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Boogaloo
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Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 30 August 2009 12:08
If I'm having a slow day at work I tend to have a quick nosey at the Mail online and I am getting really angry about some of the articles.  What also gets my goat is how contradictory their articles can be.

For example when Jodie Marsh did a photo shoot showing her new more muscular form she was praised.

http://www.dailymail.co...amour-body-building.html

However now that Jessie Wallace seems to be doing the same she has been absolutely slated.  I think she looks fantastic.  She is clearly someone who has yo yo dieted over the years and now that she seems to have finally got the hang of doing it in a healthy way, she is critisised.

http://www.dailymail.co..****rcise-regime-far.html

http://www.dailymail.co...uces-ample-cleavage.html

There have also been a number of articles about "real women".  This involves putting a slightly curvy although still slim model into outfits that celebs have worn.

It just makes me soooo angry.
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 30 August 2009 12:18
It's true. The mail is especially bad for this but

Negative sells. I work with some celebs and I'm always amazed at how different their lives and personalites (and even body shapes) are compared to the picture we get from the papers.

The Daily Mail will often take completely diametric stances on the very same subject. A good example of this is the difference between the 'facts' on health issues raised in the Irish Daily Mail and the Daily Mail (same company - same paper) because the audience is different.

Papers say what sells. They don't present facts.
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 30 August 2009 13:37
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If I'm having a slow day at work I tend to have a quick nosey at the Mail online and I am getting really angry about some of the articles.  What also gets my goat is how contradictory their articles can be.
 
tis the nature of the beast.
There masses of places online that you could have an nosey at and be informed and entertained rather than enraged. Or maybe you had a subconscious desire to be enraged







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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 30 August 2009 18:23
Don't worry so much about it, the papers work is to "create controversy", wind people up and sell newspapers. There is the example of the funeral of Senator Kennedy being shown live, and some papers slagging him off and claiming he was this, that and the other just to sell papers.
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 31 August 2009 00:28
Notice the negative comments about her smaller bust. Ahem, female breast size is directly related to bodyfat percentage. She has reduced her bf, got fit and improved her diet - yet is still judged on her breasts!

Broad shoulders? They don't suddenly grow in 6 weeks, and if she has gone from a 16 to a 10 she must have been rather broad to start off with.

This is exactly how society becomes ignorant about exercise, then slags off anyone who is fat!
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 31 August 2009 00:36
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-yet is still judged on her breasts! 
Women are always judged on their breasts

Broad shoulders? 
I spose they'd look broader if her waist had gotten smaller....no matter it's 'unfeminine' and as such must be stamped out!!



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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 31 August 2009 08:26
As Jodie Marsh still has gigantic knockers it obviously doesnt matter how the rest of her looks!

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 31 August 2009 13:39
I commented... This really annoyed me...
Morons.

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 31 August 2009 18:14
I suppose that is the one good thing about these articles, the fact that we have the opportunity to reply.

Most of the public who have commented can see how narrow minded the reporter is being.  There are the few odd exceptions, but interestingly most of the negative comments are from women.  Bizarre!
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 31 August 2009 20:36
Just ignor the Daily Mail.  It's an awful paper which thrives on negativity about everything.

If you want to be depressed, then read the Mail.

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 05 September 2009 07:54
The media are well and truely hideous in my opinion, and i feel women/girls everywhere are effected by what they see and read in the papers. I thought it was awful that the media felt the need to plaster natalie cassidy's weight gain across nearly every page! Ive gained weight this yr which is horrid enough without seeing my picture everywhere saying im a moose! what the hell does this tell our youth today (im a youth tody ha).......er......rant over :) xxxx

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 05 September 2009 08:40
Problem is you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. A celeb makes an effort to lose weight or enhance their physique and gets slated for it, they put on weight and they're sent to hell.................probably all written by some ugly fat bint who sits at a computer drinking high street bought latte in a paper cup and eating a blueberry muffin wondering why she can't lose weight herself so the little yellow demon sits on her fingers and makes her type hideous comments.
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 05 September 2009 10:45
HEAR HEAR!!!! I like :)

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 05 September 2009 12:34
Things like these are designed to do one thing, and one thing only. Sell newspapers by any means possible.

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 05 September 2009 12:39
theiopener


 Sell newspapers by any means possible.
who are the consumers of all this trash, at least 50% women surely...dragging us all dwon together





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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 07 September 2009 12:24
The funny pic is Jessie in that last article, and a fat girl next to her with her LATTE!!

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 08 September 2009 05:50
I'll throw my 0.2p's worth into this...

Articles of this type are destructive and vexing! They promote stereotypes and the ignorance of many is further reinforced. As has been mentioned above, Ms Marsh was given a glowing review because she is still seen as cheesecake for obvious reasons.

Ultimately articles of this type are there to shift copies.

My advice, as tough as it is, move on.

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 08 September 2009 19:31
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 08 September 2009 21:04
Caster Semenyer has also been reported to have had a makeover for a French magazine, to make her more feminine. If you read the interview carefully she says she hardly ever gets to wear dresses.
 
Now, why would that be?Because she is a high standard athlete?Spends more time concentrating on training and diet?Heels and frills are not something compatible with being an athlete on an hourly or daily basis. I bet Mr Bolt doesn't hang out in suits and dress shoes every evening. More like trainers and jeans.
 
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 23 September 2009 19:00
I was reading a mag the other day that one of the girls had brought into work. I finished reading this article and I was actually, physically fuming !

As soon as I have a spare 30 minutes I will be emailing in to complain ! Man arms my @rse !




