Clenbuterol

ORIGINAL: ml30

PartyBoy, I have carefully read through your article and have to say it is very informative.
I have a genuine question for you, if you don't mind. I am thinking about going on a clen/ECA cycle 2 weeks on/off with the recommended dosage. The only thing I am wondering about is wether I will be able to keep my breast size or are they going to shrink and look funny at the end of the cycle? At the moment they are quite large 34FF. I have been training for 3 years and it has not made any difference in my cup size but obviously it made a huge difference in my body shape. I have never taken anything before except Ephedrine. Do I have anything to worry about or shall I just go for it?
(Please do not joke, it was a serious question. Thank you.)

well it would be hard to say without seeing any photos of how you look at the moment, if you email me some i'll be able to give you a good answer

when on the clen cycle do you start on the ketotifen, if they take a week to regenerate your scensors could u start on week two?

and if thats the case couldnt you cycle it? so week 1 take clen week 2 clen+ keto week 3 clen week 4 clen + keto ect?

ive been using clen for about two months.. two wks on on two weeks off.. i was told to stop using it now as i can damage my insides.. is this true??

'damage insides' is very vague tbh.

Has Clen the potential to cause side effects and injury? - Yes.

Limiting usage to short cycles (say 8-12 weeks in total) is therefore wise in view of what is possible. Besides, if desired results are not achieved during this sort of time period, imho clen was not necessary in the first place and should have been added later on during the cutting process.

 

i have lost about a stone and a few pounds.. ive gone down 2 a size eight, but i want to use clen for another two weeks just to get rid of the last bit of fat around me stomach.. but my friends have said that it could damage my liver..

I suspect your friends haven't much clue tbh about the possible side effects of clen. Clen is only very mildly liver toxic and I doubt that liver values would be altered at all. They're probably hurting their livers more by their drinking habits!

Another 2 weeks will be fine, and congrats on your fat loss so far.

 

Thank you Party Boy! i will use it for another two weeks!

i'm using spiropent but not sure what dosage to take can u help?

Dosages as per 1st page of this thread.

 

I've gone through the 11 pages on this post and there's still somethings I am not sure about. Some of these questions, might seem stupid, but I want to make sure I understand everything clearly.

First, I see dosages for clen/ECA cycles- but not sure how much ECA to take (one effedrin tab, one vivarin, one asprin, etc). Second, If doing the two week on two week off for 6-8 weeks, what would happen if I skipped ECA completely? Would it have an adverse effect on my fat loss or is this just to alleviate any 'coming down' side effects? Since clen raises your body temperature, do I need to be extra careful if exercising or working in extreme heat (lawn work or jogging etc)? The temps where I live are close to 100degrees Farenheit and it's common for me to be outdoors in this type of weather. Am I right to say that the highest dosage to take should be what your body can tolerate and not push yourself to another 20mcg just to reach the ideal 140mcg?
Thanks for a great forum!

I just found an answer to my ECA dosage question on another forum:

Ephedrine (20-30mgs depending on the mood of your source)
Caffeine (200mg because this is the amount companies sell it)
Aspirin (any amount- usually 300mg but imo a baby asp is better)

the theoretical ratio is E:C:A=1:10:4

But would still appreciate info on the other questions!
thx

ORIGINAL: TxSting

First, I see dosages for clen/ECA cycles- but not sure how much ECA to take (one effedrin tab, one vivarin, one asprin, etc).

That depends on the mg content of each tab, which you will need to find out yourself. For example, ou may have 200mg caffeine tabs or you may have 50mg caffeine tabs therefore the number of tabs for a 200mg "dose" will be different.

Second, If doing the two week on two week off for 6-8 weeks, what would happen if I skipped ECA completely? Would it have an adverse effect on my fat loss or is this just to alleviate any 'coming down' side effects?

Yes, overall effect would be lower.

Since clen raises your body temperature, do I need to be extra careful if exercising or working in extreme heat (lawn work or jogging etc)? The temps where I live are close to 100degrees Farenheit and it's common for me to be outdoors in this type of weather.

You should minitor yourself regularly to avoid issues such as overheating to extremes. You also need to ensure you are constantly well hydrated.

Am I right to say that the highest dosage to take should be what your body can tolerate and not push yourself to another 20mcg just to reach the ideal 140mcg?

Yes, everyone has differing tolerances - increase only upto an amount where sides aren't
creating problems for you.

 

can one use Clen as a training booster similarily to Eph ? With or without Caffeine ?

Won't provide anywhere near the same 'kick'. Save clen for serious cutting only imho.

