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N31LOC
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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 03 July 2003 15:33
This is a blinding topic and a really good idea cheers Zack. Mils quicker than searching!

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 27 July 2003 18:24
from reading some of the routines above i have realised how far i have been going wrong for the past 4 years of training. if my goal is to increase both size and strength would i be better with tony starks 4 day split or the HIT system. and how does reg parks 5x5 fit in with it all? im confused!!

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 09 August 2003 07:08
hmm...a lot of this routines are dead i think...or that I don't knwo hwo to find them

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 13 August 2003 21:32
Good work Zack. One of the more useful threads I seem to have found on muscletalk.

Cheers!
The Weakling

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 15 September 2003 06:24
well done zack

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 30 October 2003 19:39
this is an amazing post. there is so much information in it. i wish i would have found this board quicker than i did.

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 21 December 2003 07:02
hey zach i didnt know where else to post this becasue it wouldnt let me pot a reply in the other site but its about theat bodybuilding program you posted the tate presses i saw a pick of a guy doing them on both flat and incline bench whats the difference ? whats better? which one should i do ? also whats the diff between JM presses and close grip

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 09 January 2004 19:20
any reason why half the links link to the default 'all forums' page rather than the specific rountines??

ozzy and scruffy's, big al's (both) etc.

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 09 January 2004 20:10
I think the links to some are now out of date due to things being updated / going into archives etc. Unfortunately Zack seems not to post anymore and so can't update them.

You can still search for them though.

AL

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 09 January 2004 20:25
chz al

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 09 January 2004 20:44
Is there a particular one you want to find but can't?

AL

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 09 January 2004 23:30
Yeah, a "Short Term Power and Strength Routine" by some fruity sounding bloke called Big-AL, can't say I've ever heard of him [:P]

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 10 January 2004 08:35
Lol, i can't find that one either, i tried searching "routine" in bodybuilding routines forum, subject only, archived for me as poster. It only came up with a couple, neither of which are the one you want. Sorry!

AL

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 28 March 2004 20:32
Why cant i access any of the tony starks routines ???
cheers
si

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 29 March 2004 15:02
I can see three routines by Tony there - two of which I cannot access. FireFighter - you should be able to access the first one listed.....?

As for the others - maybe they've been achived or something...?? Maybe a mod could shed some light?

If I come accross a particuarly useful thread i'll keep a link to it and sometimes the saved link directs me to MT's home page (which is what happens with Tony's routines).


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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 05 April 2004 16:29
Hi, the link to the Getting Ripped revised is not working.

Any ideas?

Thanks

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 05 April 2004 19:47
sphere apparently most of them were lost when MT changed servers

maybe if someone has saved them they could repost them

Si

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 19 April 2004 02:21
What about HST?

HST, aimed at bodybuilders and not at powerlifters, but interestingly enough , if you look at for example Smolovs squat routine he comes up with 4 times a week squating hard, obviously he uses HST like volume management as not to overload his CNS, also 5*5 routines can be incorporated in the HST framework.

For those unfamiliar with the basic HST concept:
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html

Since HST uses only a low volume per musclegroup/workout and an average volume during a whole week , I feel one has room apply some methods to make the few sets we devote to a musclegroup, that we do them more intens

First of all, you take the basic full body 1 day on 1 day off routine from their site:

http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_II.html

Now, let's tweak that a bit:

Instead of one workout, we gonna do two workouts a day, in the morning the rawest power exercises, like squat, benchpress and in the evening still compounds but more like leg press and dumbell press.

For the icing on the cake we throw in an isolation burnout set and we carefully apply some dropsets, supersets, compound supersets (ouch!) and negatives:

Here some samples for 2 musclegroups

SAMPLE 1: CHEST

WORKOUT 1 – MORNING – DOUBLE DROPS
1 * 6 barbell press
1 * 6 barbell press double drop
1 * 8 dumbell flye double drop

WORKOUT 1 - EVENING - SUPERSETS
1 * 6 dumbell press superset 1 * 8 db flye
1 * 6 dumbell press superset 1 * 8 db flye
1 * 8 dumbell flye double drop

WORKOUT 2 – MORNING - SUPERSETS
1 * 6 barbell press superset 1 * 8 dumbell flye
1 * 6 barbell press superset 1 * 8 dumbell flye
1 * 8 dumbell flyes double drop

WORKOUT 2 - EVENING – DOUBLE DROPS
1 * 6 dumbell press
1 * 6 dumbell press double drop
1 * 8 dumbell flye double drop


WORKOUT 3 – MORNING - NEGATIVES
1 * 6 barbell press negatives
1 * 6 barbell press negatives
1 * 8 db flye double drop

