cigarettes & alcohol

hi guys
just wondering ur opinions on the impact fags and booze have on our quest for bigger/stronger bodies
i realise they can only be detrimental to progress  but i wonder to what extent?

Quite a severe one I should imagine, both should be avoided

Very rarely drink - can't handle hangovers nowadays 

Having given up smoking after 30 + years, I'm noticing a tremendous diference satmina wise. 

I still have the odd beer and a fewmore whiskeys but not before a heavy session!  I also have the odd cigar but can feel it the next day, everything in moderation I guess!

Smoking is a HUGE no no in my books, quit cold turkey 12 years ago and so glad I did. (2nd attempt mind). Wish I had started on the weights back then.
 
Never really drank, a glass of wine occassionally (every couple of years) ONLY ever been drunk once in all my years (46) can't say I enjoyed it that much and also woke up with me lying on a toilet floor not knowing how I can got there.
 
Ultimately, everything in moderation except when you have a passion in life and you should pursue it right to the end.

Have never smoked used to drink but since giving it up my physique come along tons, has no real place in an athletes life I think!!!

Never been a smoker, even the smell makes me feel ill.
I have been a heavy drinker until 18 months ago, my performance in the gym has improved massively since giving up.

Used to drink quite a lot and smoke a bit when i was younger. For me, smoking and lifting weights is a bad mix, shouldn't do it under any circumstances. As for drinking, a bit now and then is fine. If by drinking you mean going out and getting pissed on a regular basis, then no, it is incompatible with going to the gym. 

Bill45


Used to drink quite a lot and smoke a bit when i was younger. For me, smoking and lifting weights is a bad mix, shouldn't do it under any circumstances. As for drinking, a bit now and then is fine. If by drinking you mean going out and getting pissed on a regular basis, then no, it is incompatible with going to the gym. 

try telling that to arnold swarzenegger.
regular piss head he was.

cheers
subconciously i think i was hoping for a "smoking and drinking never hurt me" response
however common sense prevails
i dont think i can pack up smoking straight away   but  i shall definitely start watching my alcohol  intake and gradually decrease both
thx 4 response  and experience folks

I don't drink but I like a ciggie, I don't smoke many about 5 a day, my doctor said I'm not going to tell you to pack up because 5 a day is nothing. I went for a medical the other week, (work based) resting heart rate was 35, they were shocked because I put down on the sheet that I smoked, they kept asking me are you sure you smoke??

Enjoy life it's to short.

Gave up smoking 2 1/2 years ago, feel one hell of a lot better for it now, have a few beers every weekend to unwind, never enough to get drunk, we only live once so still need a little enjoyment.

Drink is negative on so many levels, not only the huge amount of empty calories, also the immensely negative effect is has on hormones in the body.

Reborn


Drink is negative on so many levels, not only the huge amount of empty calories, also the immensely negative effect is has on hormones in the body.

havnt smoked for neary 3 years, could never eat, since giving up, appetite tons better, as above drink = empty calories, so now instead of a whiskey i have a protien drink before bed, i just cant do the bad things , due to staying clean, that would = a waste of my continued effort..

the negative eefect that alcohol has on hormones has yet to be proven.

infidel


the negative eefect that alcohol has on hormones has yet to be proven.

No it hasn't, that kind of "Bro-science" statement really annoys me.
 
" hormones to function properly, their amount and the timing of their release must be finely coordinated, and the target tissues must be able to respond to them accurately. Alcohol can impair the functions of the hormone-releasing glands and of the target tissues, thereby causing serious medical consequences.

Hormones control four major areas of body function: production, utilization, and storage of energy; reproduction; maintenance of the internal environment (e.g., blood pressure and bone mass); and growth and development"

Reborn

infidel


the negative eefect that alcohol has on hormones has yet to be proven.

No it hasn't, that kind of "Bro-science" statement really annoys me.
 
" hormones to function properly, their amount and the timing of their release must be finely coordinated, and the target tissues must be able to respond to them accurately. Alcohol can impair the functions of the hormone-releasing glands and of the target tissues, thereby causing serious medical consequences.

Hormones control four major areas of body function: production, utilization, and storage of energy; reproduction; maintenance of the internal environment (e.g., blood pressure and bone mass); and growth and development"

thank you for that.
now can you send me the links to the medical findings?
thanks in advance.

infidel

Reborn

infidel


the negative eefect that alcohol has on hormones has yet to be proven.

No it hasn't, that kind of "Bro-science" statement really annoys me.
 
" hormones to function properly, their amount and the timing of their release must be finely coordinated, and the target tissues must be able to respond to them accurately. Alcohol can impair the functions of the hormone-releasing glands and of the target tissues, thereby causing serious medical consequences.

Hormones control four major areas of body function: production, utilization, and storage of energy; reproduction; maintenance of the internal environment (e.g., blood pressure and bone mass); and growth and development"

thank you for that.
now can you send me the links to the medical findings?
thanks in advance.

Talk to a doctor any doctor and do your own google search, you'll turn up a wealth of medical evidence.

Alcohol affects Liver Function in such a way that it struggles to process Estrogen as it normally would leading to elevated levels.

Its well documented and accepted in medical society.

infidel

Bill45


Used to drink quite a lot and smoke a bit when i was younger. For me, smoking and lifting weights is a bad mix, shouldn't do it under any circumstances. As for drinking, a bit now and then is fine. If by drinking you mean going out and getting pissed on a regular basis, then no, it is incompatible with going to the gym. 

try telling that to arnold swarzenegger.
regular piss head he was.

Myth.