Product Log: Super Halo (Halodrol) - PCT started 5/11/09 - AFTER PICS PAGE 9

James M


Thats some session mate, as for your sleep how is it sleep off cycle?

Thanks James.
 
Sleep off cycle normally isn't too bad, don't get me wrong, I have my nights when I can't get off for an hour or 2, but nothing like I have experienced on this cycle.

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Cheers Smooth.
Lol, Iceman just asked me the same thing actually :-) I just find that 4 sets is enough for bi's and tri's personally.... I've not been going super heavy on bi's though due to tendon problems in my forearms (from using the EZ bar).
I will put them up gradually though.

How's PCT going man?

I had exactly the same problem. (tennis and golfers elbow) couldn't train bis for nearly a year, I got around this by doing negative grip back exercises, so putting emphasis on the bis. I started taking cissus and it really helped a lot. I now find that I can train bis again.

The trick is to manage the injury, use lifting straps on back days and stay clear of preacher curls and the EZ bar. Also stretch the forearms out 4 times a day at as many angles as you can think of.


PCT is going well, only lost 1lb of weight after 2 weeks and bf is still at 9% (ish)

Thanks for the tips mate. It is getting better by just not using the EZ bar. The EZ bar has become the bain of my existance! lol.
 
I always use straps on back day for deads, rows etc... but will try the stretches out too see if it helps, cheers.
 
Nice one on PCT as well, 1lb is f*ck all, so you must be very happy with that.
 
I posted a comment on your log too. Nice pics mate.
 

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Thats some session mate, as for your sleep how is it sleep off cycle?

Thanks James.
 
Sleep off cycle normally isn't too bad, don't get me wrong, I have my nights when I can't get off for an hour or 2, but nothing like I have experienced on this cycle.

At least you should be back to normal in a few days, I have trouble getting off at times and find Nytol helps.

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Nice session skull as usual, heavy as shi* lol

LMAO at you mis-counting happens to me to mate lol

Looking foward to your evaluation mate.

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Cheers Smooth.
Lol, Iceman just asked me the same thing actually :-) I just find that 4 sets is enough for bi's and tri's personally.... I've not been going super heavy on bi's though due to tendon problems in my forearms (from using the EZ bar).
I will put them up gradually though.

How's PCT going man?

I had exactly the same problem. (tennis and golfers elbow) couldn't train bis for nearly a year, I got around this by doing negative grip back exercises, so putting emphasis on the bis. I started taking cissus and it really helped a lot. I now find that I can train bis again.

The trick is to manage the injury, use lifting straps on back days and stay clear of preacher curls and the EZ bar. Also stretch the forearms out 4 times a day at as many angles as you can think of.


PCT is going well, only lost 1lb of weight after 2 weeks and bf is still at 9% (ish)

Thanks for the tips mate. It is getting better by just not using the EZ bar. The EZ bar has become the bain of my existance! lol.
 
I always use straps on back day for deads, rows etc... but will try the stretches out too see if it helps, cheers.
 
Nice one on PCT as well, 1lb is f*ck all, so you must be very happy with that.
 
I posted a comment on your log too. Nice pics mate.
 

 

Compression wrapping helps as well. Wrap the forearms up with a bandage or ideally an elasticated wrap, the compression takes the tension off the tendons caused by tight muscles, this will allow them too heal. I used to wrap them before bed, that way it would stay on over night. Be careful not too wrap too tight as you'll wake up in the middle of the night with no feeling in your arms. And not being able to move your hands and trying to undo bandages is not funny lol

Otherwise a Physio session is a great idea, but costs money.

2nd cycle - Cynostane/Bold

Iceman - Thanks mate.... yea it is easy to miscount, esp after 6 weeks lol.

James M - I've just ordered some melatonin, I hope it works.

Smooth - Thanks for the advice mate, I will bear that in mind if they keep my giving me trouble.

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Not heard of melatonin, let me know how you get on mate as I'd like to stop using nytol as it makes you groggy in the morning.

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Day 41

Still not sleeping much at all, I think it has become more of a mental thing now, as I am worrying before I actually go to bed.

Regardless, I still went to the gym, although did not feel like it I must admit!

Chest and Abs

Incline BB Press - Set 1 = 85kg 6 reps / Set 2 = 85kg 6 reps

Flat DB press - Set 1 = 40kg DB's 8 reps / Set 2 = 40kg DB's 8 reps

Decline BB Press - Set 1 = 90kg 7 reps / Set 2 = 90kg 7 reps

Pec Deck - Set 1 = 70kg 14 reps / 75kg = 12 reps

Abs = decline weighted crunches and leg raises

Did ok considering the lack of sleep I have had this week. Not my best session, but certainly not my worst.

