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Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 13 March 2003 16:43
Cashman?s Guide For Beginners

This is a long post but valuable to the novice who wants to begin bodybuilding (and to save repeating myself again & again ). I?ll not be getting too scientific with this as it?s geared to the very inexperienced to outline the key principles that must be considered to maximise the inevitable gains a complete beginner will make and to get into the good habits as early as possible.

So you wanna be a bodybuilder? Here are the elements you should consider?..

1. Mind-set
So often neglected by the beginner and yet the most important ingredient in success?. DESIRE. So many fail by seeing it as a short term goal to improve your physique. This will contribute to failure. Get it out of your head that you need to get in shape for your holiday in 8 weeks time. You should see it as a lifestyle. A way to live your life. "A bodybuilder is for life not just for Christmas"

Accept the condition your body is in and make the decision to change your life to achieve your objectives. Accept it is a long term plan and you will not be disheartened if it takes time to improve. Lets face it folks, if it was easy then everbody would be doing it.

Be realistic about your goals. A beginner should not be saying I want to lose 30Ibs of fat and gain 20Ibs of lean muscle in 2 months. It Just Won?t happen, yet people time & again put this sort of image in their mind and become disheartened when it doesn?t happen that fast. Time to wake up and forget the brainwashing from much of the health & fitness industry we have endured most of our lives to sell their latest fat loss or muscle growth gimmick.

Prepare yourself for hard work and sacrifice and you will see it as something you love and not as a chore. You will see it as something that distinguishes you from the masses who cannot be bothered or those who shoulder too much pride to seek advice. As soon as you see it as a chore you are on the path to failure.


2. Objective Setting

First of all assess your physique. Decide what you need to do most of all ? Lose fat, build muscle. How fat you are, or how small your muscles are, will determine where your priorities are. I feel this is important so that you can set yourself some attainable targets. Remember?. For fat loss, the more muscle you have the more calories your body burns at rest and while exercising a Ib of muscle burns roughly 10x as many calories as a Ib of fat (approx 70 cals per hour compared to 7 cals per hour for fat).

Set some sensible targets e.g. to lose 10Ibs of fat in 5 weeks and gain 5 Ibs of lean muscle mass. Despite what we think, it is physically more difficult to build muscle than to lose fat. You can, though not advisable, lose 4 or 5 Ibs of fat in a week (as you are likely to lose muscle mass). You cannot build 5Ibs of lean muscle in a week.... live with that fact as It will not happen.

Setting some lifting targets as you become familiar with the exercises and your routine e.g adding 20kg to your bench press in a month, will help you gauge your progress.

3. Training ? Weights

Your weights routine will be the bedrock of your lean muscle gains. To make consistant and long term gains you should make of point of having a structured weight routine from the start.

My first recommendation is to join a good gym. A gym that offers a comprehensive induction process, members of staff who know what they are doing. It should have a full range of free weights & equipment, lots of dumbells and plates (especially plenty of the heavy plates-20Kgs) for you to work your way up to the bigger weights. A good gym will be one where you feel comfortable.

It is very important that as a novice you are NOT INTIMIDATED by training alongside much more experienced bodybuilders. They won?t bite you !!!! Most are very nice, helpful and normal people that are good fun and very helpful. They will not be looking down at you because you are new to the sport. We all were at some time! In fact use their experience to help show you how to do exercises correctly, etc as most of us just love the sound of our own voice and will not hesitate to help someone less experienced. Swallow that pride folks.

My preference is to start as you mean to go on and learn to use free-weights asap. They will allow a much more thorough workout of the muscles than machines due to the full range of natural motion you can achieve in the exercises and that they recruit many more fibres in the supporting muscles and working muscles than machines. More fibres recruited?.. More muscle gains you?ll make.

GET YOUR FORM RIGHT!!!! This cannot be stressed enough. Poor form is rife amongst the MAJORITY of gym goers and will vastly hinder your progress. Do not sacrifice good form in ALL exercises for more weight just to feed your ego! Your muscles will develop MUCH quicker and you will have much less risk of injury if your form is good. If you cannot complete good form with the exercise then the weight is too heavy for you. It's that simple! Live with it! And work at getting stronger while having perfect form. Do not try and compete against the bloke next to you who is doing it wrong but lifting heavier. (in 6 months time he'll be the one that won't have grown much at all and you can leave him to wonder how you have put on so much mass.)

