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Ephedrine and Hoodia
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17 June 2007 11:28
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Hi guys, Really glad to find this forum as there is only so much you can read on the net as it all contradicts itself anyway, so any help or opinions on this will be greatly appreciated. I used to do quite a bit of weight training but stopped this around 6 months ago to work on more CV related things as that what I was struggling with. Was doing well until injured myself at rugby and now starting back training a few pounds heavier. I have been reading LOADS on Ephedrine and Hoodia as I have been trying to find a product that for once actually assists with fat burn and not just a cheap marketing gimmick. I have read some of your reccomendations on other threads but want to ask the question for myself. Please could you tell me the best or strongest product and where I can order it from please? I was considering the link below but I dont want to waste money on something that is just crap and does not do anything as I have had this before with slim bomb and stuff like that. I need to burn fat, that is my goal, need to drop a stone of it without reducing muscle mass if pos, then again if I keep training that shouldn't happen too much I hope. heres the link, http://www.ephedrinep57.com/ingredients.htm Any help appreciated guys, Cheers Ben PS- When I say weight loss I mean i want this whilst im working on my CV, dont expect to just sit there and it happen over night.
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17 June 2007 12:41
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You can read the Sticky written by PartyBoy on ECA. Ephederine Caff and Aspirin. Its the thing I would say to use. I guess you are in USA since that was a US site. If so then that is a total ripoff. (in my opinion, allegedly, reportedly) You can buy ephedrine for cheaper. Link If you are in the USA just go to any pharm and get it. Those tabs are 12.5 each so you need 2 per dose. Then you just need Aspirin (dirt cheap anywhere) , some caff pills or powder and you are in business. Read the article on ECA for specifics of its effects to see if it is for you or not. Personally outside of T3 it works the best for me because of the appetite supression.
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17 June 2007 12:57
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Hi Fred, Thanks for the reply, I did read what partyboy had wrote, very good write up and helpful. Im up for trying it as I can keep an eye on it and stop if need be. Could you just remind me of the ratio of what should be taken? Is it 2 of these in the link you gave, plus 1 aspirin and 1 caff pill and breakfast and before training? Im actually in the UK.
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17 June 2007 13:51
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You do not need alot of aspirin. Generally guys use the 85mg ones or cut up the larger 300+mg tabs. I am a big fan of adjusting the caff to your personal tolerance levels. If you have high tolerance bump it up to 200mg per dose. Check to see what the dosage of the caff pills you have are. My routine on ECA is trying to get as many doses (4 max!!) without it affecting my sleep.
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17 June 2007 15:46
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i think Ill start with one or two doses and see how I get on. Cheers for your help. Will post what affect it has providing Im not shking too much! lol
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18 June 2007 07:24
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Seperate question, whilst taking this mix how does alcohol mix with it? My reason for asking is on the weekend I tend to have a few pints on a Saturday afternoon. Is there any danger of doing so whilst on eph?
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18 June 2007 11:40
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I cant see a problem with eph/hoodia and drinking a few pints. Tell u something Ben that eph/hoodia combination you were considering taking is very expensive mate. 1 bottle $75/£38 odd is really expensive even with the buy 2 get 1 free they are over the top for just 10mg of eph per serving. Try Astro nutrition (they are one of the sponsers on MT) they sell pure 8mg ephedrine tablets and if you want hoodia check out ebay both these will be much cheaper. www.musclefinesse.co.uk sell a product called eph 25+ which has 30mg of ephedrine per 60 tabs for £24.99 Also Ben when I checked out that eph/hoodia site I went to their order page to check the price when I did not order and tried to close the window a pop up appeared and offered me another 40% off. Just find that even more of a rip off.
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18 June 2007 14:34
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Thanks for the info Will, just trying to find something that is going to help and make a difference for once without messing myself up too much. Would you recomend these eph tablets over the ones fred suggested above? Would you still mix with caffine and aspirin? Cheers Ben
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18 June 2007 16:38
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Are you from the UK or US Ben? If you are from the US use the ones Fred recomends, if u are from the UK go to boots and ask for Do Do Chesteze which is a similiar product (1 do do chesteze 18.5mg ephedrine) or try Eph 25+ from www.musclefinesse.co.uk which will have 30mg ephedrine 120mg caffeine 80mg of asprin. Ephedrine/caffeine/asprin (ECA stack) is the ideal mixture buddy, have you read Party boys article at the top of this forum yet? The usual ECA has the following; E = Ephedrine 30mg C = Caffeine 200mg A = Asprin 75mg You could start off with the following: 1x Do Do chestezze = 18.5mg ephedrine 3x Pro plus or 2 instant coffees = 150mg of caffeine 1x 75mg asprin
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18 June 2007 18:31
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Yeah I am from USA and am not sure of what Ephedrine products are available in the UK. Just get the cheapest one you can.
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18 June 2007 18:38
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Is Ben from the US aswell Fred?
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18 June 2007 18:58
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ORIGINAL: Ben2563 Im actually in the UK.
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18 June 2007 19:07
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Sorry Fred, how I missed that I dont know  .
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19 June 2007 07:15
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Thanks guys, really helpful and do appreciate it.
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19 June 2007 22:07
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Also Ben if you are considering taking ECA stack or just Ephedrine by itself take the first dose straight after u wake up in the morning and the second dose no later than 2pm to 3pm, cos u might have trouble sleeping.
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20 June 2007 08:13
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does this ephedrine and hoodia really works?i mean losing weight...and will the weight comes back if we stop using tat??
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20 June 2007 10:57
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They are not miracle pills cheyyi. Whether you start to accumulate fat again on cessation depends entirely on your diet and exercise commitments.
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