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2008/07/11 00:07:31 (permalink)

New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle

hi,
im 19, 9st6, 5ft10 and i just started a 6 week sus cycle.

was training for about 6 months with very little results so here i am.

i had my first jab monday given to me buy a friend (im s**t scared of needles) and i started to feel more energetic in less that 24 hours. just took my second needle myself shaking all over the place when it was inside. seemed to go in okay but when i took it out there was a few drops of blood. is this normal?
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    kevo101
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 00:12:52 (permalink)
    if the blood came from the needle hole then yes.
    but dude what are you doing running gear at 19 and only after 6 months of trainning.
    if your not getting results i will bet my left bolock its down to your diet and trainning not been right.
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 00:13:13 (permalink)
    well done on doing your first self injection. most of us were shaking a bit or sweating a bit mate so nothing unusual there!

    the blood just means that you pushed the needle through a vein on the way in, i assume you aspirated? (pulled the plunger back and got bubbles to confirm you were not in a vein before you injected the gear)?

    6 weeks of sust is honestly not really enough - it will take 3 weeks for the sustanon levels to build up to the normal baseline level, sust is normally run for 8-10 weeks mate so if you can get another 2 or 4 amps you will really notice the difference.

    also have you got your pct (post cycle therapy) meds in? do you know about gyno?

    if not, just ask and we'll guide you. also expect a few flames from people who think that you have not waited long enough before taking gear. 6 months trianing is not a long time before steroid use but you've started not so IMHO we should help and assist you, and we will certianly do that

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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 00:14:01 (permalink)
    well done on doing your first self injection. most of us were shaking a bit or sweating a bit mate so nothing unusual there!

    the blood just means that you pushed the needle through a vein on the way in, i assume you aspirated? (pulled the plunger back and got bubbles to confirm you were not in a vein before you injected the gear)?

    6 weeks of sust is honestly not really enough - it will take 3 weeks for the sustanon levels to build up to the normal baseline level, sust is normally run for 8-10 weeks mate so if you can get another 2 or 4 amps you will really notice the difference.

    also have you got your pct (post cycle therapy) meds in? do you know about gyno?

    if not, just ask and we'll guide you. also expect a few flames from people who think that you have not waited long enough before taking gear. 6 months trianing is not a long time before steroid use but you've started not so IMHO we should help and assist you, and we will certianly do that

    welcome to muscle talk

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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 00:24:29 (permalink)
    ye it is a short period of time but i'm just gettin annoyed at seeing hardly any results.

    i tried to aspirate but i was doing my right arm (the opposite arm from my last injection) and as im right handed this was not very easy and to add on to that i was shaking quite a bit and this just felt weird in my arm (not helpful when your scared of needles) so i just went for it and hoped for the best.

    yes i am going to get some PCT med not sure which one tho. i have a friend that uses gear a lot so he is sorting it out for me

    Also the place that he goes to get them only sells in 6 week courses
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 00:27:39 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: kevo101

    if the blood came from the needle hole then yes.
    but dude what are you doing running gear at 19 and only after 6 months of trainning.
    if your not getting results i will bet my left bolock its down to your diet and trainning not been right.


    I have had all the diet info off my friend (who uses them and has also got pretty big) and i usually train with him so...
    Hopefully i will get some results
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 00:29:20 (permalink)
    you can inject into your pec mate, it's easier and you can see what you are doing better


    pct for your first cycle will be nolvadex/tamoxifen only.

    with sustanon pct is 3 weeks after your last injection (normally people take an oral steroid during these 3 weeks, stops you getting bored like, lol)

    pct day 1 = 60mg nolvadex
    pct day 2-11 = 40mg nolvadex
    pct day 12-21 = 20mg nolvadex

    you should also have some nolvadex on hand incase you get some gyno, breast growth.

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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 00:37:36 (permalink)
    pec??? ive never heard of that

    where about... think i will need 2 get mine a bit bigger first anyway lol
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 00:49:55 (permalink)
    I wouldnt jab in my arm You need to jab in your glutes ( back side ) its alot easier and safer less veins. Also make sure you inject very deep into the muscle this will help you not getting a abcess.

    And as mentioned 6 weeks isnt long enough to run a cycle you will only just be starting to feel the effects after 6 weeks. You need to run it for 12 weeks.

    Make sure you are training very hard and getting plenty of protein into you. after you have finished your cycle wait 21 days before you start your PCT

    Your PCT should consist of Clomid and Nolva

    you run it like this

    Day 1 Clomid 200 mg and Nolva 60 mg

    Days 2 - 7 Clomid 150 mg and Nolva 40 mg

    Days 8 - 14 Clomid 100 mg and Nolva 20 mg

    Days 15 - 22 Clomid 50 mg and Nolva 20 mg

    Days 23 - 30 Nolva 20 mg

    Also you need some Nolva just in case you start to get any gyno.