To see how any exercises are done correctly click here ?
www.exrx.net
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.htm

Try and separate your workouts into splits ? chest, biceps, triceps, back, traps, legs, calves, shoulders, abs. Train each group once a week and your body will have plenty of time to recover and rest. You grow when you rest.

A nice 4 day split that will not kill you is
- Chest/Triceps/Abs
- Back/Biceps
- Shoulders/Traps
- Legs/Calves

As a good rule aim for 9-12 sets (MAXIMUM) for Large Muscle groups (Chest/Back/Legs) followed by a smaller muscle group for 6-8 sets (MAXIMUM)(Biceps/Triceps/Shoulders/Abs/Calves). Go easy on the biceps as they are much smaller than the tricep so will probably respond better at the lower end of that set range. Forget about doing 50 sets of bicep curls for big arms! You'll overtrain them and they will not grow to their full potential.

Also as a good rule work at a weight that you can perform 6-8 reps with strict form with before you can?t hold good form anymore. When 8x becomes comfortable then you can add a little more weight on. 6-8 reps is the best compromise between hypertrophy gains (muscle growth) & strength gains. Where you see "train to failure " - this means until you cannot do anymore reps at that weight with perfect form.

Here?s an idea for a routine as an example which was my own routine based on gaining lean mass and shifting some bodyfat:

SATURDAY - Chest/Tri
5 Min warm-up
Dumbell Flat Bench - 4 sets 6-8 reps
Weighted Dips For Chest - 4 sets 6-8 reps (last set to failure)
Incline Dumbell Fly- 4 sets 6-8 reps (last set to failure) (Lay so head is at the top of the bench)
Skull Crushers - 3 sets 6-8 reps (or close grip bench press)
overhead cable presses 3 sets 6-8 reps (last set to fail) (or close grip bench presses)


SUNDAY - Back/Bi
5 min warm-up
Deadlifts 4 sets 6-8 reps (last set to failure)
Bent Over One Arm Dumbell Rows 4 sets 6-8 reps
Chins or Lat pulldowns 3 sets 6-8 reps (last set to fail)
(I would prefer you to do chins instead though if you are strong enough to lift your bodyweight)
Barbell Bicep curl 3 sets 6-8 reps
One arm Dumbell Hammer curls 3 sets 6-8 reps


MONDAY
REST & Cardio (30 mins swimming before brekkie approx 40 lengths)

TUESDAY - Delts/traps
5 min warm-up
Seated Dumbell military press (Sit on Bench while executing) - 3 sets 6-8 reps
Lateral dumbell raises (side) 3 sets 6-8 reps (last to fail)
Barbell Shrugs 5 sets 6-8 reps

WEDNESDAY
REST & Cardio (30 mins swimming b4 brekkie)

THURSDAY - Legs & Abs
5 min warm-up
Barbell Squats 4 sets 6-8 reps
Stiff Legged Dead Lifts 3 sets 6-8 reps
Calf Raises (link shows seated) 4 sets 8-10 reps (last set to fail)
Weighted Swiss Ball crunches 4 sets 6-8 reps
hanging leg raises 4 sets 6-8 reps
Dumbell side bends 3 sets 6-8 reps

FRIDAY
REST & Cardio (30 mins swim b4 brekkie)


[SEE END OF POST FOR ALTERNATE ROUTINE TO CHANGE TO WHEN YOU HIT PLATEAU]


For some other routine ideas click here - http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=29461




4. Rest
This is very important. You should aim to give your muscles a week?s rest for recovery and growth. Muscles grow while you rest. It is very easy to overtrain and when you do your body goes into catabolysis (where it starts using the body?s protein source ? muscle). This is not good. Many budding Bodybuilders overtrain and wonder why their biceps haven?t grown in the last 6 months! (that is why I have listed the rep & set numbers like I have). It is very easy to overtrain, especially when you are very enthusiastic at the outset. To begin with you will most likely gain some muscle but not nearly as much as if you rested properly. No good doing 20x sets of bicep curls 3x a week. Your arms will not grow!

You should get a minimum of 8hrs sleep every night. You grow while you sleep. Less than 7hrs and you start to risk catabolysis of the muscles and lose those hard earned gains.

5. Training ? Cardio
Important for fat loss & cardiovascular fitness. You should aim to do cardio on separate sessions from weights so that your muscle glycogen is used while weight training to fuel the muscles. DO NOT perform cardio before the weights sessions otherwise you reduce the potency of the weights session.