 

Just got me a 200 tabs so day on day off for two weeks right?

welcome m8 read PartyBoys original post on page 1 this will give the the way to do it and no 1on 1 off aint as good as 2weeks on 2weeks off

Got some clen the other day, but I am not 100% it is real stuff. It is in a small square bottle with "clenbuterol" on the front in blue with "Made by LA Pharma S.r.l ITALY" written on the side if anyone is familiar with this brand. Got it from some website (Edit: no price discussion) Anywy have started taking it but feel no sides and no different so I am wondring if I have been bumped. Do some users not feel side effects? Any tips on getting good results with clen also would be much appreciated. Ta!

ORIGINAL: yiddo

Got some clen the other day, but I am not 100% it is real stuff. It is in a small square bottle with "clenbuterol" on the front in blue with "Made by LA Pharma S.r.l ITALY" written on the side if anyone is familiar with this brand. Got it from some website (Edit: no price discussion) Anywy have started taking it but feel no sides and no different so I am wondring if I have been bumped. Do some users not feel side effects? Any tips on getting good results with clen also would be much appreciated. Ta!

i only noticed sides when i went up to taking 6 all at once got bad headache
how many you taking now?

Blue_Lagoon3000

Ive been entered a few times by delivery men, i didn't hold it against them.

Try liquid Clen ... No sides at all!

This might be a dumb question but i have only ever used tablet clen...is liquid clen injection only or can you use a dropper onto your tongue etc cos i hate needles...?

You can get both, though most is oral liquid.

 

Hi PartyBoy I think its awesome how you help out and I was wondering if you can help me,

I found a website and was gonna order some clenbuterol and I was wondering if you ever heard of the brand name Spiropent and if its any good.
They come in 0.02 mg.

I read the previous comments and this is what I understand my cycle should be.

Day 1: 1 tab ( 20 mg )
Day 2: 2 tabs ( 40 mg )
Day 3: 3 tabs ( 60 mg )
Day 4: 4 tabs ( 80 mg )
Day 5: 5 tabs ( 100 mg )
Day 6: 6 tabs ( 120 mg )
Day 7 - Day 14: 7 tabs ( 140 mg )

Then I would stop for 2 weeks and start again on around 4 tabs? ( or whatever is comfortable )

I also wanted to take Cytomel T3 with this and I was wondering if you know a cycle which would let me take them together.
The cytomel I was gonna order from the same website as the clen comes in packs of 30 tabs and each tab is 50 mg each from a brand called Genepharm and also if you knew anything about that.

I found a website and it listed a bunch of cytomel brands but Genepharm was not in the list so Im not sure about it.
The website also said this..

' Cytomel can be stacked or alternated with clenbuterol. I usually recommend to alternate, three weeks clen with three weeks cytomel, since clen loses most of its benefits after a short period of time and using cytomel for extended time-periods will increase the risk of permanent thyroid failure. '

It also gives this info for a cytomel cycle..

' 25/25/25/50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100/100/75/75/75/50/50/50/25/25/25 mg/day. If taken for 4 weeks, then run each dose for 4 days, 5 weeks then each dose for 5 days and so on. It is extremely important that the doses are tapered on and off and that a cycle never exceeds 6 weeks at the most. '

Im just confused I wanted to take both clenbuterol and cytomel at the same time and wondered how I should do that.

So I could take clenbuterol for 2 weeks on and off ( like you suggest ) with the cycle above and take cytomel for 6 weeks straight from the cycle above also? So the cycle would last 6 weeks ( 4 weeks total of clen and 6 straight weeks of cytomel )

Thanks for any help you can give me.

ORIGINAL: Magno
I found a website and was gonna order some clenbuterol and I was wondering if you ever heard of the brand name Spiropent and if its any good.
They come in 0.02 mg.

Welcome Magno. Yes spiro's are superb - 0.02mg = 20mcg. Beware of websites - there are MANY scammers out there - you would be ill advised to buy from such places. Good sources do not operate websites.

I read the previous comments and this is what I understand my cycle should be.

Day 1: 1 tab ( 20 mg )
Day 2: 2 tabs ( 40 mg )
Day 3: 3 tabs ( 60 mg )
Day 4: 4 tabs ( 80 mg )
Day 5: 5 tabs ( 100 mg )
Day 6: 6 tabs ( 120 mg )
Day 7 - Day 14: 7 tabs ( 140 mg )

Then I would stop for 2 weeks and start again on around 4 tabs? ( or whatever is comfortable )

Yes, perfect.

I also wanted to take Cytomel T3 with this and I was wondering if you know a cycle which would let me take them together.

You can combine the two meds using a dosing schedule for T3 specified here:

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/8_%26_6_Week_T3_Dosages/m_158640/tm.htm

Be aware that T3 is catabolic and you will need anabolic support.

Cytomel can be stacked or alternated with clenbuterol. I usually recommend to alternate, three weeks clen with three weeks cytomel, since clen loses most of its benefits after a short period of time and using cytomel for extended time-periods will increase the risk of permanent thyroid failure. '

It also gives this info for a cytomel cycle..

