Clenbuterol

I was taking taurine lol i no now i need potasium too, i suggest you invest in some too lol the cramps are unbearable on clen

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Potassium is pennies at Holland and Barratt

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/product_detail.asp?pid=52

Every now and then they do an offer on potassium for £1.99 a bottle, so I buy the stuff by the trey and stock up :)

Just a shame they don't do like 500mg tablets coz you have to pour them down like no mans business :)

200mg - 400mg pottasium a day on clen?

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I go more 800-1000mg, about half hour before bed.

Some people have suggested 1-2g but sod jamming 20 tabs down my throat, 10 is bad enough :P

You end up doing like 30 tablets a day as it is :P

Not sure if potasium before bed would do, i mind i took 40 in the morning then 40 at about 3pm, then i worked out at like 7pm and got awful cramps, i think ill go with 500mg in the morning and 500mg in the evening.

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I tried splitting them up, taking a few hundred mg throughout the day, tried before bed, first thing in morning, etc for me, I found Taurine thru the day, from waking to sleep, splitting my clen dose thru the day and potassium before bed. Suck it and see :) like the clen dose, some people say all at once, some say split it, its down to the person :)

I also used 75mg Diphenhydramine every other day, which i'm not 100% helps or if its psychological but it sure as hell helps me get a good nights sleep.

I also used diclofenac in the past but concluded the really nasty guts was worse than the cramps :P

When taking clenbuterol, what times should you take the tablets, i have 20mcg tabs, should i take like 5 at once for a 100mcg dose or spread it out through the day?

Thanks

Hey Cambo,
I have tried it both all in 1 go, and spread out, I personally break my dose up.

I try to stick to the same times as well, due to the half life.

I *try* to stick to 9am-1pm-5pm, I can't always stick to it but I try :)

As i taper up, I spread the dose out, so like when on 5, I do 2 at 9, 2 at 1, and 1 at 5.

I think you just have to try what matches you, some of my mates down the gym, take that many things that they say they do them all at once.

Thanks Artemis thats a real help, i was so confused

I plan to start an 8 week cut on monday im aware that fat loss gets harder as you go on week by week cant remember exactly but fat loss stalled abit in week 5/6, so would this protocol be ok and effective?

Week 1 - nothing
Week 2 - nothing
Week 3 - Ephedrine
Week 4 - Ephedrine
Week 5 - Ephedrine
Week 6 - Clen
Week 7 - Clen
Week 8 - Clen

Thoughts please, thanks.

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FAO PartyBoy

Hi PB, great post and wonderful info...just a quick one.  Can you recommend any OTC alternative to Ketitofen?  I assume that I can go as long as necessary with clen whilst supping with Ket but need help with dosing.  Is it required to still taper up and then what would you recommend being the max dose that I could take consistently for an 8 week period.  In previous use I have been upto 120mcg without use of Ket.  Any help much appreciated.  Sorry would just like to add also, i find tremors quite bad whilst doing clen cycles can you recommend taking my whole dose before i sleep along with Ket?  Would it still be ok to take my pott/taur supps the following morning??

Icemansoldier


I plan to start an 8 week cut on monday im aware that fat loss gets harder as you go on week by week cant remember exactly but fat loss stalled abit in week 5/6, so would this protocol be ok and effective?

Week 1 - nothing
Week 2 - nothing
Week 3 - Ephedrine
Week 4 - Ephedrine
Week 5 - Ephedrine
Week 6 - Clen
Week 7 - Clen
Week 8 - Clen

Thoughts please, thanks.

Me, I would do 2 weeks eph then 2 weeks clen and then 2 weeks eph and so on.  After 2 wks of clen, i've had enough of the hand tremors and need a break LOL.

 
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Thanks red hot my plans have changed vastly since on week 3 of my cut atm, my plan looks like this :

Week 1 - a few eph tablets during the week
Week 2 - 2x30mg eph daily, introduced alcar 4g later in the week
Week 3 - 2x30mg eph daily, 4g alcar
Week 4 - 2x30mg eph daily, 4g alcar
Week 5 - 2x30mg eph daily, 4g alcar, clen
Week 6 - 2x30mg eph daily, clen

I can see 2 weeks of clen straight being torture, so might go with clen week 4 and 6. Only bought 100g alcar so thats why i wont run it in week 6.