Fat loss cardio should be at 65% Max Heart Rate (MHR) for 30-40 mins and ideally before breakfast so that your body can tap into its fat stores for fuel immediately. Any more than this and at a higher intensity then your body will also utilise protein for fuel and lead to muscle loss (HIIT is the exception to this but we?ll keep it simple for now). If time is a prob then if you have to do cardio in the same session as weights then do it AFTER the weights and for no more than 20 mins at 65% MHR. Always try to have a protein shake before cardio (even 1st thing in the morning).

Endurance cardio is done at higher intensity. Not great for bodybuilders as it is more catabolic but with protein taken before & after the session it should minimise catabolysis.

6. Diet
I?m gonna keep this real simple ? EAT CLEAN, EAT BIG - Try and eat every 3hrs to keep protein flowing through your body to provide a positive nitrogen balance and to keep your metabolic rate high.

<b>Muscle growth</b> ? High Protein, High Complex Carbohydrates, Moderate Fat (good fats ? flax seed oil, rape seed oil, etc)
<b>Fat Loss </b>? High Protein, Lower Complex Carb, Lower Fat.

To lose fat you need to use more calories than you consume. To gain muscle you need to raise the calories to a higher level than you would utilise. This means a little fat gain but with some gentle adjusting you?ll find where your level is at. Aim for 1.5g of protein per Ib bodyweight for gaining & fat loss. 200Ib person would need 300g protein in diet per day for bodybuilding.

Worth going to the diet forum for specific diet advice as this is a BIG area.

Also remember to get protein in you before you go to bed, when you wake up and immediately after weights. This is when your body needs it most.


7. Supplements

Food.
Good whey Protein supplement for post training & when you wake up.
That?s it! As a beginner you are wasting money on all the muscle solutions, fat burners, etc that are out there as your body will change drastically with 6 months hard work. Once you have the basic platform then you can think about extra supplements. As for beginners thinking about steroids?. Forget it. They are for the serious & experienced Bodybuilder who has reached their natural limit. A get big quick solution may seem appealing to a novice but do not be tempted as you need to know what your body?s limits are to use these effectively IMO.


Finally remember that bodybuilding is about getting a good balance between attitude/weight training/Rest/Cardio/Diet. If you neglect any of the areas I have mentioned so far then you are not fulfilling your natural potential.

Good luck and any questions you have feel free to post away??

Likewise, if any of the experienced Bro?s have anything to add (I?m sure there?ll be plenty ) then please do so.

8) Wear Comfortable clothing!
http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/bodybuilding-tshirt.asp
(This is a James Edit!)


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Alternate Routine 1.

When you find that your strength & mass gains start to slow and you want to change the routine then you can try this one for size...

Chest/Shoulders/Tri

5 Min warm-up
Dumbell Incline Bench - 5 sets 5 reps (very low incline)
Weighted Dips For Chest - 5 sets 5 reps
Seated Dumbell military press 5 sets 5 reps
Skull Crushers - 5 sets 5 reps (or close grip bench press)



Back/Trap/Bi

5 min warm-up
Deadlifts 5 sets 5 reps
Wide Grip Chins 5 sets 5 reps
Bent Over Barbell Rows 3 sets 5 reps
Barbell Bicep curl 5 sets 5 reps (Strict Form!!!)
Incline seated dumbell curls 3 sets 5 reps (arguably this exercise can be cut out. Just listen to your body and decide how knackered your biceps are by this point)


Legs & Abs

5 min warm-up
Barbell Squats 5x sets 5 reps
Stiff Legged Dead Lifts 5 sets 5 reps
Calf Raises 5 sets 5 reps (last set to fail)
Weighted Swiss Ball crunches 4x sets 6-8 reps
lying leg raises 4x sets 6-8 reps (if you can do these resisted tyhen even better.)
Dumbell side bends 3x sets 6-8 reps


I've put a combination in that will work you hard. Start to push yourself hard on the weight and on the 5x5 exercises don't worry if you can only do 2 reps on your last set. It's better that you work harder on your early sets and keep the weight the same on your later sets but drop the rep numbers as your muscle tires, than to drop the weight. When you can actually hit 5 sets of 5 reps then it's time to add some more weight. Your strength should progress nicely.
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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 13 March 2003 19:08
good read. i've passed this on to my GF who's just started working out with me

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 14 March 2003 09:03
quote:
Originally posted by JohnnyFive

I really like that Nietzsche quote.