I would normally train back tonight, but as I am still not sleeping well, I am gonna give tonight a miss and go in the morning instead, as I don't think heavy deadlifting is the best idea whilst I'm feeling so tired, I just hope to god that I get a good nights rest tonight.

Today is also last day of cycle, and I must admit, I do not feel any shut down (I know you dont have to feel it to be shut down, but you get what I mean), sex drive still high, no testicular atrophy, so that is good I guess.

I still have a bottle of Novadex XT that I was tempted to use instead of the Nolva... but then again, I already have the Nolva, so may as well use it eh? What do you guys think? Could use both but prob a bit overkill for just Hdrol.

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Not heard of melatonin, let me know how you get on mate as I'd like to stop using nytol as it makes you groggy in the morning.

Will do mate. It is supposed to be good, a few guys on MT mentioned it to me previously.
Do a quick google search on it dude, some interesting info.

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Yeah melantonin can help. The effect wear off the more you use it though.

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Smooth - nice tips on forearms, i think ill starting stretching them and drop ez preachers.

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Day 43 - Last day of Cycle

Had one more tab left over, that is why it has strectched over to 43 days.
Did not train on Friday as was too tired from the lack of sleep.

Sleep has been fine since Friday night though! Typical as I don't have to be at work!

Back

Deadlifts - Set 1 = 210kg 5 reps / 220kg = 0 (Went for it but just couldn't get it up there! / Set 3 = 200kg 4 reps (only got 4 out because I had just tried for 220 and it wiped me!)

Pull Ups - Couldn't use my weighted belt, as I used a differnet pull up station, and the weight knocks into it. Set 1 = BW 10 / Set 2 = Bw 10 / Set 3 = BW 10 / Set 4 = BW 10

DB Rows - Set 1 = 44kg DB's 10 reps / Set 2 = 44kg DB's 10 reps

Low Row - Set 1 = 80kg 12 reps / Set 2 = 85 kg 10 reps

Lat Pull Downs (under arm grip) - Set 1 = 70kg 10 reps / Set 2 70kg 10 reps


Was still feeling tired from my lack of sleep through the week! so not surprised that I didnt get my PB on deadlift!

Gonna do an evaluation with after pics, so watch this space.

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Evaluation

During my 6 weeks on Hdrol, I experienced some modest strength gains on certain exercises, as follows;

Deadlift = + 15kg

Squat = + 20kg

Incline BP = + 10kg

I was after more of a recomp effect, so stayed at around maintenance cals throughout.
My weight has fluctuated throughout the cycle though, I went down to 14.8 stone, but thought I might be loosing weight too quickly so I slightly upped the cals.

Start weight = 14.10 stone

End Weight - 14.12 stone (+2 lbs)

Regarding measurements, I have lost half an inch on the waist, and gained 1 inch on chest/lats. Everything else has stayed the same.
I am slightly dis-appointed with this, but I do feel that I look leaner than before cycle.
I dont know what my BF is, I would guess it is around 14%, and I have lost some BF for sure.

Sides

Apart from the sleep probs (which I put down to the 11-test) sides where minimal to say the least.
BP did go up, but that is to be expected with any steroid cycle.
Had no hairloss (which I am predispositioned to), hardly any back pumps.

I also do not feel shut down at all, sex drive is still the same, no testicular atrophy, so I guess that is a good sign.

PCT  is Nolva at 40mg days 1 - 10, 20mg days 11 - 21.
I will also be using Creatine and tribulus.

I will post up pics soon.

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I know you weren't after strength gains, but.... +20kg onto your squat and you feel disappointed! Crikey

With the net gains being somewhat 'low', you may find that they're also far easier to keep once PCT is finished.

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Look in great shape buddy

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I know you weren't after strength gains, but.... +20kg onto your squat and you feel disappointed! Crikey

With the net gains being somewhat 'low', you may find that they're also far easier to keep once PCT is finished.

Oh I'm not disappointed with the strength gains dude, I just thought I would get more in lean gains / BF decrease, but overall it wasn't a bad cycle.
Yeah I expect the gains will be pretty easy to keep from this.

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Look in great shape buddy

Thanks James, appreciate your support mate.

