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Unlicenced boxing 03 September 2009 22:50 (permalink)
Anybody done the above?


 
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    Re:Unlicenced boxing 05 September 2009 21:41 (permalink)
    Was seriously thinking about it, there's the European Boxing Federation who run this kind of stuff, all above board apart from the licence thing...I think, anyway its well run etc but you could end up fighting an ex pro etc, anyone can enter up to 50 I think...don't be going to any caravan parks to do it though, some guys just wont go down no matter how hard you hit them lol
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      Re:Unlicenced boxing 06 September 2009 13:34 (permalink)
      had 5 bouts!!  some wierd match ups.  one fight i was outweighed by 4 stone.  make sure you really suss out who your gonna fight, could end up with some right animal! 
       
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        Re:Unlicenced boxing 06 September 2009 18:40 (permalink)
        Where are you mate?
        Have a look at prizeringboxing.com
        Its run by a guy called Alan Mortlock (well known guy around Essex and London).
        Puts on some really good shows and if your honest about experience etc you are going to get a half decent match up. They do have a few ex pros but cater for alot of guys of all levels. Good deal on ticket sales too! + medical cover on the night and a few well known faces thrown in.
        Worth a look bud if your thinking about it
         
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          Re:Unlicenced boxing 06 September 2009 18:42 (permalink)
          As alreaqdy said, loads of my friends do it (Run by EBF) but the mismatches you see are laughable and you often get matched up on the day so have no idea who you are fighting

          You might end up fighting 4-5 stone heavier, or a guy with 60 amateur fights and a pro record as well, when you have had 3 amateur fights or something lol

          My mate also weighed in with a fat white bloke who he was meant to be fighting (dont know why they bother weighing them in as there is no real weight categories) and when he came out to the ring he was met by a ripped black guy lol
           
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            Re:Unlicenced boxing 09 September 2009 23:36 (permalink)
            Sounds dodgier than the amateur circuit then!  How much money is involved, for the fighters?  Is it something you can walk away from without too much aggro?
             
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              Re:Unlicenced boxing 10 September 2009 10:56 (permalink)
              Never fought but been to watch a few real dodgy ones... Some are reffed really badly and have seen people take stamps whilst on the mat..
               
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                Re:Unlicenced boxing 10 September 2009 17:35 (permalink)
                Been too some my mates ex pros fancied it for a laugh but i saw fat over weight fools who puff after not landing the big un and drunks but also ex pros who were very handy and nasty with it,id not do it as its too miss matched and variable

                These were in clubs i hear field fights are on the rise but are for chavs and gypos
                Everyone has been in shape,but not everyone is IN shape,its about where your going not where you have been.
                 
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                  Re:Unlicenced boxing 10 September 2009 17:56 (permalink)
                  Usually paid through a ticket deal, you get £5-10 from each ticket you sell (£25-30 a ticket), at least that seems to be the score at the EBF ones up here in Newcastle

                  Some lads get a purse for £200-300 as well/instead of a ticket deal

                  Like Brucie said, some ex pros do it for a laugh/some extra beer money and take the piss out of their opponents..Not uncommon at all
                   
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                    Re:Unlicenced boxing 10 September 2009 20:27 (permalink)
                    Guess i've been lucky by the sound of it!
                    I can only speak as I have found but i'm sure there are some slighty more dodgy organisations out there.
                    Trouble is - what are our options?
                    I'm 38 - too old for the amateurs and BBBofC would never issue a license at this age (only ever boxed as amateur but got fed up with opposition not turning up) so options are;
                    • Unlicensed - with the 'risks' mentioned above or,
                    • White collar - but why knock your pan out training when the best you can hope for is a draw (TRFC - its about taking part...) I would rather lose but know why than hammer a guy a get the draw.
                    There are some other white collar organisations about but I have seen ex pros and good amateurs boxing on them and hammering the opposition so I guess the risk is there whatever. These guys boxing on these shows is no different to a juiced up, synthol filled bodybuilder entering a drug free contest - what have they actually achieved?
                    I'm sure there is a massive opportunity as a promoter here to set up an honest, equal organisation that gives 'joe public' the opportunity to fight fairly with a like for like opponent.
                    Any takers..........................
                     
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                      Re:Unlicenced boxing 12 September 2009 12:44 (permalink)
                      elmo


                      Guess i've been lucky by the sound of it!
                      I can only speak as I have found but i'm sure there are some slighty more dodgy organisations out there.
                      Trouble is - what are our options?
                      I'm 38 - too old for the amateurs and BBBofC would never issue a license at this age (only ever boxed as amateur but got fed up with opposition not turning up) so options are;
                      • Unlicensed - with the 'risks' mentioned above or,
                      • White collar - but why knock your pan out training when the best you can hope for is a draw (TRFC - its about taking part...) I would rather lose but know why than hammer a guy a get the draw.
                      There are some other white collar organisations about but I have seen ex pros and good amateurs boxing on them and hammering the opposition so I guess the risk is there whatever. These guys boxing on these shows is no different to a juiced up, synthol filled bodybuilder entering a drug free contest - what have they actually achieved?
                      I'm sure there is a massive opportunity as a promoter here to set up an honest, equal organisation that gives 'joe public' the opportunity to fight fairly with a like for like opponent.
                      Any takers..........................