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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 23 September 2009 19:52
I think Sean at mindbodymatters needs a kick up the arse and telling straight. It's no wonder women are frigtened to death of weight training when people who work in the field are scaring them off too. He should know better and how the hell can he say weights of at least 25kg???? Doing what.....lateral raises, deadlifts????? Pointless stating that without the exercise..............I'm bloody livid.
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 23 September 2009 19:56
I spent at least half an hour ranting at work! One was not amused.

I couldn't believe what he was saying, it would have been bad enough reading the article as it was but for that tripe to come from a ' fitness professional ' .. *shakes head*

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 23 September 2009 20:17
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 23 September 2009 23:42
So he is willing to freely put down any woman who shows any sign of training based on his view of how they should look, but its funny that he dosn't put up any pictures of himself on his own personal training website!

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 24 September 2009 10:09
Ach, he works in Fitness First, what do you expect . Probably scared of women with muscle as he's seriously lacking himself ....come on Sean, take the bait and post
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 25 September 2009 20:08
I'll see if I can find a piccie of him, I work for FF... :-D

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 25 September 2009 21:22
Go Flick go ....my comment regarding FF was in no way meant to reflect on you and others who are likeminded and work for FF
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 26 September 2009 16:16
I got an email response:

Hi Flick,


Thank you for your feedback regarding the article.


I assure you I was in no way criticising these women for training with weights and actively encourage all my clients to include resistance exercise in their workouts. However, I still stand by my opinion that there is a difference between 'normal' and 'athletic' fitness. And I do believe that athletes, professional or amateur are less concerned about aesthetics and more with performance - bodybuilding being the exception of course as it is striving for both. To build the muscle mass that the celebrities mentioned in the article have done would necessitate a great deal of training and careful diet. More than the many women who might read the magazine would be likely to have time to do.


Personally I think that the pictures of the women shown - with the exception of Madonna - look great, and indeed Jodie Marsh is now competing as a bodybuilder.


The article's comment regarding periods stopping actually related to marathon runners and exercisers who do excessive cardio but was presumably cut due to space restriction, as was my full comment regarding bicep curls and tricep extensions and the weights used - 25kg was purely speculation, not a recommendation nor a condemnation. Here I continued that I recommend multi-muscle group and whole body exercises such as dips, deadlifts and pull-ups etc. rather than isolation exercises as they save time. Obviously an athlete such as a bodybuilder will use isolation exercises more because she or he will have, or will make, the time to include them in a workout.


Also I would like to point out that I didn't write the article and just gave my opinion on exercises and likely fitness regimes, not on whether I thought they were 'too' muscley.


Any way to get people exercising is surely to be encouraged, hence the suggestion of doing exercises at home without special equipment or gym membership.


Apologies for any offence caused.


Kind regards,


Sean Barnes-Murphy


Lots of comments here, but mainly, I thought Dips were an isolation exercise???
He's basically back-tracking and saying he agrees with strength training and that women shouldn't expect to achieve what the celebs do but that certainly wasn't in the light that the article was printed... :-/

 
P.S No offence taken, I'd work in a mainstream gym any day of the week, sooooo much more equipment and I LOOVEEEEE helping 'normal' people who come in - so fufuilling... :-)
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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 26 September 2009 16:24
the moral of the story is that magazines and the tabloid press are full of shiite!

So whats new?




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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 26 September 2009 16:31
...but that doesnt mean it isnt worthwhile complaining and pointing out the errors.

Good on ya Flick.

and, really...''the muscle mass of the celebrities'', what muscle mass?
 why does everyone have to knock maddona...I think she looks amazing!

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 26 September 2009 16:45
flick161

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He's basically back-tracking and saying he agrees with strength training and that women shouldn't expect to achieve what the celebs do but that certainly wasn't in the light that the article was printed...)
I guess anyone who does any kind of interview with the media can expect what they say to be manipulated so as to portray the angle that the mag wants to take...and the mag is not going to risk alienating it's reader by straying from convention and suggesting that it might be a good thing if women were to exert themselves





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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 26 September 2009 17:47
The magazine got a different email and are yet to get back to me :-D

I'm not much of a one for standing up and being counted but I'm glad I did this time :-)

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 26 September 2009 18:58
Well done Flick ! I'm going to compose my email this weekend

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Re:Daily Mail - such negative female articles. - 03 October 2009 14:04
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Problem is you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. A celeb makes an effort to lose weight or enhance their physique and gets slated for it, they put on weight and they're sent to hell.................probably all written by some ugly fat bint who sits at a computer drinking high street bought latte in a paper cup and eating a blueberry muffin wondering why she can't lose weight herself so the little yellow demon sits on her fingers and makes her type hideous comments.
 

 That is SO true; how often do you read, on one page, that So-and-so has become "worryingly thin," then two pages later, Ms X is slated for "ballooning" (what a cliche...) to a size 10!!! Then, they've got someone else a few pages later trying to persuade us that a size 14 is normal!
We all know that a size 14 can look "big" on one female and slim on another - even two size ten women together can look quite different; one will look bigger than the other, but how can it possibly be right that a woman who "goes up" to a 10 is seen as a pariah? Does it matter what the label says as long as it fits?
As for dress sizes themselves, they seem to have changed out of all dimension - about 30 years ago, a size 8 was 30-20-32, a 10 was 32-22-34, a 12 was 34-24-36, a 14 was 36-26-38 etc.  I used to read my mum's Slimming magazines, and that size 10-12 was seen as ideal. Now the sizing is completely different - a size 8 means a 26" waist, as opposed to the 20" of yesterday. Does that mean that today's proverbial "size Zero" (a four in the UK) was the size 8 of yesterday?
Like Dawn says, it's a no-win situation. I'll stick to the crossword and the funnies!
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