Human Growth Hormone

this has got to be the most informative post ive read on GH and it seems the jury is still out on amounts to take. seems to me like each individual body can react diferently. the one thing i'm missing is how to mix it.

so ive got the bottle of powder and the bottle of liquid. do i put all the liquid in with the powder, mix gently and draw off the 2iu's i need in the morning and the 2iu's i need at night or what. its sitting in my fridge and i wana get on it in low doses to start to see how i react but havnt got a clue how to mix and dont wana waste the cash.

and thanks all of ya for the posts so far.

Daz T

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SO which brand is the best to take?

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so ive got the bottle of powder and the bottle of liquid. do i put all the liquid in with the powder, mix gently and draw off the 2iu's i need in the morning and the 2iu's i need at night or what. its sitting in my fridge and i wana get on it in low doses to start to see how i react but havnt got a clue how to mix and dont wana waste the cash.

Different manufacturers supply different volumes of water. For example, you can get Jintropin 10IU kits supplied with 1ml water or Ansomone 4IU kits with 2ml water - go figure

For the Jin I'd use 1ml so each shot of 0.25ml would be 2.5IU and shoot twice per day.

For the ansomone I'd use 1ml of the 2ml so each 0.5ml shot would be 2IU and shoot twice per day.

As for storage etc I simply draw the whole solution up into a barrel (which will be 1ml) then shoot what I require then fridge the barrel. When the next shot is due just change the pin and shoot. (refridgerate as before if your barrel is a 4 shotter eg 10IU Jin kit).

 

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SO which brand is the best to take?

I've used ansomone and Jin and found them comparable. Given the choice I'd opt for the Jin at this time.

 

ORIGINAL: PJH20

SO which brand is the best to take?

I would recommend you to use Jintropin. It's not a cheapest HGH, but it really works if you use it right. The only thing is that you have to find original one from the reliable source. There's a lot of fake of Jintropin everywhere in the world.

I'm on the highway to hell.

I'm going to do Growth next year, i will have been of then for 4 months, so i've been thinking of doing a few things, any advice would be greatly appreciated. I have been told a few different things, run it 5/2 split run it 7 days a week and then i have been told that you should run it for 1 month on 1 month of but in high dosages, this info was given to me by a lecturer in sports science and he is pretty well respected in his field.
With all that in mind has anyone tried the different approaches and if so whats the best, i aint to worried about the price as by the time i go to do it i will have a fair bit saved.
I was thinking of doing somthing like this:

jan= week 1-2, 1 vial viromone E3rd day, 1-4 3ml sus, 4ml deca

Feb= HGH 4ius 5/2 10ius slin 5/2, 4ml sus, 4ml deca, 40mg dbol day, 1ml tren eod

march = HGH 4ius 5/2, 1 vial viromone E3rd day

April = HGH 4ius 5/2 10ius slin 5/2, week 1-2 1 vial viromone E3rd day, 1-4 4ml testiviron

May = HGH 4ius 5/2, 4ml testiviron, 40mg dbol day

June= HGH 4ius 5/2, 4ml cyp, 4ml deca, 1 tren eod

July = HGH 4ius 5/2, 4ml cyp, 4ml deca, 1 tren eod

Aug = HGH 4ius 5/2, 1 vial of viromone EOD 1 vial of winney EOD

Sept = 1 vial of viromone E3rd day, 1 vial of winney EOD week 1-2

OCT pct


Yea i know it's a lot but then i cant see the point of doing growth for a short time because most people say you have to do it over a long period, and to get the best from it you need to run gear so i have tried to switch the tests around, and dropping them every couple o months to try and stop it from being to crazy

And yes i have done slin before, and can you run that 1 on 1 of?

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I agree, Jintropin is the best around. Great results from it.

pb mate...

does the carpal tunnel syndrome cease once GH therapy stops?

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Yes mate. I've yet to hear of anyone having long term issues. Mine subsided within a few days of cessation.

 

great stuff...

been running 5iu per day, 7 days per week for 6 weeks now... the last 2 weeks ive been getting tingling/tight fingers and numbness in same area.. running this course for 10 weeks total..

