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Re:Time To Grow 30 September 2009 15:02 (permalink)
Thats it mate back on track i see ,i will pop in now and then, hope all goes well.
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    Re:Time To Grow 30 September 2009 15:36 (permalink)
    @Val, very good post mate thanks for that.  I was just mad at only getting 4 reps out.  The feeling only lasted until I went to the flat DB press and when I got the first set of 8 with 35kg's I was fine and the rest of the session went well. 

    @Forddee, things are going well cheers mate.  Hope you are good too?
     
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      Re:Time To Grow 01 October 2009 08:40 (permalink)
      Had a quick word with Paul last night. My waist seems to be just exploding, and while I don't mind putting a bit on, it's starting to get a bit daft. Every other part of me is growing nicely, but the section of fat belly my navel is getting stupid. Wonder if this is anything to do with insulin response due to being a fatty?

      DOMS are here big time in chest and even got some in bi's todays, so my dummy out antics yesterday in the gym weren't called for lol.
       
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        Re:Time To Grow 01 October 2009 09:06 (permalink)
        Valhalla

        Can you hark back to a time when you were in the gym and you were on fire? not literally,


        Excellent post by Valhalla but I kinda sorta can't help wanting to be literally on fire in the gym
        ...that would be so cool hot.
        "I am the God of Hell-fire and I am here to feel the burn. Out of my way puny mortals."


        What advice did you get re the expanding waistline?
        Is this perception based on fact (i.e. tightening of troozers) or just your opinion?
        I'd think this was always going to be a tricky time for you. You're just coming down off a PCT, you have recently made a sterling effort to get in shape for the hols but now any goals seem a bit distant. Would it help to focus on some short term goal such as achieving a certain weight or to increase your chest/bicep size by Xamount? I think a good training partner is invaluable at this point to help motivate you through the not-so-good work.
        I will volunteer to race you to something if that might help.



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          Re:Time To Grow 01 October 2009 09:24 (permalink)
          Paul is having a hectic time in New York at the mo but is going to have a look at things over the weekend.

          Sad to say it's Fact mate, my jeans that were slightly tight last week were litrally busting at the button last night.  Muffin tops ahoy!
          As for goals, I just wanted to add some mass, although in the right places.  It's just a mine-field when I start eating more cals as the waist just gets bigger, but surely there's a way to get round this???

          My training partner is a little hit and miss atm as a change to his shifts and I train EOD now.

          Not sure what we could race to mate
           
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            Re:Time To Grow 01 October 2009 09:41 (permalink)
            Hi Rack,

            I was under the impression your weight was stable?

            Are carbs riding high? I look night and day when flitting between high carb and lower carb days. I could have a few large carb meals and smooth over badly and test the worksmanship of my work trousers button. However, I could up my fat intake and lower my CHO intake for a few days and my stomach would flatten out immensly and a few cheeky lines would come out.

            for me it is nothing more than a physiological response to CHO intake.  

            You may be finding that all the extra food is bloating you out a little more than expected?


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              Re:Time To Grow 01 October 2009 09:46 (permalink)
              This is the puzzel mate, my weight is and has been bang on 15st 10lb since coming back from holiday.  The diet is static, carbs aren't that high and the only variation is 2 treats on a sunday.

              Really not sure how or why my body is acting this way.  As said, every where else is growing nicely and I like how much bigger I'm looking but there has to be a way of doing this without having my waist grow at an expedential rate to everything else.
               
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                Re:Time To Grow 01 October 2009 16:12 (permalink)
                I was going through a similar thing Rack so I know how you're feeling. A bit of fat is ok, you can live with it because you still look big and have a V shape. It's when that fat gets out of hand and the V starts to change to a U, that when the self-conciousness comes in and starts pecking your head. I put up with this for a long time before deciding I would strip it all off once and for all, I am on my way now but still much to do. At the moment all is good but I know that the in-between phase will have me feeling very small and then we have the opposite problem. I will get through it though because of the reward at the end.

                What I am trying to say here mate is that you have a goal and need to stick to it through the sh!t times, you have proved you can lose the fat, so bulk up, get some quality muscle added and then cut back for 3 months for a better physique than you have ever had. Enjoy your strength start to increase as you gain weight and focus your attention to your increasing shoulders, arms, chest & legs. It may be temporary that you gain fat around the mid section and if / when it subsides you will feel better.