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macca


PartyBoy, is Clen's effectiveness more apparent with a high (25) or midrange BF% (15)? Can I maintain my current calorific intake or is it more effective on a cutting cycle?

it depends on what your caloric intake is and what your maximum is? if your max is 3000 kcal and you eat 3100. then of course you can eat what your use to and loose weight due to clen. but why not get the max out of it? clen is a good drug which can make you loose some fat and its anti  katabolic so you can more easily keep muscles packed while throwing of the fat?
 
at  my first cycle og 500 Test From Diamond i gained about 10-12 KG and in my pct i took clenbuterol plus 2 weeks after and i had a solid satisfied look i remember.. :)

If I'm to use clen in my PCT what other drugs can I run with it? For example, I usually use either aromasin and Nolvadex or clomid and nolvadex for my PCT. Can I take clen with either of those two combinations safely? Also does clen have any negative feedback on my recover post cycle?

Volgin


If I'm to use clen in my PCT what other drugs can I run with it? For example, I usually use either aromasin and Nolvadex or clomid and nolvadex for my PCT. Can I take clen with either of those two combinations safely?

Yes, but non-prescribed drug use can never be described as "safe".

Also does clen have any negative feedback on my recover post cycle?

No

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hi there im thinking of taking clen but i work on the railways and we get drugged tests often but it is for your usual street drugs and not steriods but was wondering if clen would show up in it

I very much doubt it.

It is the same family of drug as legitimate asthma medications such as salbutemol.

Clen in itself is a legitimate asthma med, but just not in this country.

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can benadryl be used instead of ketotifen

I am about to start a clen cycle to aid with cutting but have 3 questions that need answering first.

When you suggest a 12 week cycle does that mean 24 weeks of 2 on 2 off or 12 weeks total, so only 6 on Clen?

I plan to run Clen into PCT and beyond to help keep gains from my current steroid cycle. Is it possible to run Clen alongside PCT meds?

If I was to run Clen after PCT to help keep gains, would I stay on constantly at 40mcg or still do 2 on 2 off?

Crasher

Nytol can be used for this mate.  The active ingredient is diphenhydramin.

lakie


can benadryl be used instead of ketotifen

So I have liquid clen.  My cousin is a nutritionist and has explained a little bit about it to me.  He is helping me with any questions I might have and I do trust him.  He thinks I worry too much though.  I have successfully lost 75 pounds before.  I got hurt and gained 50 back.  I could use this clen and it would help me burn fat.  I understand that part. Could there be an instance where I work out too much or too aggressively?  Or maybe not eat enough of the right foods?  I understand the Potassium and Taurine tabs help, but is it possible to follow my cousins diet plan, 5 small meals a day seperated every couple hours, in addition to the clen, Potassium and Taurine tabs and still overwork myself or my heart?  I was running on the eleptical for an hour every morning.  Also I am a drinker.  I drink lots of water throughout the day and 3 or 4 nights a week I drink a good amount of bourbon.  Will my drinking cause any disruption with the intended effects or alter the side effects? Right now I am 290 lbs, and you couldn't guess within 40 lbs of what I really weigh.  I would like to get back down to 245 and then eventually get to 225.  My main question is, is it possible to do too much cardio on this supplement?

Welcome

The key is to listen to your body. If you feel like you're overdoing things, then you probably are.

Lots of alcohol will hamper your training and fat loss goals. I'm not saying don't drink; a small to moderate amount is generally ok. You have to ask yourself how badly you want a decent outcome.

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Hey PB or anyone else that can help.... Isit alright to use clen with my GH? Bare in mind im not really going for big size gains on the GH.

