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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 03 October 2008 22:43
cheers LMC!! maybe my 180k is a bit to far away, even in 12 months, but i wanna set it quite high.. we'll see tho.. i think by the end of this epi/ pplex+tren x cycle my  bench may have increased say another 10k.. for the same reps.. we'll see!! ialways progress well on bench when usin DS's..
the racks are on large deadliftin/ weight lifting platofrms if u know wat i mean so they do them  bang on where i would be squattin.. they were in again tonight, cant be much older than 15-16.. good t see younger kids trainin and doin in properly, but when on their own they just take so long and sit down for like 10 mins between each set!!
yeah this cycle is gonna be epi and MTRN for about 4-5 wk, then straight onto either- SD+t roid or p-plex and t roid for another 4 wk..
money's a bit tight obviously bein back at uni so havin t cut back on length of use wi the epi.. although i may just buy another bottle epi and run for 6 wk and leave it there!!
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 03 October 2008 23:06
just buy yourself some proper gear ffs instead of that overpriced DS stuff lol

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 03 October 2008 23:08
haha.. i know ur right mate!!
things is.. if i was just doin a simple 4 wk superdrol course it would be pretty cheap.. but cos im experimenting and stacking it is actually costin as much as a 10 wk test cycle would cost.. :-( does that make me stupid??!! haha


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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 03 October 2008 23:17
mrmmonster


haha.. i know ur right mate!!
things is.. if i was just doin a simple 4 wk superdrol course it would be pretty cheap.. but cos im experimenting and stacking it is actually costin as much as a 10 wk test cycle would cost.. :-( does that make me stupid??!! haha


yes it does ;)

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 12:08
The good thing I suppose is seeing how you react to a course of orals.
Next step a cycle of injectables.
Then, a combination of the two and you're already fully aware how you'll react to all the compounds so they'll be no nasty surprises.

If you started looking at how much gear, food, supplements, everything else that goes into training costs you'd probably give it all up and take up a cheaper pursuit like chess or I-Spy

I'm a little bitter on the cost of "accessories" at the moment because I've just had two invoices for customs charges which suddenly make what was relatively cheap from the states now much more expensive. Bastards!!!
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 12:36
u had invoices from customs??
can u elaborate or not? i understand if not!!
i know what u mean.. and i 100% want t get on an injectable cycle mate, its just circumstances at the mo which are stopping me from doin one!
but yeah, it is a pretty epensive hobby when u begin to start to further experiment with 'supplements'..
i know i react well to these orals, and when doin a simple cycle..i.e. a 3-4 wk SD cycle it is v cheap, and imo worth it!!
im kinda thinkin i may just do another SD cycle after my Epi runs out.. SD never fails u :-)

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 12:51
There's a couple of US web-sites I get supplements/DS from and even though one of them noted on the package that the value was around $30, I still got an additional customs charge.

Basically, the freight carrier (Fed Ex in this case) delivers the stuff but then sends a bill later.
The latest package though is sat at the post office awaiting payment before they release it, and I kind of need it for Monday!!

I think it still works out cheaper than buyinf from the UK, and if the US economy goes into free fall and the dollar worsens, it would be even cheaper!!!
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 13:09
well yeah ur right... things like epi etc are around $30 in the u.s. i suppose doin a bulk order could come in fairly cheap! im not clued up on the customs charges..
what would u be lookin at for a package around $100??
may check out a few u.s sites and look into gettin some stuff from there.

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 13:10
actually i dont know many decent u.s sites!!
u reccomend any LMC?

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 16:35
i see PH's as dry humping.... you know what you really want to do and go through the motions as you normally would do but it just doesnt give the same results lol
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 16:38
To be honest IB I saw no discernible difference between Dbol and SD. Both resulted in similar gains and similar (nasty) sides.

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 16:51
SD is by all accounts a steroid... the reason it was banned, it was very effective in mimicking AAS
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 17:08
i know wat u mean IB!
but as for now its all i know.. i mean. ive never done an injectable..
suppose u could look at it like htis!
like when u pass ur CBT is it? for motor nikes! u can only ride a 125 or somethin like that for a yr, then move up etc etc.. i started on SD when i was 21 t kinda get my feet wet, and seein as my current situation wont really allow me t use injectables, and cos i know DS's work for me, ive carried on..
totally see ur poiint tho!
but yeah SD must be classed as a steroid.
13lbs in 3 wk i gained on first cycle!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 20:38
forgive me father... for i have sinned!!!!

tonight, i crossed the line........