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                  Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 08:44 (permalink)
                  Very good post there tuffy.  I can live with the U for a bit but surely there must me a way of stopping my waist growing/exploding at this  rate?  Should be speaking to Paul at the weekend so will see what he has to say.

                  Will be training back/rear delts and traps/calfs later on. And I'm determined not to whine about DL's
                   
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                    Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 11:26 (permalink)
                    Getting really p1ssed off now.  For the last week I've felt dead on my feet.  Got hardly any energy throughout the day and am like a 3 toed sloth on a keto diet!
                    Haven't got a clue why,  I'm eating and sleeping more than ever but just can't wake up????

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                      Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 11:30 (permalink)
                      Chuck some eph or caffeine down the hatch

                       
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                        Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 11:32 (permalink)
                        Necking black coffee like it's out of fashion mate.  Trying to stay off and PED at the min, only thing I'm taking is a small does of Proviron to get my sex drive back.
                         
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                          Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 11:34 (permalink)
                          You sure you dont have flu mate? may not be showing symptoms but could be there.

                           
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                            Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 11:37 (permalink)
                            Have you measured across your navel with a tape measure?

                            Thought about changing up your cardio a little?
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                              Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 11:41 (permalink)
                              @ballbag, no other symptoms of flu at all mate.

                              @Valhalla, waist is around 39-40in mate, so grown about 5in in 8 weeks.
                              I'll speak to Paul about the cardio, only thing I'm doing at the min is walking the dog.
                               
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                                Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 13:54 (permalink)
                                5" in 8 weeks.

                                0.625 inch increase per week and no weight fluctuation. What strange work lurks here?

                                It has been said that a well hydrated man between 8 and 15% bodyfat, 1 inch gained or lost around the waist is equal to 3-5lbs of fat.




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                                  Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 14:03 (permalink)
                                  Hence why I'm stumped my friend?????  I'm still sure it's down to my insulin response but I'll have to do a lot more reading on this.  My waist was 35in when I went on holiday, came back a stone heavier and waist was 36.5in, now weight is stable and ~40in so I really have no idea??

                                  Onto trainin;
                                  (read in thick yorkshire accent) FOOOOOOKIN REIGHT SESSION!

                                  Back/Rear delts and traps and calf’s:
                                  Wide grip pull downs - Pg15 x8,8, P16x5 Pg12xfailure (up weight)
                                  Bent over BB row - 80kgx10,10,10,10 (up reps)
                                  Partial dead lifts - 120kgx8,8,8,8 (up 10kg)
                                  Close grip pull downs – Pg13x10,10,10 (up weight and reps)

                                  Bent over DB raise - 15kgx10,10,10,10 (up reps)
                                  Reverse peck deck - 50kgx8,8,8, (up 5kg)
                                  Seated DB shrugs - 35kgx10,10,10,10,10,10 (up weight and reps)

                                  Standing Calf raise Pg15x20,20,20,20,20 (up weight)

                                  Happy with today's session and managed to turn my frown upside down! Might drop weight on the Bent over raises though as form is a little jerky and is looking more like a bent over shrug.
                                  DL's were a lot easier now I'm making sure my feet are well under the bar.
                                   
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                                    Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 18:25 (permalink)
                                    There was a lad running down Moorgate this aft the double of you, come on it was wasn't it?
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                                      Re:Time To Grow 02 October 2009 19:42 (permalink)
                                      Wasn't me mate, I don't do running lol
                                       
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                                        Re:Time To Grow 04 October 2009 19:15 (permalink)
                                        Shoulders/Triceps:
                                        Seated smith press 75kgx8,8,7,6 (up weight 15kg)
                                        Seated Side laterals 12.5kgx8,8,8,8 (up 2.5kg)
                                        Seated DB press 25kgx8,8,8,4 (up weight 2.5kg)
                                        Standing front raise with a straight bar 20kgx10,10,10 (same)

                                        Straight bar cable press-down 75kgx10,10,10
                                        Skull crushers 35kg (not inc bar)x8,8,8 (up weight)
                                        Between bench dips BW+20kg DBx10,10,10 (up weight)

                                        Yet again I've trained on the sabath, and for once the dummy stayed in. I actually got quite a nice shock. I thought last week I started with 70kg on the smith press, it was actually 60kg so added 15kg on it and only dropped a few reps on the last set. Weights were up and I'm well pleased with it. Elbow teaked a touch on the last set of db presses and I felt it more on the skulls so am going to drop the weight down on these again and go for form.
                                         
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