Just ordered my next cycle :)

So pleased, have been back in the gym for 6 months due to circumstances beyond my controol and have just ordered my next cycle which will be.........

Week  Compound     Dose
1-3     Superdrol     (20mg)
1-5     P-plex          (20mg)
4-10     Epi              (20mg4-5), (40mg 6-10)

Liver support run throughout, I will run a-dex 0.5 eod weeks 1-5 to keep bloat to a minimum. Running a nolva pct and have a shed load on hand just in case.  PCT I will add cissus-drol, cee and x-lean and up the calories. I'm going to be doing early morning cardio to keep fat down eith a 4 or 5 day split (unsure yet) eat eat eat and eat then see where it gets me.

ATM:

6ft, 14st 5lb don't know my body fat but I've always been fairly lean.

I'll keep an update once I start next week and i'll try and get the lovely Mrs OokAak to take some pics before and after.

That is a hardcore cycle mate.   I, personally wouldn't run the SD and PP at the same time, 

I would do:

1-3 SD
3-8 PP
4-10 Epi

But that is just my personal preferance.   

Good luck though!   

You should keep a journal.

Oh btw, where does your username originate from?   

Ha bit embarrassing really, when i was born I was given a monkey teddy and was obsessed by monkeys until I was like 8 or 9

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Ha bit embarrassing really, when i was born I was given a monkey teddy and was obsessed by monkeys until I was like 8 or 9

LOL

Told you it was embarrassing!!

Not that bad!  I thought you might be a SAFFA.  Cause it means: oh sh1t in afrikaans.

Ah thats a far better story than the truth!!

Ok an update.

Its been a week.....

Weight:
I started around 14st 3-4lbs now about 14st 12lb. A noticable difference!! 9 weeks to go!!

Strength:
SHOT up!!! added approx 15kgs to my bench. weights feel much easier.

Sides:
Back pumps but not to bad. feel a little lathargic but I knew i would.

Overall:
Great 1st week diet has been strict i've been eating 6-7 times a day always healthy and clean. I'm using bulk unflavored protein, oats twice a day with 2 peices of fruit a handfull of nuts and a peice of root veg. PWO protein and waxy maze starch. lunch 200grams of meat and some salad and some complex carbs. traditional  dinner (shepards pie, spag bog, chicken & mash). Breakfast wheetabix. Training has been good although my normal split was broken up by a business trip but got a good 5 gym sessions in. I have been this weight before with a lower bodyfat but I thionk by the end of the nine weeks i should be in a position to be at a similar bodyfat but at a higher weight.

I agree with INLT that cycle is abit mad imo. Absolutely no need to do all 3 in one cycle imo, pick two and plan a good solid cycle.

EDIT - just recognised this threads abit old lol what cycle are you on mate?

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Bench up 15kg in one week of SD? As well as your cycle what dosages your running them at mate, thanks.

Muscle Finesse & Maximuscle Board Rep

Week  Compound     Dose
1-3     Superdrol     (20mg)
1-5     P-plex          (20mg)
4-10     Epi              (20mg4-5), (40mg 6-10)

*I have lifted  the increased weight before in the past but the monday i started to yesterday there was a 15kg increase so pretty pleased.

Thats a heavy cycle good luck.

Nice increase in 1 week!!! lol

Im going to start a SD/tren clone in a month or so.

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lol i was gonna add in a tren clone weeks 6-10 but decided enough was enough :) although in terms of a  complete cycle it would make sense.

You say its heavy but no heavier than a normal d-bol protocol although the length is a little on the long side and i will see how mu#y body feels at week 6 no reason if the sides get a bit harsh or i feel i should stop that i can't jump straight into PCT.

Would like to know how you get on with the tren as its something i would really like to try

Yeah you could of ran two meths out of sd/p/epi and tren which is a non meth so doesnt bash the liver at all or no where near as much as meths.

Im going to log my SD/tren 3 week cycle mate.

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Update.....

Ok i've been on the cycle for 3 and a half weeks and here are my sats:

Weight: is now 15st 5lbs (started 14st 3lbs) shoulders are alot bigger haven't put on much fat at all but i should imagine there is some water weight although i've been keeping water intake high and getting pleanty of potassium. I look visably more muscular and my legs have come on alot!!

Strength: Just keeps going up, i thought i may lose some this week because of droppind SD but doesn't seem to be the case at all.

