugs (each arm)
90lb x 10, 90lb x 10, 90lb x 10, 90lb x 9

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dazc Total Posts : 24808 Reward points : 7692 Joined: 02/04/2003 Location: United Kingdom	Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 09 November 2009 21:00 are you still having shoulder problems mate? BODY TEMPLE GASPARI & SYNTRAX rep. My journal Biomechanics coach

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 09 November 2009 21:12

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No mate, just until now stayed away from DB based OH work. Just started back on them. Lowish weights until shoulders are back and stronger and I develop the power back in them

that makes sense mate, thought there must be a reason, as im sure you used to train them alot heavier than that!

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 11 November 2009 21:04

Back & Biceps

Machine Row
285lb x 10, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 10, 285lb x 10

DB Row
55k x 12, 70k x 10, 70k x 7, 70k x 7

SLDL
60k x 20, 60k x 20, 60k x 20, 80k x 20, 80k x 20, 80k x 20, 100k x 20, 100k x 20, 100k x 20,

BB Curl
85lb x 10, 85lb x 10, 85lb x 10, 85lb x 10

Wide Grip Lat Pull Down
220lb x 10, 220lb x 8, 220lb x 10, 220lb x 10

Supersetted by...
Concentration Curl
30lb x 10, 35lb x 10, 40lb x 10, 40lb x 10, 40lb x 10

Machine Curl
170lb x 10, 170lb x 10, 170lb x 10

Doing SLDL to strengthen up back before proper DLing. Gonna be a while yet. Still a little pain there unfortunatley.

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 12 November 2009 21:51

Chest & Triceps

BB Bench
100k x 12, 120k x 10 - Warm up
145k x 4, 145k x 4, 145k x 4, 145k x 4 - plenty left in the tank. Using wrist wraps to keep it on the chest and tri's and not feel pain in the wrists.

BB Skull Crusher
100lb x 12, 100lb x 10, 100lb x 10, 100lb x 9

Incline DB Bench (each arm)
100lb x 15, 100lb x 13, 100lb x 12, 100lb x 10

EzBar Reverse Grip Pulldown
80lb x 10, 80lb x 10, 80lb x 10, 80lb x 10 - very strict form - ow!

Incline DB Flye
45lb x 8, 45lb x 8, 45lb x 8, 45lb x 8 - done slowly - 3 second pause at top and bottom of movement

I'm sure I did something else but i'm f/_/cked if I remember!

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Re: RE: Matt's Dismorphic Diary - 13 November 2009 21:10

Legs

Squats
100k x 20, 120k x 12, 120k x 9

Leg Press
360k x 12, 360k x 12, 360k x 12, 360k x 12 - 20 second rest between sets

Ham Curls
285lb x 12, 285lb x 12, 285lb x 12, 285lb x 12

Supersetted by...
Leg Extensions
225lb x 12, 225lb x 12, 225lb x 12, 225lb x 12

Felt really sickly this evening for some reason so couldnt push to hard or risk throwing up. Still pushed on - esp with the 20 rep squats

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