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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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30 November 2005 18:33
Great answer party boy, thanks!! Was a little unsusre about the BF % thing and if 1% fat actually ment 1% of my total weight, cos muscle and fat weigh different etc ... lol just confusin myself!! When i get determined i can practically starve myslef so if i get a good diet plan i shouldn't have any probs!! Think i will go with the T3 along side my planned cycle as its not much money compared to the rest and could make the extra difference!! Thanks for help, off to plan and save up
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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16 December 2005 10:19
Hi, I am considering using T3 for cutting but have never used it before. I want to use low dosages for a short cutting phase so as to minimise side effects. Here is my personal profile: Age: 19 Weight: 70kg / 154lbs Bodyfat: 13% Using Wrongun's suggested 6 week dosage, i have designed my own plan, taking into consideration my situation and goals: Days 1,2: 25mcgs Days 3,4: 40mcgs Days 5-16: 50mcgs Days 17-19: 40mcgs Days 20-22: 25mcgs Days 20-28 : 20mcgs Days 29-33 : 15 mcgs Days 34-42 : 10 mcgs Please can anyone comment on this plan with regard to the effectiveness and possibility of long-term side effects. Thanks guys!!
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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16 December 2005 10:26
Welcome Alex. 19 is young - I would have though with a teenagers metabolism you wouldn't need to consider thyroid meds. What is your training/supplementation history? Is your diet nailed - what does it look like? Does cardio figure in your regime? T3 would normally require anabolic support to offset muscle loss - what is your steroid use history? tbh, the cycle as you've laid out will yield little. Dosages will not be high enough to yield any noticeable changes.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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17 December 2005 10:39
Ive been training for nearlly 2 years and have supplemented with products such as creatine, whey protein, multivitimins ect. I recently completed an 8 week cycle of 1-AD but the results were not as good as I expected so I am considering a cycle of dianabol. However, I want to get more cut before using dianabol. My current cutting phase involves 45 minutes of low intensity cardio each day & weights every other day. If I follow Wrongun's 6-week plan exactly (without going over 100mcgs per day) - how likely is it that long-term thyroid damage will occur? Thanks!
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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17 December 2005 10:59
I've not come across anyone to date who has thryroid issues after supplementing with thyroid meds. However, there is the possibility of the occurance, even if slight. Using T3 as per wronguns sticky will leave you wide open to probably substancial muscle catabolism.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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17 December 2005 15:49
So, do u recommend that I take T3 with dianabol, for example? And if so, would this count as a cutting or bulking phase? Thanks
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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17 December 2005 18:46
You're taking taking T3 to increase metabolic rate and thus increase calorie expenditure in an attempt to assist fat loss. If you're going to eat as though you are bulking, then you're going against what you're hoping to achieve. Diet and cardio need to be nailed in order to lose fat - irrespective of whether meds such as T3 are used. Dianabol would make meaningful cardio nigh on impossible therefore makes it a very poor choice whilst trying to cut.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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18 December 2005 12:08
Ok, thanks a lot partyboy! Think im gonna do some more research & have a look at clen. Cheers mate
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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20 December 2005 03:42
If I wanna do a 8 week cycle of Cytomel and stack with a 2 week on / off cycle of Clenbuterol should I start them together or wait 2 weeks into the Cytomel before adding the Clenbuterol so they can finish together? Or add an extra 9 and 10 week for just clenbuterol? I read through and I think someone already asked the same question but I didnt really understand And how much weight do you think someone could lose on a 8 week cycle of Cytomel and Clenbuterol if they ate less than 200 calories a day and did cardio? Thanks.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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04 January 2006 03:10
I have slacked off on my lifting and have gained a good amount of fat and weight. Not happy with what I look like. I have a Deca, Test cycle waiting to be used but am afraid I am too flabby to enjoy the results of that 10 week cycle. Would it be smart to run a clen, T3, winny cycle for 6-8 weeks to lose the extra weight then after 4 weeks off to do the test and deca cycle.....thanks for your help guys.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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04 January 2006 20:30