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Have any of you done over 6i.u a day and was there any noticeable difference in effect/side effects? I get tingling hands, dead arms and legs at night sometimes.

i'd be seriously careful with this stuff guys. i'm astudent and did a special study module on hGH, its serious gear. i mean there is steroids and theres steroids but this **** is sumthin else. its a somatotropic peptide hormone. i'm all for gear but wouldn't touch this with a ten foot barge pole.

as for the growth plate issue. yes growth plates of long bones have closed and are no longer responsive to hGH. however bones such as in the jaw and some others in the feet and hands etc remain sensitive to hGH. so prepare for a condition called acromegaly, big feet and hands, enlarged jaw. not to mention leathary skin and internal organ growth, heart growth (hyopertrohy) that will narrow heart chambers, reduce its blood output, increase your BP chronically and the list goes on.
also there is very little evidence that suggests growth hormone GROWS new muscle fibers as may have been suggested earlier, current research says this is not possible, although it can occur in animals, maybe thats where people are getting it from.

in children hGH is used for growth, however in adults it is used as a metabolic hormone with a big influence on blood glucose. it increases blood glucose, mimicking the effects of a high blood glucose level. e.g you will be like a diabetic. incase u never knew you will be at risk of diabetic complications, eye damage, circulation damage, athoroma, stroke, heart disease, high blood pressure, not to mention the increase chance of going into a glucose induced hyperglycaemic coma.

as i said gear is bad enough, but hGH is sumin else... be careful!!
p.s i do gear and i know its not that good for me, so i'm no goody goody, jus want ya;ll to think first.

good luck

domenicdirollo

Hi mate do you have any clue as to amounts of HGH to get these side effects like doing 10iu ed for 6 months or is it hit and miss.
Say 2iu ed for 4 months and still suffer the effects you describe

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Any thoughts on that PB

<< Jouko Ahola.

Partyboy did i read your post right. 7-10 iu of insulin am and the same pm? Do I still have to use insulin if only using 2iu of HGH per day, will that amount cause hypoglycemia?I am unsure on how much insulin to use.

You don't need to use slin - and I would advise against it unless you are competition standard tbh.

 

ORIGINAL: Pimpdiddy

Have any of you done over 6i.u a day and was there any noticeable difference in effect/side effects? I get tingling hands, dead arms and legs at night sometimes.

I am running 8iu's per day at the moment i am not using any AAS due to me and the wife wanting another child but the GH and the addition of IGF-1 at a later stage in my contest prep should be enough...

I started at 4iu's then increased it to 8 per day i had an increase in weight of around 5-6lbs within the first week obvouisly this was water in the muscle which helped with me fill out alot after 6months without AAS has left me very flat.......lol

I did get some tingling in the hands and feet but this subsided after approx 10 days...
I intend to keep on this amount until my first show of 2006 on the 23rd of april...

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I am going to try my fist ever cycle and I am looking for advice. I will be taking Serostim (5mg) per day and looking to add some AAS. I have taken Serostim by itself before, but never with anything. Any recommendations you can make would be appreciated. I also have access to T3 and T4 (I inherited hypothyroidism). I am looking to start at the beginning of the new year.

Thanks!

Has anyone noticed any renewed youthfullness of there skin? are we talking botox quality here

When some MTers are posting negatives on this stuff they seem to be huge negatives but are we talking sides from huge doses?

What about this postive mood aspect also,true?

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I will be taking Serostim (5mg) per day and looking to add some AAS.

welcome.

15IU per day? That's an awful lot tbh bro

 

Yep, 5mg per day. That is what I have taken in the past, however I have never used any anabolics with it. Suggestions?? I am looking to drop fat as well as build mass, so open to other supplements too. Desperately looking for some good advice!!

Hey PB am gonna try HGH in a coupla weeks and have been scouring the forum to finalize details. Can you review my 15 wk stack pls? i respond betr to short cycles so that may explain the strange administration schedule

WK 1-3
5IU jin HGH 5on/2off
300mg test prop EOD
50mg proviron ED
25mcg T3 ED

WK 4-5
5IU jin HGH 5on/2off
40mcg clen ED
20mg nolva ED

repeat cycle 3 times or as much as i can afford HGH!

i also need some advise on what times to inject HGH at- first thing and tea time?
is a 17aa oral reqd to help wth IGF1 levels and if so at what times?
is T3 used only after wk 3?
are carbs reqd every meal time as i am not taking insulin?

thanks

Just been told hgh can cause cartilege growth. is this true

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ORIGINAL: dave100

Just been told hgh can cause cartilege growth. is this true

I've no idea tbh

 

Hey PB am gonna try HGH in a coupla weeks and have been scouring the forum to finalize details. Can you review my 15 wk stack pls? i respond betr to short cycles so that may explain the strange administration schedule

WK 1-3
5IU jin HGH 5on/2off
300mg test prop EOD
50mg proviron ED
25mcg T3 ED

WK 4-5
5IU jin HGH 5on/2off
40mcg clen ED
20mg nolva ED

repeat cycle 3 times or as much as i can afford HGH!

i also need some advise on what times to inject HGH at- first thing and tea time?
is a 17aa oral reqd to help wth IGF1 levels and if so at what times?
is T3 used only after wk 3?
are carbs reqd every meal time as i am not taking insulin?