into the golden arches!!!! :-(


it feels so good hto!! i had one of those new M burgers which was v tasty, wi large fries and a large diet coke.. also had 3 chicken dipper things and then half a kitkat mcflurry!!feel v stisfied now but i know it wont last .. :-(
i never go to Mcdonalds so i supose its ok to do once this yr!! :-)

anyway today has been a good day wi food.. eaten v v clean, and fairly low carb as i was gonna have a low day today.. but decided to go all out tonight!! could have eaten more but i would be beatin myself up so much tonight and tomorro about it!!
tomorro is legs and biceps day so fingers crossed ill get t use the rack again and get some squattin done!!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 20:56
people laugh when you order a diet coke with junk food but they forget its a taste thing! i cant stand the taste of full fat coke

dont have a zero/low day after a binge day...asking for trouble
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 21:42
IB i noticed that too can u elaborate why not? is it because of the metabolism increase?
i live around clowns and ppl with no testosterone

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 04 October 2008 22:29
no i know.. im gonna have a good high carb day tomorro but im gonna work my ass off in the gym too!!

luckily the guy at the counter seemed to begay, and i think he maybe fancied me a little so he dinbt bother bein funny about my 'diet' order..

i agree tho IB.. idont like normal coke!! and not many like diet but i much prefer diet coke!!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 05 October 2008 16:02
well ive just placed another order with Ian.
have ordered a bottle of tren x and one more bottle of epi.

have changed what i propsed to start with.
will look like

epi wks 1-6
MTRN wks 1-4
Tren x wks 4-8.

hopefully should be good!!

wil then do nothin til maybe february, and im goin t try that decabolan from ians shop. the Superdrol, PPlex and Hdrol all in one compound! will run that for 4 wk while at a slight calore deficit. should help me hold onto some mass while reducin cals and tryin t slowly but surely drop some BF.. that will kick start my cut which i plan to do until i feel good about it! no goals for it yet, not gonna say im gonna get t 'x' amount of weight or 'x' amount bf%... think im gonna try get comp ready.. see what it takes!! :-)

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 05 October 2008 17:57
no gym today!
gonna do legs and bis tomorro!
hopefully squat rack will be free for me which would be v good!! for once.....

good win for the pool today too... think ill throw in a pic :-)




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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 06 October 2008 18:30
off t the gy, in half hour or so.
tonight will be
squats, front squats
SLDL's
standing calf raises
DB preacher curls
EZ reverse grip curls

should be good i hope.. had a sh*tty few days so hopin i get get my head out my arrrse and have a good session!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 06 October 2008 20:22
my weight at the moment is probably hovering around 16.5 stone mate.. maybe (i hope) a little more.. maybe around 16 st 8-9 lbs, at 6"2.. so i still have plenty more growin to do! i hope! haha

cheers fella!!

today-

Squats-
160k x 4
130k x 9
Front squat-
20 rep set x 60k..- ouch!!!!!

SLDL's-
90k x 10 - lower back pumped to f*ck at this point.. had a good few warm up sets tho so hammies felt good and fried.

Stranding calf raises-
90k x lots > DC style.. ouchie McOuch!

Db preachers-
20k x 9,4,3

EZ bar curls-
50k x 11 . straight set. felt awesome

DB pinwheel curls-
24k x 9, dropset, 16k x 7

good session. body feels good although lower back is pumped no end!!!
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 06 October 2008 21:15
Nice squats mate, what are those DB pinwheel curls?


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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 06 October 2008 21:44
they are hammer curls really. but when u curl them across ur body.. not like a regular hammer curl when u curl it in front of u. check em out on youtube.. much prefer these to normal hammer curls, but i do both of them out of 2 of my 3 upper bosy sessions so i get all bases covered! :-)

squats felt ok.. little twingy in the knee but aint squatted for around 2 wk so im happy wi 160 x 4... give it another few weeks if i can get some solid consistency back into th squattin regime and that should be goin up hopefully!!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 06 October 2008 21:54
I see now, checked youtube for the pinwheel curls, there pretty much how i do them actually, didnt know they were called that though.

I take it the "scrotes" wern't occupying the squat rack again then


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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 06 October 2008 22:04
they were there but only two of them.. the girls werent there who usually train with them so there was a free side to the rack.. but it was the one which is not in the mirror!! :-( i preffer to squat in the mirror to check my form etc! ah well...

anyway.. gonna call it an early night.. gonna chill wi some food nd a film..

chat tomorro fella!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 06 October 2008 23:22
140kg bench for reps? You beastface! I did 150kg... but was a machine, and only for 1 rep lol.
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 07 October 2008 12:43
cheers mate!!
haha.., stick with the bench press mate!
although if it seems like decent substitute now and again go for it!

not sure what 150k on amachine would equate to on bench.. its wierd.. good lifitn tho fella. ur weights have stayed consistent since startin pct so all must be good!
t roid and the other bottle of epi arrived today :-) gonna start th t roid tomorro..
will be 50mg epi ed, 90mg t roid ed and 6mg MTRN pre wokrout on trainin days.
cant wait!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 07 October 2008 13:20
50mg of Epi! have you not felt much on the lower doses?


