Bulk or cut on a DS/PH


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tangerines

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Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 29 October 2009 14:27 (permalink)
I'm 185lbs at about 20-25% BF.  I've done an epi cycle before which put a nice 10lbs on me.
 
I'm in 2 minds as to what to do now, either 
 
1) bulk on SD then cut next year or
2) cut on Hdrol now for 6 weeks then continue the cut until I get down to about 15% then bulk up after that.
 
I'd like to get bigger but I'm not happy with the fat i'm carrying especially around the handles.
 
Any opinions on what way would be most successful?
 
Cheers.
 
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    thekingofleon7

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    Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 29 October 2009 15:26 (permalink)
    How do you see yourself after the next cycle? Imagine how you will look.

    If you see yourself with less fat, then cut... if you see yourself bit bigger with possibly more fat, then Bulk.

    Alternatively, WinterBulk, then cut intime for the summer... Or cut down a bit now, then cutdown even more for summer.?
    Aug 2006: 165lbs
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    Current Goal: 210lbs - 10% BF
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      Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 29 October 2009 15:27 (permalink)
      if your not happy then sort out a cut - assisted or not then luk forward.
      look good naked :D
       
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        ramtillidie

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        Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 29 October 2009 19:07 (permalink)
            Bulk now as it's colder, wearing more clothes and people won't notice a little extra body fat. Cut around March ready for summer.
         
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          Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 29 October 2009 20:03 (permalink)
          I'd say in view of your bodyfat use the Hdrol to drop some fat and increase muscularity. You'l preserve and likely still gain some lean muscle too.
           
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            Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 30 October 2009 11:39 (permalink)
            I'd say bulk on SD first mate, the extra muscle you gain on that will make the cutting easier next year.
             
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              Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 30 October 2009 13:55 (permalink)
              Its up to you mate, if your unhappy and look in the mirror all the time and think god im carrying to much fat, then cut. If your not too bothered then bulk.

              Also since your a high bf% maybe cut for a few weeks prior to your 6 week hdrol.

              SD will also add alot of weight your looking at 15-20lbs, alot of mass and strength too.
               
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                Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 30 October 2009 13:56 (permalink)
                Ok so if you guys suggest a bulk at around 25% bodyfat, arent the gains of lean muscle going to be pretty damn hard to keep hold of on an extreme cut even using a ph/ds? I mean easthetically/motivationally wouldnt 185lbs at say 15-17% bodyfat look/feel better than 200lbs mass with 25%+ bodyfat? Personally i'd go down to lower bodyfat then hit the bulk.
                 
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                  Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 30 October 2009 22:07 (permalink)
                  i'd go for option 2 personally.

                  If you're happy with being 'chunky' though; then either option is a possibility. 

                  I think it'd be worthwhile losing some weight and then using a steroid as a 'rebound'.  That should see you grow nicely.  The new muscle will also be more apparant due to lower BF levels
                   
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                    Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 30 October 2009 22:20 (permalink)
                    Daari


                    i'd go for option 2 personally.

                    If you're happy with being 'chunky' though; then either option is a possibility. 

                    I think it'd be worthwhile losing some weight and then using a steroid as a 'rebound'.  That should see you grow nicely.  The new muscle will also be more apparant due to lower BF levels


                    Exactly!
                     
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                      Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 31 October 2009 10:59 (permalink)
                      You guys have got me rethinking my plan now.  I was going to bulk then cut (currently 20% BF) but I think I'll cut first.

                      To the OP ignore what I said before, if you'd paid any attention...
                       
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                        Re:Bulk or cut on a DS/PH 01 November 2009 10:29 (permalink)
                        I love it when a plan comes together! 
                         
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