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Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 15:47 (permalink)
Hi all. I ordered Melanotan II on Wednesday night and it came this morning. I ordered the Pre Mix 20ml version - My question is - do I just stick the needle in the vial and inject myself or do I need to mix it? Sorry stupid question but both vials have Powder marked on them.

Also, what needles should I order? I ordered  Terumo Syringe 1ml Insulin (U100) with 27g x 0.5" needle. Is this alright?

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    Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 15:51 (permalink)
    Never heard of pre-mixed. I wouldn't be keen on that tbh.

    Anyway, if it's pre-mixed then why would you need to mix it again? It is already a solution isn't it?

    So you have 20ml of water right? How much melanotan II does that contain?


     

     
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      Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 15:54 (permalink)
      Not too sure mate. It just offered Pre Mixed or not mixed. just said 20ml.
       
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        Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 16:01 (permalink)
        20ml is a measure of volume, not how much drug is contained within.

        A can of pop is 330ml (volume). Say for example sugar is a drug. They could put 1 teaspoon (approx 5grams) of sugar in that can, or they could put 20 teaspoons of sugar in (approx 100grams). Do you see the problem?

        Just knowing how much volume means nothing unless you know the concentration of the solution. ie How much drug is contained in that solution

        You absolutely cannot start injecting something when you have no idea how much drug that would be

         

         
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          Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 16:10 (permalink)
          I have emailed the supplier I bought it from as it didn't say on the website.
           
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            Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 16:13 (permalink)
            It says on the instructions that I should inject 0.2ml a day for the loading phase. that's all the info I have. I knew I shouldn't have trusted my mate and I should have bought the unmixed one.
             
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              Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 16:16 (permalink)
              buckeejit


              It says on the instructions that I should inject 0.2ml a day for the loading phase.


              Ignore this. Find out for yourself how much drug each ml or fraction of a ml (0.2ml or whatever) contains.

              It's like getting a load of steroid pills and someone saying "take 5 a day". Without knowing how much steroid each pill contains, you're dicing with danger.


               

               
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                Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 16:18 (permalink)
                I've emailed the supplier to ask them.
                 
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                  Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 16:18 (permalink)
                  As above only shoot once you know the exact dose you have otherwise you will be in trouble i once shot 5mg in one go by mistake and let me tell you now its not something i would ever want to repeat..........

                  In future buy it yourself and mix have not heard thebest reports about quality of premix

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                    Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 19:53 (permalink)
                    re: the syringes I bought - will Terumo Syringe 1ml Insulin (U100) with 27g x 0.5" needle be alright?
                     
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                      Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 20:04 (permalink)
                      29g or 30g is preferable ... but 27g will do the job too
                       
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                        Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 10 July 2009 20:11 (permalink)
                        great mate, cheers.
                         
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                          Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 13 July 2009 11:44 (permalink)
                          got an email from the supplier:

                          ok, I got an email from the supplier:

                          Each vial contains 10mg of powder mixed with 1ml of bacteriostatic water. this will give you 10 individual injections marked 10 on the needle.

                          does this seem ok?

                           
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                            Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 13 July 2009 12:08 (permalink)
                            Right so you have a vial or syringe with 1ml of water. This contains 10milligrams of MT2. That's fine. Better if it were mixed with more water, but not a big issue.

                            If you have not read through my article already: http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-melanotan.aspx

                            I suggest new users start with 0.25mg of MT2. If you were to continue with this dose unaltered, your 10mg of MT2 would last you 40 injections.


                            So 1ml = 10mg of MT2.
                            Therefore 0.1ml water = 1mg of MT2

                            I believe you shot 0.2ml yesterday, which equates to 2mg of MT2. This is 8 times the amount I suggest for a new user, and TWICE the amount I consider necessary for an experienced user that has built up the dosage over time.

                            Steps you need to take:

                            1) Read my article
                            2) If you don't understand it, read it again
                            3) Should you still have a query or are unsure of anything, ask me.
                            4) My suggestion which you will gather from the article is 0.25mg of MT2 for a new user. This will be a VERY small amount of water since your mixture is highly concentrated. 0.25mg of MT2 will be ONE QUARTER OF 0.1ml OF WATER ie 0.025ml. You should be able to fairly accurately dose this from a 1ml syringe but ideally it would be mixed with more water so accuracy of each shot is improved (as suggested in my article. I advise mixing 10mg with 4ml of water, at least until dosages increase).

                             

                             
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                              Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 13 July 2009 12:41 (permalink)
                              thanks Partyboy. I think I was getting ml mixed up with mg. I drew melanotan upto the 20 mark on my 1ml syringe where as you said, I should be only drawing 0.25mg? So it should only be a quarter mark on my syringe? I injected 8 times the amount so this is why I felt sick?
                               
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                                Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 13 July 2009 12:49 (permalink)
                                I don't use marks. I use millilitres and fractions of a milliltre. On your syringe if you fill it it will be 1ml correct? (providing you have 1ml syringes and not 0.5ml syringes). So divide that into 10 and each 1 is 0.1ml. You will shoot this amount (0.1ml) over 4 days. So you need to divide each of these 0.1ml into 4 to get your daily dose ie one quater of 0.1ml.

                                And yes, shooting 2mg as a novice will leave you feeling as sick as a dog.
                                <message edited by PartyBoy on 13 July 2009 12:50>

                                 

                                 
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                                  Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 13 July 2009 13:29 (permalink)
                                  sorry Partyboy, I thought I understood but I don't lol. Here is a picture of my syringe (1ml)


                                  Yesterday I took 0.2ml (where arrow shows). So should I take 0.1ml? (half of the amount I took yday). would that still not be too much? Sorry but clearly you have brains lol.

                                  It says on my instructions that I should take 0.1ml and that 0.1ml = 10 units on the syringe. I'm confused :(
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                                    Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 13 July 2009 15:08 (permalink)
                                    buckeejit


                                    Yesterday I took 0.2ml (where arrow shows). So should I take 0.1ml? (half of the amount I took yday).



                                    No, I said:

                                    PartyBoy

                                    You will shoot this amount (0.1ml) over 4 days. So you need to divide each of these 0.1ml into 4 to get your daily dose ie one quater of 0.1ml.
                                     


                                    In short having seen your barrel. You will shoot 2.5 marks on the barrel per day. I know, it's a very small amount.



                                    buckeejit
                                    It says on my instructions that I should take 0.1ml and that 0.1ml = 10 units on the syringe.



                                    Ignore it. You are taking 2.5 units on the syringe.

                                     

                                     
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                                      Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 13 July 2009 15:10 (permalink)
                                      so 2.5 per day which will be a quarter of 10 units on the syringe?
                                       
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                                        Re:Just got my Melanotan II - Please answer question re: Mixing 13 July 2009 15:10 (permalink)
                                        That's correct.

                                         

                                         
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