PB can you review these as well

thanks

What goals do you have in mind bro?

If I were you I'd forget about the 2 weeks nolva (assuming its there for recovery purposes) if the cycle are to be so closely scheduled. Perhaps instead implement a small test bridge and attempt a solid pct post cycle. Ideally, you need GH every day though I do appreciate £££ constraints. It requires splitting twice per day, I did mine anytime a.m. and the second around 7-10pm. I wouldn't worry about 17-aa's and IGF tbh.

Carbs aren't necessary at all times; tailor your carb intake around your goals. Are you using T3 for fat loss or just increased p turnover?

 

PB, goal is to gain lean mass really. Im 15' @ 13% and would just like to gain muscle whilst dropping bodyfat (yes i know v hard to acheive lol! ). T3 is merely thrown in as precautionary not for fat loss.
Iv a mate whos been adding hgh to his modest stacks for the last 6 months and the difference in his physique is great. He has stayed 15' but dropped to around 8% bf so i guess thats the idea

Hey Guys
Im 21 years old and looking into taking an oral hgh!
Its called OXYHGH
any one have any info onthe product,a nd knwo if it would be benificial to me at all to gain lean muscle.
Any one know if this stuff could do any harm to me
I knwo teh FDA has made the product eligal now.

Thanks Guys

Dave

There is no oral HGH (at least at this time). Any product that claims to deliver HGH orally is a scam.

 

I have considers taken growth hormone as i am 25 and haven't aged a bit since the age of 16, can growth hormone help to thicken up the skull i.e the jaw and overall head shape?? people say i look like leonardo di caprio when he was in Titanic and HE looks about 13 in that film!! Im happy with my height (5ft 11in) it just seems i aint filling out(My bone structure) Can u help mate?? thanx.

On the subject of GH,I'm after some advice as I've just acquired 240IU of Ansomone and have never taken it before. I know you have be careful mixing as its pretty unstable so how do you mix it carefully??

I was gonna do 4IU ED for 8 weeks(although this isn't cast in stone) with some slin 7-10IU on training days and run high andro (test enan/deca/aquaviron) throughout....I'm trying to pack some decent mass on!
Is 4IU ED for 8 weeks about right for a 1st timer??

Also I couldn't get any T3 but got some T4 instead. I know T3 is the best(and I think it converts to T4 as well) but is it a MUST? Will T4 suffice??

hi wot a great site you have put some good advice on here ,im 34 and been training a few years now ive done gh,slin before at 6iu ed for a long time but didnt get much from either not sure wot im doing wrong ,can you please help before i give up on a dream since i was 5 years old, and the gear was not fake ,i never took orals only test, does estrogen work against gh cause of fat build up? or do you have to take them at certain windows of time , i would really apreciate your help. gnc, essex

Welcome gnc.

Please post a new thread in this forum to receive more specific advice regading slin use and timings.

GH is effective for bbing purposes at 4IU+ per day, split twice though the actual timings of GH are not particularly important.

I'm a little confused by your statement regarding orals. There is only 1 oral testosterone and comes as an crimson oval capsule called Andriol which contains 40mg testosterone undecanoate. It is a relatively expensive and poor choice of a steroid for bbers.

I suspect you may get much better results in terms of muscular gains from steroids, or if your goal is fat loss, from meds such as Ephedrine/clenbuterol (with diet and cardio nailed).

 

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I know you have be careful mixing as its pretty unstable so how do you mix it carefully??

The vials are under vaccum so will draw the water dilutant in very fast if not careful. Stick the pin into the rubber at an angle so it aims for the side of the vial. As you insert the pin, hold back on the plunger so you can control the flow rate into the vial; even then, it may still shoot into the vial and just create negative pressure inside the barrel. This is no biggie if the pin is directed onto the side of the glass rather than the lypholised powder itself.

Once the water is added roll gently the vial between your fingers to mix the solution - this can take 2 or 3 minutes. Do not shake.

Is 4IU ED for 8 weeks about right for a 1st timer??

Sounds ideal bro.

but is T3 a MUST? Will T4 suffice??

Thyroid meds pe se are not a must. If you do want to run them, T4 is fine.

 

thanks for getting back to me ,can i put it another way wot would i have to take and how to look harder and thicker ,how would you recomend a course , thanks gnc.

Lowering bodyfat and gaining muscle are opposing goals as one require a calorie deficit, the other requires calorie surplus.

Therefore concentrate on one goal at a time. Fat loss = cutting diet/cardio + perhaps eca & clen. Muscle growth = sufficient calorie intake + perhaps steroids

 

Good bit of info on GH, can you recommend where to get sterile water viles as I will need them to do the GH???

Apparently Boots have them behind the counter though your GH kit should come supplied with water