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Good gains and review mate, looking in tip top shape.

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Icemansoldier


Good gains and review mate, looking in tip top shape.

Thank you Ice
Just wanna drop some more BF before I join you and AWG on the dark side lol.

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Yeah sounds cool mate, good luck.

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PCT - DAY 6

Sorry no updates for the last couple days.

Trained shoulders and tri's Monday, and Legs and Bi's Tues.

I won't bother posting numbers throughout PCT, but both sessions where good with no increase or decrese in numbers.

The only thing I changed is to do ass to grass squats instead of parralel. I had to knock the weight down (obviously lol), so knocked it down to 110kg. I've recently been doing 180kg parralell, so quite a difference, but I felt it a lot more the day after (and even now) so will keep going on that one.

PCT is going well. still on 40mg Nolva with no sides *touch wood*.
Also using Creapure, Tribulus, Beta Alanine.

Still not sleeping well, I've got some more meds from the doc, but don't wanna keep using them.
I have some Melatonin on order which should be here in the next couple of days, so hope that will help.

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PCT DAY 7

Trained Chest/Abs last night. I actually felt a bit stonger on certain excerises weirdly enough!
Still on 40mg Nolva until day 11 when I will knock down to 20mg.

Will be training Back tonight, so will make note of any deadlift PB's if I manage to get them!

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Nice job in pct mate, as long as your maintaining thats good.

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Thanks Ice.

PCT DAY 8
 
Trained Back last night and went and got a new PB... 220kg Deadlift woo hoo!!
Tried 220 last week and could hardly lift the f*cker off the ground, but managed to almost get 2 reps out. On the 2nd rep, I just couldn't lock out, and my legs started shaking like a ****ting dog lol, but I'm happy.

I'm feeling it in my back today, and I will aim to get 2-3 reps out next week.

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Great PB dude!!

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PCT DAY 11

Just to update, PCT is going great, sleeping better now as well (thanks to melatonin), and I am still increasing strength which I am pleasantly surprised at!

My aim now is to drop some more BF from now through to the begining of the year, then maybe do a natural clean bulking phase, then either do a test/dbol cycle, or maybe another DS stack, I'm thinking more of the former though.

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Yes tooooo mate 220kg deadlift, thats major!

Great to see your strength is increasing, great work mate, keep it up!

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PCT DAY 15

Still going strong in PCT, although last night I trained chest (on my own) and I felt pretty tired/lethargic, but I put this down to a busy day at work and the FREEZING cold weather lol.

BF seems to coming down bit by bit, once it is where I want it to be, I will start a test Dbol or test Sdrol cycle (not decided as yet) in the new year.

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Still going strong, good job mate. SD/Test is the best option ;) lol

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Ha ha... well Iceman you would say that
It will be one or the other though, but I guess the main gains will come from the test eh! Can't wait to do it actually lol.

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Hahaha true :D

Wouldnt be too bad if you tried dbol, would be interesting to see how you rate SD compared to Dbol.

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Just had to post up, trained back tonight, got some PB's.
Managed 210kg for 6 reps, and 220kg for 2 reps so still getting stronger, which is good!

I also used the 46kg DB's for one arms rows, which where fairly easy TBH, and the DB's only go to 50kg at my gym, so won't be long before I'm busting out those bad boys.

Gonna go for a swim and a bit of cardio tomorrow.

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Getting stronger hmm, very nice, it shows your blood sweat and tears is worth it ;)

46kg for rows = easy LOL.......your just a strong fooker mate!

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Great stuff mate!

I managed to forget all your deadlifting advice tonight, always next week lol

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Icemansoldier


Getting stronger hmm, very nice, it shows your blood sweat and tears is worth it ;)

46kg for rows = easy LOL.......your just a strong fooker mate!

haha.. thanks man. Yeah I'm pleased with the progress through PCT, I've actually had strength increases on a few exercises now. Only prob is over xmas, I wont have a spotter so won't be able to push myself quite so much :-(

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Great stuff mate!

I managed to forget all your deadlifting advice tonight, always next week lol

Haha.. no worries pal. Just give it a go at some stage, maybe better when you're more comfortable with the exercise anyhow?

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Great stuff mate!

I managed to forget all your deadlifting advice tonight, always next week lol

Haha.. no worries pal. Just give it a go at some stage, maybe better when you're more comfortable with the exercise anyhow?

Up until yesterday I was and I was going up in weight quite well but I think I've hit that stage where it will be smaller increments now.

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