bump for help, thanks guys
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05 January 2006 05:14
thanks pal
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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05 January 2006 15:55
hi there never used T3 before as i have read you need anabolic support to stop muscle loss, if i was to run 50mg winni and 40mg tbol for six week and keep protein at 250 grams and calouries at 2500 would it be possible to lose some fat and add some lean gains at the same time. currently 12% bf 14.4 stone
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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15 January 2006 00:11
I've yet to hear of anyone suffering thyroid problems from T3 use and recall The Doctor saying similar a while back. Appreciate that most prefer to pyramid their dosages with a long taper to finish but I'm considering running it at a straight dosage of 100mcg per day for 4 weeks or so unless anyone can give me a reason to think differently.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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05 February 2006 19:16
Tony - I havent either I would guess this is because T3 is produced by the conversion of T4 - that way if you replace T3 then the shut down will be the amount of t4 that was being converted - which of course is a proportion and not all of the t4. I know t4 causes shut down - as my mother has been on t4 replacement and her thyroid function is now non existant - in fact there are problems because after 20 years she needs supraphysiological doses - suggesting a resistance to the endogenous product on top of shutdown. I have seen t3 used for 20 weeks or more and things be fine and dandy after that using wronguns off taper procedure - verified by blood work and user experiences of it!!
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20 February 2006 23:40
is t3 legaly obtainable or is it a prescription only med?
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20 February 2006 23:50
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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22 February 2006 17:01
What type of PH could I use as anabolic support or does it have to be AAS.
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23 February 2006 12:03
I am curious to know in taking a t3 and clen 6 week cycle wioth proper diet and cardio. How much weight can be expected to lose? I am asking this becuase I read that t3 is between clen adn dnp now with dnp if I remember correctly you can lose around 5-10 within 2 weeks. So in a t3 and clen cycle how much on average can be shed? Thanks Rey Rey
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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10 March 2006 19:59
i can get hold of T3 and there are 60 50mg tabs in a box, excuse me for being thick how many would i need for the 6 week course....never was good at maths
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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07 April 2006 20:14
I've read all of the excellent posts on here about T3 but I had a question so if the experienced users of this could help me out, I would appreciate it. Will the dosages recommended depend on the bodyweight, bodyfat, body size of the individual. For example: Will a 250lb guy @15% bodyfat take the same dosage of T3 as a 175lb guy @15% bodyfat. All other factors being equal I plan on using a Tbol/T3 stack for 8 wks and I'm trying to figure out the dosages. I plan on using the taper down method as well. I was planning on doing 50mg of Tbol ed for 7 wks And using the T3 for 7or 8 wks. I was told that a peak of 100mg a day of T3 would be pointless of someone my size. I'm 5'8 175lbs 15% bodyfat. 26 years old. My diet is clean, EFA's are there, and currently taking in 125-150g of protein. Once I start the T3 I plan on upping that to 175-200. I was thinking of tapering the T3 like this: 12.5.......25...........50.........25........12.5 Any help or advice is greatly appreciated..........Thanks
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12 April 2006 22:11
Due to Tren use lowering thyroid levels, I was considering low dose T3 at 25mcgs pd alongside a 10 week tren cycle. I am assuming that a low dose for a prolonged period is fine to do without any taper. Is this correct?
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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25 April 2006 23:13
so saying i did t3 for the 6 weeks what would be the best roid eg, winny,sust to take to avoid losing to much muscle?
Blue_Lagoon3000 Ive been entered a few times by delivery men, i didn't hold it against them.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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26 April 2006 09:29
I would simply use 500mg of a long estered test dave. Depending on your size and relative aas experience I shouldn't imagine any more than 750mg pw would be necessary. Cheap and effective.
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26 April 2006 19:28
cheers partyboy so which one would you recommend is the best one with t3?