[:p]



That makes me happy knowing that writing this guide was not a complete waste LOL.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 14 March 2003 10:42
Wicked post mate, you hav covered every angle of BB,
Might even switch to that routine myself !!

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 14 March 2003 11:55
Great article - stickied!
thanks

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 14 March 2003 13:27
Yeah a great post Cashman, thanks m8. Im going to apply alot of it to my routine.


I'm sure its going to benefit alot of beginners like myself, nice one!!

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 14 March 2003 16:03
now i know what cashie has been doing instead of working this week!

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 15 March 2003 15:20
quote:
Originally posted by aussiebastard

now i know what cashie has been doing instead of working this week!



LOL, yeah , that & quitting my job

Thanks for the feedback guys. Anything else that people may want to add that they feel might be beneficial for beginners to BBing then feel free to chip in.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 15 March 2003 17:51
Cashman, "Top Job" there mate! Where the bloody hell was the article when I started. :-)

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 17 March 2003 11:51
Nice one Mr. Cashman.

I'd re-emphasise the point about gear(anabolic steroids) being no good for the beginner. It's a waste of time, money and health in the early days.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 25 March 2003 20:48
From a beginners point of view nice contribution, Cashman I found it very interesting.

Thanks for making the effort.

Hiuok

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 31 March 2003 11:56
Cashman for president!

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 02 April 2003 09:16
LOL Burton. Thanks guys.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 05 April 2003 19:24
nice, very good advice.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 04 May 2003 21:42
it got me reading
its good your the5fth person to say this in other words gaining muscle is not an overnight thing if it takes u to get 1 stonein a year then so be it it is better tan nothing

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 05 May 2003 12:24
Great post Cashman

I'm wondering how important the 10-12 reps are for the bigger muscles as compared to 6-8? AT the moment I'm doing 3x8 on all exercises except 4x8 for the compound ones. am I doing it correctly..

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 09 May 2003 17:32
I have a question `. I have beed advised to to do Monday: chest/biceps
Teusday: Legs wed : off Thurs: back abbs Friday : shoulders triceps.

But my biceps get a hammering from doing back work. Does this mean im probably over training my biceps?. They are more or less getting hit twice a week. I thought about not working on a weekly basis and doing a days rest between each workout and then 2 days off then start over again. to increase my rest times.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 19 May 2003 09:43
quote:
Originally posted by Radio

I have a question `. I have beed advised to to do Monday: chest/biceps
Teusday: Legs wed : off Thurs: back abbs Friday : shoulders triceps.

But my biceps get a hammering from doing back work. Does this mean im probably over training my biceps?. They are more or less getting hit twice a week. I thought about not working on a weekly basis and doing a days rest between each workout and then 2 days off then start over again. to increase my rest times.



I'd put your back day to friday to allow more recovery between back & legs as these are often the most draining days. This is pretty common if you don't do biceps with back IMO. Pertsonally I'd put trticeps with chest, biceps after back, shoulders & traps and legs as a decent 4 day split. It's good that you are listening to your body though as most don't.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 23 May 2003 15:38
this is my routine what do you think i should add

arm curls
bent over rows
military press
bench press
shrugs
tricep extensions
for each one i do 7 kg in each hand and before i do 20 press ups for a warm up and just so you know i am 13 years old
i dont want to build my leg muscles
tuesday
thursday
saturday

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 25 May 2003 00:53
nice post cashman,u even got tysonback reading,wow....lol

razor, can i suggest u starting up a new thread, ull get a better reply that way mate.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 04 June 2003 10:50
quote:
Originally posted by Maestro

nice post cashman,u even got tysonback reading,wow....lol

razor, can i suggest u starting up a new thread, ull get a better reply that way mate.



LMAO

Razor, post a new thread fella and we'll be happy to help.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 07 June 2003 02:35
I was told that it would be better do to chest and back on the same day, then tri's and bi's together for day two. Anyone have an opinion on this [?]

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 07 June 2003 22:10
Nice one Cashman!!! (this one will defo help hundreds)
All good information, I am gona pass a copy of this on to a mate at work who always asks how to do this and that, and gets conflicting info from the muscle mags.
Good points well put, straight down the line and easy to understand.
Excellent weight routine there, rep ranges and sets spot on. (Nearly carbon copy of mine) now I know I'm doin it right.
One question tho m8, why no chin-ups on back / bicep day?