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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 07 October 2008 13:42
40 felt good.. but i reckon i can get more out of it t be honest mate..
plus i have one more full bottle left, so runnin it at 50 mg with hat i have left of the other, should run me around 20 days ish, which would be around 6 wk overall for the epi.. :-)

lookin forward to seein what the t roid has to offer!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 08 October 2008 19:23
ok so tonights session-
trained at uni today! such a sh*te gym!!!!

bench-
140k x 5,3,2 <--- up to 145k next session

standing DB press- v p*st off. the uni gym has had 3 or 4 Db's broken and havent bothered to fix them yet, so there is 1 34k DB,1 32k Db and 1 30k DB.. so i had t use the 28's which were too light so i went for higher reps.
28k x 12,6,5,3 - added an extra set..

Dips-
BW +40k x 12,5,3 <--- too light. felt good on these tho!!

DB lateral raise-
16k x 12

BB rows-
115 x 6,5, reverse grip 100k x 8

CG pull downs-
95k x 8,5,3 <--- felt good. will up weight next time.

Face pulls-
45k x 13,6

Cable rear laterals-
10k x 10

decent session. bench was good, but most other things after were a bit light!! was teachin my mate the new routine so concentratin wasnt 100% on my game!!
things are feelin good tho.
 started the tren x today, 90mg a day, epi @ 50mg a day and MTRN @ 6mg pre workout


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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 08 October 2008 20:10
be nice to see how you get on with the tren x stacked with the epi mate should be good.


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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 08 October 2008 21:38
yeah lookin forward to it kickin mate.. strength has already gone up nicely off the other 2 compounds in the 3 wks ive run them so lookin forward to what the next 4 wks has t offer with the tren x involved too!

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 10 October 2008 12:56
todays session will be-
front squats
leg press
ham curls
pull throughs
calf raises
incline db curls
ez bar curls
hammers or reverse grip curls

trainin at the uni gym today so fingers crossed the 1 squat rack they have will be free.
head is still up my arse a bit but trainin seems to have been ok while my head has been firmly shoved up my rectum!! hopefully this will continue....

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 10 October 2008 14:18
Maybe its the smell that inspires you to workout harder?

20 reps again for front squat?
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 10 October 2008 14:28
no mate.
front squats will be done like-
2-4 reps
6-8 reps
followed by a 20 rep leg press set
i rotate which i do the 20 reppers on every wk,same wi the heavy sets too

haha.. sounds proper cheesy and 'profound', but the gym just kinda helps me forget everythin else!! whack on my music and just in the zone for an hour or so.

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 10 October 2008 16:56
ok..
front squat- 110k x4, 100k x7 - felt good on these.. will get 115 for 4 i reckon next time quite easy. just had trouble with keepin the weight on my front delts.
leg press 20 repper- 120k

seated ham curl
- 65k x 8,5,3
pull throughs- stack x 11
*** need t get used to the pullthroughs i think. need tofind ideal feet position etc. but can def see them bein useful.

smith standing calf raises
- 60k x 11, 6
held the stretches at the bottom for ages, these felt v good. calves were screamin at me!!

DB curls- 24k x 8,4,4
straight bar curls - 40k x 9
hammers- 22k x 9 + 5 (both db's together for last set, poor form, just t beat the crap out my arms)
** had t go lighter with the bicep routine as the DB's still havent been fixed and it was definately bicep boy day at the uni gym.
im gonna try not t train there as much as poss cos it really is goin down the sh*tter!! theyre spendin around 50 mil on a brand new gym/pool/ development centre in the car park of the uni now tho which wont be ready til 2010.. when i graduate ...:-(
decent session tho.. PB on the front squats.

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 10 October 2008 20:09
If you havn't, try having a wider stance like a sumo deadlift on the pullthroughs.
 
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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 10 October 2008 20:57
agree with iaink .. wide stance on pull throughs is need.  Good effort on the front squats

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 10 October 2008 21:21
mrmmonster


no mate.
front squats will be done like-
2-4 reps
6-8 reps
followed by a 20 rep leg press set
i rotate which i do the 20 reppers on every wk,same wi the heavy sets too

haha.. sounds proper cheesy and 'profound', but the gym just kinda helps me forget everythin else!! whack on my music and just in the zone for an hour or so.


Hi mate, things seem to be going well. Im like this when im in the gym, "in the zone lol", as are a lot of other people i expect. Its nice to get away from the crap sometimes and punish yourself lol.

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Re:Makin Moves The MAX-OT Way... Pics page 1 - 11 October 2008 10:29
cheers gents..
yeah i think with the pullthroughs it will take a couple of bashes before the form is nailed. stanmce was fairly wide but yeah i could go wider like sumo stance!
i seemed to be leanin quite a lot into it too. i.e. leanin away from the stack.. even when stood up?? we'll see, i'll have a play around with stances etc..
cheers again guys!
yeah front squats felt good. should be up in weight next time which is good.

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