Blue_Lagoon3000 Ive been entered a few times by delivery men, i didn't hold it against them.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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05 May 2006 23:01
6 Week T3 Days 1,2: 50mcgs Days 3,4: 75mcgs Days 5-11: 100 - 125mcgs Days 11-13 : 125mcgs Days 14-16 : 100mcgs Days 17-19: 75mcgs Days 20-22: 50mcgs Days 23-28 : 37.5mcgs Days 29-33 : 25 mcgs Days 34-42 : 12.5 mcgs I worked out that the 6 week t3 course uses 45.5 tabs(using 125mcg as the max dose). If you get 60 tabs in a box what is the best place to add the spare 14 tabs? Maybe just add them right in the middle at 125mcgs? So that would extend the course by 5 days. Does that sound ok? EDIT: Question answered in THIS THREAD
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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10 May 2006 16:29
Great post loadsa good info, but was just wondering if you get fat loss during the slow taper down or only at the max dose? i suppose what im really asking is: is the slow taper dosages still a lot higher than normal T3 produced by the Thyroid and will a user still experience increased fat burning. assuming diet etc is nailed?
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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10 May 2006 16:40
ORIGINAL: davedarave01uk cheers partyboy so which one would you recommend is the best one with t3? I'd go with enan personally. Purely as I'm partial to the Iranians
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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10 May 2006 16:41
Yes mutz, you will still be experiencing beneficial effects
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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10 May 2006 17:52
Thanks mate!
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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15 May 2006 13:58
cheers my box says 75ug on them, so i didnt understand the mcgs bit
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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15 May 2006 14:33
Not sure then mate as to what ug means. If it means mcg then just divide the pill numbers by 1.5
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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15 May 2006 16:54
µg = mcg Your tabs appear to be 75mcg. This is the reason I don't like talking in terms of number of tabs as there are so many differing strengths. Be sure to know exactly what you have T3 or T4.
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15 May 2006 22:17
cheers guys.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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16 May 2006 07:13
With a T3 and Clen cycle....I am tryin go to determine the best test to take. I do not want to inject EOD, every 3 days or 2x per week is the most I think I can do....Alot of things I read say Test Enantate and Test Cyp are about the same, that Cyp might be alittle better. And not much about Sus on a T3 cycle... Is there a difference in taking Sus 250/mg every 3 days or Cyp 200mg every 3 days? Am I better off taking the Sus because it is 50mg more per shot? Thanks guys.
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16 May 2006 09:35
Think of Enan/cyp/sus as essentially the same. Cyp is no better particularly than enan, and although sus is 50mg more than cyp per shot you can attain a similar dosage level by shooting the cyp slightly more often. Just base your decision on availability and price.
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16 May 2006 16:40
Thanks Partyboy, as always a big help. When you say more shots to get a similar dosage level, can you give me an example with Cyp and Sus because that is the 2 I am deciding between, price is cheap for both of them. Thank you
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16 May 2006 17:00
If you wanted to run 500mg per week of sus it would be one amp Monday and another thursday or friday. To get a similar dosage of cyp per week will require 250mg, twice per week. As you know cyp is normally 200mg per ml, so you will need 1 and ¼ ml of oil per shot. If you aren't using a multi shot vial, obtaining this is impossible as you would be wasting the other ¾ of a second amp. If you simply shot 1 amp twice per week (mon/thurs) of cyp this would only give you 400mg pw. To get closer to 500mg pw, you can shoot 1 amp every 3rd day which will effectively give you 466mg per week. Obviously, shooting every 3rd day means your shooting days change from one week to the next so you have to have more awareness to know when your next shot is due.
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RE: 8 & 6 Week T3 Dosages
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16 May 2006 21:14
One last question.....I can get 10ml bottles of the Cyp, if I run at as we say here for ten weeks would be 24 shots. and would still have a small amount left. Would this be an ok cycle T3 and Clen weeks 1-6 test Cyp 200mg every 3 days weeks 1-12 Winny oral 50mg ed weeks 7-12 PCT at end of cycle Thanks for your input Partyboy
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16 May 2006 21:18
I would delay onset of winny by 2 weeks and run right upto day before pct. pct will start 2 weeks after last cyp shot
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