WORKOUT 3 - EVENING – SUPERSETS
1 * 6 dumbell press superset 1 * 8 dumbell flye
1 * 6 dumbell press superset 1 * 8 dumbell flye
1 * 8 dumbell flye double drop


WORKOUT 4 – MORNING - COMPOUND SUPERSETS (OUCH!)
1 * 6 barbell press superset 1 * 8 dumbell press
1 * 6 barbell press superset 1 * 8 dumbell press
1 * 8 dumbell flye double drop

WORKOUT 4 - EVENING – SUPERSETS
1 * 6 dumbell press superset 1 * 8 dumbell flye
1 * 6 dumbell press superset 1 * 8 dumbell flye
1 * 8 dumbell flye double drop

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SAMPLE 2: QUADS

WORKOUT 1 – MORNING – DOUBLE DROPS
1 * 6 squat
1 * 6 squat double drop
1 * 8 sissy squat or leg extension double drop

WORKOUT 1 - EVENING - SUPERSETS
1 * 6 legpress or hacksquat, superset 1 * 8 sissysquat or leg ext.
1 * 6 legpress or hacksquat, superset 1 * 8 sissysquat or leg ext.
1 * 8 sissysquat or leg extension double drop

WORKOUT 2 – MORNING - SUPERSETS
1 * 6 squat 1, superset 1 * 8 sissysquat/legext.
1 * 6 squat 1, superset 1 * 8 sissysquat/legext.
1 * 8 sissysquat/legext double drop

WORKOUT 2 - EVENING – DOUBLE DROPS
1 * 6 legpress/hacksquat
1 * 6 legpress/hacksquat double drop
1 * 8 sissysquat/legext. double drop


WORKOUT 3 – MORNING - NEGATIVES
1 * 6 squat negatives
1 * 6 squat press negatives
1 * 8 sissy squat/legext. double drop

WORKOUT 3 - EVENING – SUPERSETS
1 * 6 legpress/hacksquat, superset 1 * 8 sissy squat/legext.
1 * 6 legpress/hacksquat, superset 1 * 8 sissy squat/legext.
1 * 8 sissy squat/legext double drop


WORKOUT 4 – MORNING - COMPOUND SUPERSETS (OUCH!)
1 * 6 squat, superset 1 * 8 legpress/hacksquat
1 * 6 squat, superset 1 * 8 legpress/hacksquat
1 * 8 sissy squat/leg ext. double drop

WORKOUT 4 - EVENING – SUPERSETS
1 * 6 legpress/hacksquat,superset 1 * 8 sissy squat/legext.
1 * 6 legpress/hacksquat,superset 1 * 8 sissy squat/legext.
1 * 8 sissy squat/legext. double drop

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The same principle of starting with the largest compound exercise in the morning and do the second largest compound in the evening applies
to the other muscles as well, example:

MORNING

Hamstrings
- Main compound exercise: STLD
- assistence iso exercise for supersets: leg curl

Lower back
- Main compound exercise: Deadlift
- assistence iso exercise for supersets: reverse hypers

Front delts
- Main compound exercise: Millitary press
- assistence iso exercise for supersets: fron barbell raise


EVENING

Hamstrings
- Secondary compound exercise: Glute Ham raise
- assistence iso exercise for supersets: leg curl

Lower back
- Secondary compound exercise: Goodmorning
- assistence iso exercise for supersets: reverse hypers

Front delts
- Secondary compound exercise: dumbell press
- assistence iso exercise for supersets: front barbell raise

etc.

While HST follows cycles of 8 weeks, working from 15 down to 5 reps in miniblocks of 2 weeks, you can use the above mentioned routine year round, because we use microsblocks of 4 workouts to work our way from demanding dropsets even more demanding negatives and compound supersets in the third and fourth workout after wich you start over again. this will make sure you hit considerable failure in low and high repranges.


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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 27 April 2004 12:43
quote:
Originally posted by Zack

Recently there have been several posts asking for routines. In light of this, and the fact that many people dont know how to use the search, I have decided to make this thread with links to routines that have been posted. I will keep it updated.
[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21305']Big-AL's Mass Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30938']Beginner's Bulking[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36758']Zack's "If I was a Bodybuilder" Routine (NEW!)[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21181']Two Routines & Long Term Training Cycle (by Tony Starks)[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10809']Tony Stark's Generic Four-day Split[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21869']TonyStarks' Four-day Split for Beginners[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39570']Powerlifter's Mass Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-hit-training.asp']HIT Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34181']Getting Ripped revised[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26141']Ozzy and Scruffy's Strength Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23372']Big-AL's Short Term Power and Strength Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=39226
']Powerlifter's Strength Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=19484']Paul Kelso's Strength Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29511']Big-AL's Strength Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24699']My Old Routine (functional strength, good for sports)[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28848']Basic Westside Info (Powerlifting)[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27700']FutureCoach's Olympic Lifting Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=34007']A Strongman Routine[/url]

[url='http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=57310'] frankies mass building routine[/url]
Enjoy. [^]
Please note that I can't post everyone's routine on this thread. These are just examples of several types of routines that have worked for many people.