    Hope this helps you
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 08:26:36 (permalink)
    Matty it is quite early to jump into a cycle at your age and with your experience, but i did the same mate
    Fill ya boots!! Sus is a lovely compound i know that youve bought a 6 week course but you will love the
    results so much that you will want to stay on anyway, imo 12 weeks on sus at 500mg pw will blow ya socks off
    Remember (PROTEIN + CARBS) Mass buildin shakes if your looking for size is big must have.
    If your diet and training is nailed YOU WILL put on 1 and a half stone, enjoy

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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 10:06:36 (permalink)
    there's no point in telling you you've jumped the gun or your too young, because its obiviously too late for that. as mentioned above mate 6 weeks is far too short, i'm currently running sust and tri-tren. i've done sust a few times and the results have always been spot on. get onto the diet and nutrition forum mate for help with your diet....and best of luck. keep us posted on your progress.
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 10:45:48 (permalink)
    ye i think i will get another course and stay on it.

    i will look into the nutrition forum to see what im eating and how i can take on more protein and carbs.

    ive now got a dead arm like my first injection lol
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 11:46:04 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: matty22

    hi,
    im 19, 9st6, 5ft10 and i just started a 6 week sus cycle.

    was training for about 6 months with very little results so here i am.

    i had my first jab monday given to me buy a friend (im s**t scared of needles) and i started to feel more energetic in less that 24 hours. just took my second needle myself shaking all over the place when it was inside. seemed to go in okay but when i took it out there was a few drops of blood. is this normal?


    19...... 9 stone 6 and 5'10!!!!!!!!!!! mate.... stop jabbing, run PCT and sort your diet out.

    can't believe people advise you to continue.... give yourself a good 2 years of hard training and a solid diet and then consider it.

    it is your life though, do what you wish but i honestly feel you will regret it in a few years time.


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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 12:24:31 (permalink)
    Sorry to be a bit of a bore but I must agree with Little Big Horse, I am not saying you wont gain (infact I would be surprised if you didnt) but I dont think your diet can really be up to much if you're 9st6!!

    Post your daily diet mate so that people can help with that aspect, if your diet isnt great then you are putting your body under duress whilst not utilising the steroid to its full potential.

    I do hope it all goes well though and please post any questions/fears on the forum as although people may not agree with your method, they will always assist where possible.

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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 22:58:02 (permalink)
    ye i basically eat protein and carbs when i can but the minumum i eat is:

    Breakfast: cerial, followed by pasta & a filled chicken butty or somthin like it

    Dinner: 3 large jacket potatoes filled with cheese and maybe an omlette if i have time

    Tea: chicken, steak, omlette of something simalar with chips or jacket potatoes and maybe a few eggs on there.

    all of them meals are fairley large (i mean a heaped plate)

    havnt yet thought about drinks yet tho.

    Just to mention i am already seeing results in my arms, pecs, and lats but really good in my arms. i think that is pretty good after 4 days?
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 23:49:43 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: matty22

    ye i basically eat protein and carbs when i can but the minumum i eat is:

    Breakfast: cerial, followed by pasta & a filled chicken butty or somthin like it

    Dinner: 3 large jacket potatoes filled with cheese and maybe an omlette if i have time

    Tea: chicken, steak, omlette of something simalar with chips or jacket potatoes and maybe a few eggs on there.

    all of them meals are fairley large (i mean a heaped plate)

    havnt yet thought about drinks yet tho.

    Just to mention i am already seeing results in my arms, pecs, and lats but really good in my arms. i think that is pretty good after 4 days?


    i doubt you diet has been anything like the above for the past 6 months and still needs improvement but Diet forum will help you there.

    after 4 days results in you arms, pecs and lats will be water retention

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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 23:53:27 (permalink)
    ye i agree it aint been like that for the past six months but i have tried to take the protien and carbs in in that time but since i have came on the juice i have been eating like i said.
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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 23:58:26 (permalink)
    ok.... can see you have your mind set on this cycle and chucking a few eggs in here and there.

    people want the big results with minimal effort these days

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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/11 23:58:28 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: matty22

    ye i basically eat protein and carbs when i can but the minumum i eat is:

    Breakfast: cerial, followed by pasta & a filled chicken butty or somthin like it

    Dinner: 3 large jacket potatoes filled with cheese and maybe an omlette if i have time

    Tea: chicken, steak, omlette of something simalar with chips or jacket potatoes and maybe a few eggs on there.

    all of them meals are fairley large (i mean a heaped plate)

    havnt yet thought about drinks yet tho.

    Just to mention i am already seeing results in my arms, pecs, and lats but really good in my arms. i think that is pretty good after 4 days?



    Mate sorry but you are seeing nothing after 4days ,it doesnt work like that I'm afraid.

    Some people will flame you mate and some people will say wll go on cause you have started but really mate if you have only done 2 jabs I would stop,I was going to start after 6months and everyone on here pointed me to the diet forum and training forum,I still did start too early after 18months and I wish I didnt then but I was also 31.

    I dont know you and you have no reason to listen to me or anyone else here but gear at this stage is not the answer,you'll gain alot of weight,alot of it water and on that diet even with good training I think you will lose most of it then be stuck in a circle.

    Get some whey powder,revise your diet and/or training and just wait mate! I hope you listen ,whatever you decide good luck.




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    RE: New 6 week sustanon 250 cycle 2008/07/12 00:00:35 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: matty22

    Also the place that he goes to get them only sells in 6 week courses


    Also mate,you dont buy courses
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