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 10 June 2003 10:01
quote:
Originally posted by Dan V

I was told that it would be better do to chest and back on the same day, then tri's and bi's together for day two. Anyone have an opinion on this [?]



Yep. I do (surprise surprise LOL). Personally I'm a big believer in pre exhausting a minor muscle group while working a larger first. This means that you will hit most muscles hard only 1x a week allowing plenty of rest. e.g Chest & Tri's together. Virtually every chest exercise utilises a little tricep effort. So after benching your tri's will have been worked as well. That way you only need to do a few following sets specifically for that area at the end of your session. They will then have a whole week to recover. If you don't train tri's when you train chest then you will train tri's twice a week.

Many like tri & Bi's together because of the pump it gives the whoile arm which swells and looks bigger for a few hours but often leads to overtraining and hindered growth progress IMO unless you are well in tune with your body and training.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 11 June 2003 00:16
Ah, I gotcha Cashman. I've been doing the chest/back and bi's/tri's thing up until now. I'm gonna try what you suggest for a while and see if it works better. It probably will work out better anyways, since I dont really like trying to do two large muscle groups on the same day. Thanks.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 11 June 2003 11:45
No prob Dan. You're body is likely to respond really well to the change. It's not a great idea to train to large muscle groups at the same time as it can take a lot out of you. Especially if yu are doing stuff like deadlifts and weighted dips for the same session.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 11 June 2003 21:51
Bump for responce to my question above...
why no chin-ups on back / bicep day? any reason?

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 12 June 2003 09:50
You can definitely replace lat pull downs with Chins and I'd advise anyone to, though some might feel more comfy starting on the lat pull down first as it's an easier exercise to master IMO. Chins are great for the lats so chin away. :-)

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 12 June 2003 09:51
also forgot to add that many beginners that are heavy might not be strong enough to chin their weight to begin with, especially if they don't have a chin assist station at their gym. Every gym I've seen has a lat pull down machine though.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 24 July 2003 05:52
Yeah tell me about doing 2 big muscles on the same day taking a lot out of you. I did back and chest on the same day. Next day I slept for 13 freaking hours.

By the way, I have been workout out for about a year. Am I still a beginner, would I still benefit from this program? Thanks.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 24 July 2003 05:54
Oh and the chins thing, I can't do more than 5 with my bodyweight. Is that enough?

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 24 July 2003 13:51
dragon bro, if you have a healtrhy split routine already then just use this for some ideas for change-ups. The principles are sound though so if you don't already then take ALL the elements I have included to heart. N-Joy :-)

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 24 July 2003 13:53
quote:
Originally posted by Slyblackdragon

Oh and the chins thing, I can't do more than 5 with my bodyweight. Is that enough?



That's fine. You'll get stronger the more you do it and as long as you eat & rest well as well.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 31 July 2003 15:26
Trippitaka told me to look at your post, and bugger me if I a'int been doing it all wrong. I used to train all of my body 4 times a week, I'll start your way straight away, hopefully with results this time !

Thanks mate, nice to know there are still some helpful people out there.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 01 August 2003 13:32
Quality post cashman your knowledge should be the building blocks for all novices like myself. Gives us ur opinion I have been training now for over a year but bodybuilding for the last 2-3 months. I want to share what i'm doing and tell me if i'm on the right track.

Training - 5 days a week (Mon Back/Bi's)(Tue Delts/Traps)(Wed off)(Thu legs)(Fri Chest/Tri's)(Sat Cardio)(Sun off)

Supplements - Reflex Instant whey 6 times a day(am i taking it too much? Morning,mid morning,lunch,pre & post work out and bedtime. I take creatine 10g a day, multi vits,cod liver tabs & vit C. I have been advised to start Glutamine tabs as well??

Food - I have always been a big eater and love my grub. I eat healthy with plenty of variation. I have the odd bad day but on the whole my diet is 1000 times better than what it was 2 yrs ago. I love pasta i cant get enough but i think this is my down fall cause my carb intake is higher than what i use(burn off)....well so i have been told. I seldom drink alcohol, maybe twice a month if i'm lucky.