SORRY ZACK,
NONE OF THESE LINKS ARE WORKING.


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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 19 May 2004 17:06
I am very interested in looking for a great cutting routine but the one in the link goes to the default page. If anyone has this routine or a similar cutting routine please post it up. Thanx

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 20 May 2004 15:35
Hey there,

I tried hitting the link on the first post that said "Functional strength, good for sports" or something like that. It only took me to the forums page. Can anyone get that link for me?
Thanks

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 20 May 2004 16:07
bump most of them are doing it

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 23 May 2004 04:17
Bump....can a Mod figure out why the links are just bringing us to the front page?

Nick~

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 25 May 2004 16:53
Yeah, cant see the linksmae, just the front pages!

tbip2001

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 25 May 2004 16:58

No point bumping - this is a sticky! The links are bringing up the frontpage as the links no longer exist. They were probably deleted as a result of housekeeping, or, they were lost when MT migrated over to new servers.

I thought Tony Starks was trying to retrieve some of these lost threads a while ago.. - I know he got some back, dont know how many, of if he has updated the links which he did retrieve.


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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 13 August 2004 14:16
Nice one Zack excellent post mate

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 06 September 2004 15:36
Do the routine topics still exist?
The Right will take you round the block, but the Jab will take you round the world.

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 06 September 2004 20:34
The links are not working?

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 23 September 2004 10:15
the links don't work for some of them because the original thread had to be deleted

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 19 October 2004 15:43
Is Big Al's routine ok for a beginner? would it work enuff muscle groups and would i get quite big etc?

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 04 November 2004 13:51
hey zack thanks a million for the information
thanks bro

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 19 January 2005 01:28
Hey Frankie, I'm gonna give this routine a go very soon, a few quick questions f you would be so kind,

5 X 5 all work sets same weight from what I can gague, no light weight warm up?
Power cleans, r these regular deadlift/slight jerk into upright row/stop at the shoulders?
Again from what I can rad on the posts its 1 exercise of the 3 suggested in each workout? eg. Power cleans, dumbell rows, barbell curls? Then say incline bench, dunbell shoulder press, and dips?

Cheers mucker.

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 18 March 2005 23:07
i like the ripped one

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 13 June 2005 21:54
"and still holds the all time record for heaviest weight lifted by a human, of 6270lbs in the backlift (check in the Guinness Book of records if you don't believe me)."

How much!!! 448 stone!, what a monster

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 17 July 2005 13:16
Great idea, great post Zack

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 14 August 2005 10:49
I think you'd find Zack posted this early 2002

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 07 September 2005 16:29
Hi Guys

I'm thinking of moving over to the HIT routine and was just wondering how many guys follow that sort of routine and the successes or failures that they've experienced with that routine.

Thanks in advance
TR.

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 08 February 2006 02:31
which routine would be best for general as well if your busy

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 26 February 2006 21:24
ive been training for about 2 or 3 years and currently weigh 104kg with 15% bodyfat .at the moment i am training at 6am and am really trying to gain lean mass(yeah like every one else).my diet is fine 250g of protien,and abuot 450g of carbs,over six or seven clean meals can train mon,tues,thurs,fris...but would prefer to train 3 times if pos....mainly because its so early......can anyone give me some tips for a mass workout....thanks.

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RE: Need a routine? Read this. - 25 March 2006 21:55
i train with my mate in the gym (he has 5 yrs weight training experience) with great physique!

i however only 6 months training under my belt - anyway i tagged with him to learn the ropes properly - i have learnt a great deal but the workout is overtraining me i think , yes it works for him cos he can get faster muscle recovery but not for me.

we train

mon - chest
tues - legs
wed - back
thurs - bi's / tri's
fri - shoulders
weekend - rest !

each day we do about 7 excercises on that muscle group - 4 sets each

defo overtraining for me?

anyway i was thinking of doing this

mon - chest / tris
tues - CV !
wed - back / bi's
thurs - rest
fri - shoulders / legs
sat - CV !

and doing 4 main excercises per muscle group so my workout lasts about an hour max ! by doing chest and tris together i will exhaust my tris fully and same with back and bi's..

what do you think? any thoughts or advice?
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