Cheers

Yes

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thanks for the information on clenbuterol partyboy i am looking in using this producted a friend off mine as said to do day on day off and raise each tablet each time till you get used to it just wondering in that the best way to do it or what are the others ways

thanks

partyboy few questions for ya, im planning my cutting cycle for next year and was going to run test e and clen together,going to run test for 14 weeks and do clen 3 weeks on 2 weeks is this ok?
my cycle

14 weeks test e 2ml aweek

clen / week 1/day1 20mcg/day2 40mcg/ day3 60mcg/day4 80mcg/day5 100mcg days 6 and 7 off

week2/day1 40mcg/day2 60mcg/day3 80mcg/day4 100mcg/day5 120mcg days 6 and 7 off

week3/day1 60mcg/day2 100mcg/day3 120mcg/day4 140mcg/day5 120mcg

if i get sides il lower the dose by 20mcg .
i will be doing this 3 times in the 14weeks .
i read and been told good to cycle like this cause your body gets used to clen very quickle so will be more affective.what u think partyboy ??

                            

1 question from me.

im currently cutting, using Slim Xtreme - its great, constant energy all day, not hungry at all and its going well, now im thinking of  doing a 2 week clen on and off, whilst still taking slim extreme, is this a big nono due to the aparantl "ephadrine" in slim xtreme? or as its legal it should be ok? or would be just running 2 week clen on and 2 week slim xtreme whilst off the clen be better? Thanks in advance,

Age : 23
Height : 6 Foot 6
  Started : Cutting - 16.0 stone atm 
finished : 13.8 stone - cut enough!
training for muay thai fight in april 2010! 80-84kg

Legality has little to do with safety. Just consider alcohol and tobacco for proof of that!

I would not personally mix eph and clen

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can any 1 comment on my cycle?? would be a great help.

I wouldn't have off days personally. I'd be running every day for 2 weeks, then a 2 week break as per the article.

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Also... if you could suggest some good brands.. Tks!

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spiropent

im having some weird sides at the moment,

currently up to 3 x 40mg about 7 days in so far, tremours in the hands, thats not too bad
also getting mega bad DOMS... really bad lol,  but the worst for me has to be how hungry its making me.. i completely have no will power.... im starving, even after i just eat a huge meal, im starving.. hungry every second of the day and its making eat more and more... this cut is turning out to be a bulk..... lmao im taking taurine and BCAA's along with my normal glutamine tabs for my joints and omega sups also - water intake is high, diet is spot on apart from im eating like 9 meals now, every 2 hours because im so hungry.... this is chinese clen im using, anyone had any sort of same effect and any other ways of trying to cure the side effects?? also should i taper up to 160mg as im feeling like at 120? or stay at 120 for now and see how i go?

Thanks.

Age : 23
Height : 6 Foot 6
  Started : Cutting - 16.0 stone atm 
finished : 13.8 stone - cut enough!
training for muay thai fight in april 2010! 80-84kg

do you think if I take clen and muscle techs hydroxycut i WOULD cook myself from the inside out? maybe hydroxycut whilst my 2 weeks off clen? Partyboy I wana hear what u think brah

I ran clen a while ago building up from 20mcg up to 80mcg daily. It took me about 2 weeks to hit 80mcg and about my 3rd day on clen at 80mcg I started noticing I had shortness of breath. Is this common or could it be attributed to my lack of cardio at the time? If poor diet can play a role in it that could have been it to. I just don't want to try to increase my cardio if i'm taking something that's hindering my breathing.
Thoughts?

WOW

Well i just read all 32 pages of this thread and my mind changed a dozen times of wither or not to do theis cycle - but being a jock, i have bought the clen, so the party goes ahead !!

Plan is to finish current SD cycle next week, and do two more weeks of PCT with just creatine and still calorie surpluss.

Then change training to 4 days weights 5 sessions of cardio weekly and drop calorie slightly

Run Clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off with an ECA stack on the off weeks (still undecided on this as contradicting advise on using ECA with Clen (does not let receptors recover enough))

only other supps will be protien and Creatine (and tuarine/potassium)

sound like a plan ?

PartyBoy
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 this must be one of the longest running threads - nearly 6 years - have any of your opinions from the first post changed ???

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Partyboy, hi mate.

Have you herd of the dave palumbo way of using clen, he stays on and gradually ups the dosage weekly, and stays on for 6 weeks or so ?

have you herd of this method, as id like to try it rather than the 2 weeks on/off cycle if possible, but i cant seem to find much info about it.

 
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