I've seen some incouraging developments over the last few months but my stomach is not reducing as much as i would like. The belly and love handles are hard to shift(near impossible). i've been told its the last thing to come off when it comes to ur weight...is this true?

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 01 August 2003 13:58
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Quality post cashman your knowledge should be the building blocks for all novices like myself. Gives us ur opinion I have been training now for over a year but bodybuilding for the last 2-3 months. I want to share what i'm doing and tell me if i'm on the right track.

Training - 5 days a week (Mon Back/Bi's)(Tue Delts/Traps)(Wed off)(Thu legs)(Fri Chest/Tri's)(Sat Cardio)(Sun off)

Supplements - Reflex Instant whey 6 times a day(am i taking it too much? Morning,mid morning,lunch,pre & post work out and bedtime. I take creatine 10g a day, multi vits,cod liver tabs & vit C. I have been advised to start Glutamine tabs as well??

Food - I have always been a big eater and love my grub. I eat healthy with plenty of variation. I have the odd bad day but on the whole my diet is 1000 times better than what it was 2 yrs ago. I love pasta i cant get enough but i think this is my down fall cause my carb intake is higher than what i use(burn off)....well so i have been told. I seldom drink alcohol, maybe twice a month if i'm lucky.

I've seen some incouraging developments over the last few months but my stomach is not reducing as much as i would like. The belly and love handles are hard to shift(near impossible). i've been told its the last thing to come off when it comes to ur weight...is this true?



OK. here's my opinion:
1. I'd need a specific breakdown of exercises and sets/reps to comment on the routine you do, though I'd be inclined to move traps just that bit further away from back if you are deadlifting (as you should be)

2. Personally I'm not much for glutamine though some swear by it. I'll leave that one up to you and see how your body responds. As for the whey... whey in water when you wake up. Whey in water immediately after ytou train. Whey in water before cardio. This is because your body processes whey protein very quickly. If you are insistent on protein shakes at other times of the day then you should at least have whey in milk with a little flax oil to slow gastric emptying and absorption. Ideally try a casein protein which is much slower digesting for your bedtime shake especially. Try and get as much protein from clean foods where possible, especially if you are bulking.

3. It tends to be much easier for people to bulk (i.e put on lean mass) then cut as opposed to doing both together. Throwing in a little regular cardio first thing in the mornings will help keep the fat under control (my problem also when bulking) while you are eating big to get big. Try this before easing up on the carbs, but also try to ensure you are eating complex carbs (wholegrains) and easing up on the simple carbs (starch - pasta[}:)]) though a simple carb hit is excellent for post workout recovery so worth having within 30 mins of finishing training.

4. first place you put fat on tends to be the last area that comes off. Put the muscle on first and try not to woprry too much about a couple of Ibs of fat in the process. When you get the muscle mass you want then we can talk about cutting.

Hope that helps.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 06 August 2003 18:14
i am a newbie at bbing as well and someone over here pointed me out to your group. i liked most of the stuff you have said over here. there is one problem regarding protein. I suffer from irritable bowel syndrome (ibs) which is majorly triggered off when I have protein rich substances. my body type is slim and slender. what diet should I follow?

Eating fruits and vegetables is what alleviate the symptoms of IBS. However is it advisable for a wannabe Mr. Universe to have this kind of diet? :)

Regards,
The Weakling..

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 11 August 2003 15:39
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Originally posted by 98_pound_weakling

i am a newbie at bbing as well and someone over here pointed me out to your group. i liked most of the stuff you have said over here. there is one problem regarding protein. I suffer from irritable bowel syndrome (ibs) which is majorly triggered off when I have protein rich substances. my body type is slim and slender. what diet should I follow?

Eating fruits and vegetables is what alleviate the symptoms of IBS. However is it advisable for a wannabe Mr. Universe to have this kind of diet? :)

Regards,
The Weakling..




TBH I couldn't tell you. You'd really need to be talking to a qualified dietician. Post your question in the diet forum and you'll get excellent advice on your specific needs. You could try mailing James or The Doctor who are VERY knowledgeable in these areas.

Hope that helps and good luck.

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 14 August 2003 17:18
Being new to all this, how often should you change routines? Is it just an ongoing process to see what works best for your own body?

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RE: Bodybuilding for the Beginner! - 15 August 2003 14:09
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Being new to all this, how often should you change routines? Is it just an ongoing process to see what works best for your own body?



Usually every 6-8 weeks and usually change a few exercises around.

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