Sides: For the 1st week some liver discomfort but this went away i suspect my body had to get used to the new toxins I hacve also been using alot of liver support. I have been having terrible pains  in my shoulders which come on through out the day and if i sleep in certain positions (back pumps??).

Diet and Training: clean dietI eat a minimum of 6 times a day, protein intake is high and i've been eating plenty of fruit and veg. Training has been strict but i've listened to my body I have changed a workout slightly on some days but always make sure i put as much stress on the target areas as i can handle.

Overall: Strict diet working out very hard and plenty of rest have certainly helped. I changed my lifestyle for this cycle (no beer) or late nights and its paaying dividends. I'm going to run epi and PP for weeks 4&5 and then add in a tren clone weeks 5-12 and also have another 3 weeks of SD at the end. So cycle has become heavier but I'm certain i can reach 16st 7lbs or higher let my body settle do another bulk over the winter and hit a cut for spring I'm hoping for a very cut 15st 7lbs by spring 2010!!

will keep you posted on progress.

Nice update mate, get in some taurine for the back pumps mate.

Your cycle just got heavier, your adding SD again, too far imo mate, this is overkill.

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Actaully thinking about it you are probably right, I think I will bin off the next SD plan. This cycle is getting expensive!! My shirts won't fit around my neck anymore so i've gotta go buy a lad of new ones!!

lol ok cool mate, im glad youve decided to drop it, good choice.

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Ok week umm 7 or 8

I have been doing 40mg epi and 120mg x-tren ED for the past 2 weeks.

Weight:
16st 2lbs, my waist has increased but only by an inch so not that bothered its only 33" so won't take much to get back down.

Strength:
Has been going up through out the cycle reps have increased and the weight has dramatically increased so very pleased.

Sides:
Since I stopped the PP the back pumps have gone and the water weight has now done. I really stepped up the water and hit the potassium hard so got rid of it fairly quick. Weight dropped the 1st week i stopped (due to water) but has since gone back up. Accusatuions this has been a bit of a problem but I was expecing it to be fair, and the old I'm on the protein shakes and cratein seems to satisfy most.

Overall:
Very happy with the size increase and definition as well as the strength increase. I am going to add superdrol for the next 3 weeks and try and get over 16st 7lbs hopefully nearer the 17st mark. Then pct (Nolva) with cissus ran double dosed with and cratein and a few other anti catabolics.


Next plan:
Another lean bulk over the wineter period but shorter to tip me over 17stone, Then an Anavar cycle @ either 100mg ED or 120mg ED to cut,  from experience i'd say i have about a stone of fat to cut off which to be fair is a peice of pi55, so after next spring should be where i planned.

SSSHHHEEEEETTTT those are some massive gains there mate, thats a massive cycle aswell but anyway congrats

Pics?

"Why Climb a Mountain, when you can become one..."

Probably one of the biggest gains I have heard (read) of.

Hello, thought I would update on they cycle as it was finished early August and I have had PCT and 2 months off. My current weight is 15st 7lbs (weighed today). My training has slipped due to work commitments over the last 6 weeks but I have managed to keep a fair amout of size so over all very happy.

Review:

Strength: Very good, gained alot of strength

Size: Very good, gained alot of size at my heaviest I was over 16st

Sides: In the end pretty bad, Had the worst back pumps to the point I couldn't sleep. In the mornings my urine was pretty dark. Some nipple irritation but didn't develop into gyno but this was more luck than anything. I was sweating like mad by the end. I'm balding anyway but seemed to speed up after the cycle.

Diet: I ate religiously 6-8 times a day. It became a running joke at work that I was never seen without chewing. I kept my 3 main meals as they were, but just added more protein into the lunch time meal. I did however have between breakfast and lunch 150ml of protein with 50ml of oats and an apple a banana a handfull of nuts some grapes and a peice of veg. between lunch and dinner the same. A snack before the gym and a pwo shake after with 150 ml of protein and 50ml of wax maze starch.

I measure my powders by the ml markings on my shaker for ease of use.

Overall:
SD and p-plex gave crazy gains then the epi and tren helped remove bloat and helped condition no end. But the cycle was to long!! Very happy although probably will be running shorter less harsh cycles in the future as I can gaurantee doing this a few times will do some damage.

Next Cycle: sd and p-plex 6 weeks to hit 17 stone pct recovery time off then repeat sd and p-plex. Then a conditioning cycle probably anavar @ 100-120mg ED fo 12-14 weeks.

NOTE: Be prepared to have to spend a fortune on new suites and shirts!!!