' 25/25/25/50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100/100/75/75/75/50/50/50/25/25/25 mg/day. If taken for 4 weeks, then run each dose for 4 days, 5 weeks then each dose for 5 days and so on. It is extremely important that the doses are tapered on and off and that a cycle never exceeds 6 weeks at the most. '

I don't like this idea at all for reasons explained in the T3 link provided above.

 

jesus everyones a clen n eca stack addict these days ;p

if u nail ya diet , then clen is class

if ur diet is wank , then clen will be poor

plus when ya doin ya cardio make sure u dont overheat, its a bad situation or for me it was anyway :p
gta make sure u well hydrated like not just for 1 day, for everytime u take it

pretty cheap and easy to get hold of, no wonder everyone is on it :p

im gna start a good little cycle of clen n eph i think to lose a few lbs it worked last time

its an informative post how come so many questions regarding dosage n stuff :p i dnt understand sum peeps anyway, thx

Hi Partyboy.. im sorry to be rude but i really cant see myself going through 12 pages to get my answer!!

Female - 21 years old was 10st 41bs i am now 8st 41bs BMI - 20.2

I have been using eph for two months and i have lost two stones by eating healthy (no major excercises) just the normal daily routine such as walking running up and down the stairs. I have no eph left!!

I have now reached my goal but just want to loose a few more 1bs. I have some clen and need your advice on how to go about it (i only want to do it for two weeks)

Well done on your fat loss progress! Here is all the clen info collated into an article with reference to typical female dosaging too.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-clenbuterol.asp

tbh, 2 weeks alone probably won't be long enough to see much of a difference over and above what could be achieved through diet alone. I would say you need to be looking toward at least 2 * 2 week cycles. Also, if upto present you haven't really been incorporating cardio into your regime, nows the time to start, especially given that further fat loss will be more difficult to attain as you near your ultimate goal.

 

Firstly many thanks for your reply..

i have realised by taking clen my weight has gone up bu 11b is this because it tightens the mucsles??

Clen has minimal (if any) anabolic effect in humans. 1lb is neither here nor there tbh and could merely be additional water weight from increased carb intake.

 

Hi Partyboy,

I would just like to check if clenbuterol has a brand by the name of "Mavilex" from DuoPharma as i just bought it from a friend of my and wanted to check and make sure that we have the right stuff. Did a check on the internet but couldn't find this brand....

Anybody had any experience with clenbuterol 0,4mg manufactured by Hubei ( China )

I ordered it very spontaneously & without reading these forums properly

ORIGINAL: Roadrunner6908

I would just like to check if clenbuterol has a brand by the name of "Mavilex" from DuoPharma as i just bought it from a friend of my and wanted to check and make sure that we have the right stuff. Did a check on the internet but couldn't find this brand....

Welcome roadrunner. DuoPharma is a legit pharmaceutical company listed on the Malaysian stock market. It is a relative minnow with annual sales of c. GBP 7.2 million. (net profit GBP 1.75m).

unfortunately, I cannot find any evidence that they manufacture and distribute Clenbuterol at present, or have done so in the past.

Mavilex is/was a brand name for clenbuterol, though I cannot say whether it belonged to DuoPharma.

i would avoid.

 

ORIGINAL: Arctic

Anybody had any experience with clenbuterol 0,4mg manufactured by Hubei ( China )

I ordered it very spontaneously & without reading these forums properly

I understand many have used hubei bro with decent results. Be aware though that these are 40mcg tabs therefore double strength of 'standard' tabs. Adjust dosages accordingly.

 

Thanks for the info.

I was planning on taking 20, 40, 60, 80 & maybe staying at 80mcg ( I'm fem) till day 14 dep on side effects.
Followed by 2 weeks ECA & then repeat both again so 4 weeks in total & dep on the results I'll take it from there.

Sounds good.

 

clen doesn't last long in terms of positive effects does it?

Being a specific receptor agonist, receptors are farily quick to desensitise and down-regulate. Hence the reason for cycling the drug.

 

partyboy ive been taking eca now for sometime and im now taking a break so im gonna do 3 weeks clen will this be alright or shall i just take a 2 week complete break from it all to get my body back to normal so when i take eca again i get the full effects?

Blue_Lagoon3000

Ive been entered a few times by delivery men, i didn't hold it against them.

I'd take some time off tbh bro.

 

i think i will it looks like ive been doing eca for the last 4-5 months no wonder i dont get a buzz off it anymore how long do you reckon i should give my body before re-doing and eca/clen cycle?

Blue_Lagoon3000

Ive been entered a few times by delivery men, i didn't hold it against them.

Give it at least a month bro.