                      Just to pick up a point, I boxed amateur but I'm still technically unboxed as I never had a single opponent turn up in two years of holding a licence in 3 years of training.  Also spectated a lot of amateur events and it was almost like the results were pre-determined; no matter how the fight went, it was like the judges had already agreed a winner beforehand.  People would get knocked all over the place and win!  Also got tricked into attending for a fight at Kendal town hall, when we turned up, we were basically told "too many had turned up" so they were going to reorganise the fighters and match it up there and then.  Turns out it was basically to put on a show for fat, local business men and they matched up complete novices with people who'd won 8-9 fights.  I was matched up as unboxed with a lad heavier than me and with 5 or something wons on his card!  Farce.  Thankfully my trainer took us all (there was two adults and 3 or 4 kids fighting) and took us all home, pulled us out the comp.
                       Everyone seems to be in everyone elses pocket.

                      I'm 25 now and just been back boxing a fortnight and it feels good.
                       
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                        Re:Unlicenced boxing 12 September 2009 13:14 (permalink)
                        Its a heartbreaker mate - it's not like you are fighting for a world
                        championship but that does not stop you from stressing yourself out re the result (and everthing else) only for the other guy not to turn up or to find as you said, that it was going to be unlikley you would have got a bout in the first place! That ultimately why I stopped. Best thing I did however was to get back into training. Not sure where to go from here re unlicensed or even white collar (I have actually found a couple of places locally who offer 'real' bouts) but at least I'm sorting my life out again - worst case scenario I will get back in shape - we all know what boxing training can do
                         
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                          Re:Unlicenced boxing 13 September 2009 05:12 (permalink)
                          have to say ive won a few amature bouts when i blatantly lost.  just cos it was our club who organised it.  i rem one fight i got put on my ass twice and i still won.  i was almost embarrased when they raised my hand.  but equally ive lost a few i should have won.  fight game is dodgy and always will be
                           
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                            Re:Unlicenced boxing 14 September 2009 19:51 (permalink)
                            happend to me on numeros
                            occasions, shouldve lost but didnt
                             
                            also had a few laughable ones go
                            against me aswell, depends on the judges i suppose
                            odog


                            have to say ive won a few amature bouts when i blatantly lost.  just cos it was our club who organised it.  i rem one fight i got put on my ass twice and i still won.  i was almost embarrased when they raised my hand.  but equally ive lost a few i should have won.  fight game is dodgy and always will be


                             
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                              Re:Unlicenced boxing 15 September 2009 15:47 (permalink)
                              Fought 3 times under 'un licensed', more like white collar though.
                              Only one has been dodgy so far, my last fight in a caravan park near blackpool that resembled a wild west ranch.
                              My opponent was getting bigger as i was driving down the motorway.
                              Got a decent lift out of it for 6 minutes work though (3 x 2's) but he was a big bugger. had 2 stone on me I'd say.
                              Got the decision anyway.
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                                Re:Unlicenced boxing 19 September 2009 14:35 (permalink)
                                I boxed on 3 of them in 1996, I done a ticket deal, I got half the money of the tickets I sold,  earnt £3,000 a fight, 4 rounders, luvvly jubbly
                                 
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                                  Re:Unlicenced boxing 04 October 2009 22:23 (permalink)
                                  Are the crowds generally well behaved?

                                  Ive never been to one but a friend has a bout in 3 weeks time. Its in London.
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                                    Re:Unlicenced boxing 04 October 2009 22:46 (permalink)
                                    crowds are never well behaved at any fight!! unless its top draw!  beer and fighting not good combo!!
                                     
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                                      Re:Unlicenced boxing 25 October 2009 23:15 (permalink)
                                      i would love too watch some proper matches  the only ones iv heared of are 150+ miles south  in edinbugh or glasgow but  i dont drive yet we get fights up here but there all borring -contact fights but to many rules-  any one know any north scotland  bouts pls PM ! ta
                                       
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                                        Re:Unlicenced boxing 25 October 2009 23:25 (permalink)
                                        odog  RE:  beer and fighting not good combo!!
                                        depends if ur fighting someone beer'd up lol  pls inbox me scottish fight dates and where be fighting not for myself just now coz iv still got the pretty boy look going on (and enjoying it :D )but would be sound to watch a proper bout no rules btw anyone fighting wishing u all the best stick n move lmao hahahahaahahaha
                                         
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